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Post by bleddccfc on Feb 22, 2019 15:56:01 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Feb 22, 2019 16:29:32 GMT
Surprise surprise. Probably with a reduced capacity for safety reasons. I do hope the FAW have used this issue to their favour to try and get as many red wall members in as possible. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Feb 22, 2019 18:11:02 GMT
It’s not just the ground that’s not suitable though it’s the whole poxy town that’s now totally inadequate. Not a bed any where near the place FFS. Can you honestly imagine England putting up with this....  |
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Post by manulike on Feb 22, 2019 18:34:20 GMT
Looks to me that the HNS has finally bitten the bullet and followed in the footsteps of their brethren from the FSS... If they managed to get Belgrade passed, then Osijek will pass as well. I imagine that the secretary is looking up the words " cadeau gratuit" and printing them on the brown envelope as we speak ;-( If the FAW manage to get anything more than the compulsory 900 allocation, I will be amazed.
As far as what I can tell from www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/osi/arrivals ... OSIJEK INTERNATIONAL airport has ONLY FOUR International arrival flights all week. On Mondays and Fridays (Wizzair from Basel) ; Tuesdays and Sundays on Eurowings from Stuttgart.
A sad day for football
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Post by manulike on Feb 22, 2019 21:13:02 GMT
Took the beeb a wee while to catch on ... I actually think that the WoL have stopped reading our forum ;-(
"The decision is expected to follow by the end of the week," a Uefa spokesman said.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47339048 |
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Post by latchyrhos on Feb 22, 2019 21:29:56 GMT
Also fair to say that if it is moved from Osijek because the FAW objected to the venue, after announcing it as the venue on their website, those who have paid for flights and hotel in Osijek would surely be entitled to claim back their losses from the FAW
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Post by bleddccfc on Feb 22, 2019 22:49:06 GMT
100% agree on the reduced capacity claim. It's going to be an absolute disaster for most Wales fans, this.
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Post by manulike on Feb 23, 2019 17:58:49 GMT
Osijek only has a single "international" flight on four mid-week days. That is not daily ...
Article 26 Venues and kick-off times
26.01 By 1 March 2018, the associations must submit a list of proposed stadiums to the
UEFA administration for preliminary approval for both the 2018/19 UEFA Nations
League and the 2018-20 European Qualifiers.
26.02 The host association selects the venue for each match from the corresponding list
of proposed stadiums and announces it to the UEFA administration at least 120
days before the match in question.
26.03 When fixing a venue, the host association must take into account the length of
the journey to be undertaken by the visiting team. In principle, the venue for a
match must be no more than a 90-minute bus drive from the nearest
international airport with daily flights from/to other European cities.
26.04 Any objection by a visiting association regarding a selected venue must be
communicated to the UEFA administration, with the host association in copy,
within three days of the venue being confirmed by UEFA. The UEFA administration
will take a final decision, confirming the venue or requesting that the host
association propose another in accordance with these regulations.
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 23, 2019 19:24:31 GMT
If that’s the case, why hasn’t this been put to bed already?
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Post by latchyrhos on Feb 23, 2019 19:51:26 GMT
We played there in October 2012 in a qualifier as did Azerbaijan in October 2014
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Feb 23, 2019 19:55:47 GMT
Getting a ticket was tight but with this shite and possible reduced capacity etc makes it worse. Looks like Zagreb for the game in a pub 😡😡😡
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Post by manulike on Feb 23, 2019 21:32:31 GMT
We played there in October 2012 in a qualifier as did Azerbaijan in October 2014 The problem with the airport is only recent, as Ryan Air used to have daily flights out of there up until April 2017 ... In Summer 2018 they came back with a twice a week Summer flight to Frankfurt, but that also got dropped ...
I imagine that the stadium is in total disrepair, as the brand new Bordeaux look-alike is very near to completion...
That said, it can't be any worse than the away end of the Belgrade stadium ...
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Post by steveh on Feb 23, 2019 21:36:45 GMT
Also fair to say that if it is moved from Osijek because the FAW objected to the venue, after announcing it as the venue on their website, those who have paid for flights and hotel in Osijek would surely be entitled to claim back their losses from the FAW We booked flights to Osijek after the announcement and will be all over the FAW for compensation if the venue changes! |
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Post by latchyrhos on Feb 23, 2019 23:59:15 GMT
Same here, only saving grace would be if they moved it to split, as we fly via split so wouldn't be the end of the world then.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Feb 24, 2019 6:30:48 GMT
This trip is getting worse .. my connection flight to Zagreb has now been changed. Flying with eurowings. With this and unlikely to get a ticket and in a different stadium ... fuck it seems to come to mind
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Post by rees73 on Feb 24, 2019 11:15:12 GMT
This trip is getting worse .. my connection flight to Zagreb has now been changed. Flying with eurowings. With this and unlikely to get a ticket and in a different stadium ... fuck it seems to come to mind Just seen that the flights have been changed, luckily saw your post. Might have to look at different flights now 🤔 |
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Post by Gary Williams on Feb 24, 2019 11:36:51 GMT
This trip is getting worse .. my connection flight to Zagreb has now been changed. Flying with eurowings. With this and unlikely to get a ticket and in a different stadium ... fuck it seems to come to mind Just seen that the flights have been changed, luckily saw your post. Might have to look at different flights now 🤔 I had same problem with them going to World Cup in Russia . I had a good afternoon connection from birmingham via Vienna with austrian airlines second leg that became a two stop morning flight changing in dusseldorf and vienna and still arriving in mocscow on same Austrian flight when they did this prices rose so much had to stick with it , one bonus austrain put on A 777 for vienna to moscow and had extra leg room seat So warning booking with these way in advance schedules change alot based on demand me thinks . Also if Osijek is rejected by Uefa my view is it will not be Zagreb as they could have chosen that to start with and they where quite happy to go with smaller stadium and it will not be split as i believe from articles around there is a lot of stuff needs to be done negotiation and others before they can play and theyre hoping to go theyre late in campaign. And Croatians will be put out by our objection if true i think Pula or Rjeka would be most likely |
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Post by manulike on Feb 24, 2019 13:30:41 GMT
I really hope its not going to be in Pula ...
I already have about ten bookings on that weekend in five different places on Booking.com ;-(
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Post by aberbeeg on Feb 24, 2019 15:17:58 GMT
I’m staying in Pula so I’d be happy with the game being played there
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Post by cymroircarn on Feb 24, 2019 19:43:35 GMT
We played there in October 2012 in a qualifier as did Azerbaijan in October 2014 The problem with the airport is only recent, as Ryan Air used to have daily flights out of there up until April 2017 ... In Summer 2018 they came back with a twice a week Summer flight to Frankfurt, but that also got dropped ...
I imagine that the stadium is in total disrepair, as the brand new Bordeaux look-alike is very near to completion...
That said, it can't be any worse than the away end of the Belgrade stadium ...
It is worse than Belgrade No toilets (4 portaloos with no lighting last time) No roof for away end No facilities for food and drink (setup a tent last time) Racing track around the ground so a long way away from the pitch Belgrade as a City is x100 better than Osijek |
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Post by gwernybwch on Feb 24, 2019 20:23:46 GMT
Just seen that the flights have been changed, luckily saw your post. Might have to look at different flights now 🤔 Also if Osijek is rejected by Uefa my view is it will not be Zagreb as they could have chosen that to start with and they where quite happy to go with smaller stadium and it will not be split as i believe from articles around there is a lot of stuff needs to be done negotiation and others before they can play and theyre hoping to go theyre late in campaign. And Croatians will be put out by our objection if true i think Pula or Rjeka would be most likely
Doesn't the stadium and / or the location have to on the list which each individual football association submit to UEFA before the draw is made? If I remember rightly Rjeka was on the Croatian list, but I don't think that Pula was? If Pula wasn't on the list, surely it would give the FAW grounds for objection (although I take your point that the Croatians could be awkward and move it to Rjeka). |
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Post by manulike on Feb 24, 2019 21:19:09 GMT
Also if Osijek is rejected by Uefa my view is it will not be Zagreb as they could have chosen that to start with and they where quite happy to go with smaller stadium and it will not be split as i believe from articles around there is a lot of stuff needs to be done negotiation and others before they can play and theyre hoping to go theyre late in campaign. And Croatians will be put out by our objection if true i think Pula or Rjeka would be most likely
Doesn't the stadium and / or the location have to on the list which each individual football association submit to UEFA before the draw is made? If I remember rightly Rjeka was on the Croatian list, but I don't think that Pula was? If Pula wasn't on the list, surely it would give the FAW grounds for objection (although I take your point that the Croatians could be awkward and move it to Rjeka). I knew that there must have been a reason why I booked all those places in Zagreb/Rijeka/Split and Osijek and not in Pula ;-) |
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Post by bleddccfc on Feb 25, 2019 9:20:26 GMT
Rijeka's ground holds 8,200...
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Post by eppingblue on Feb 25, 2019 9:24:21 GMT
It seems to me that its a straight forward case of not meeting the rules and therefor a new stadium need to be provided. That's before you even get onto the lack of accommodation due to the other event. Knowing our luck they'll move it to one of the smaller stadiums. Personally I hope its Split, mainly because I think it increase the likelihood of us getting a bigger allocation.
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Post by sleepy on Feb 25, 2019 9:41:18 GMT
It seems to me that its a straight forward case of not meeting the rules and therefor a new stadium need to be provided. But they are doing a site visit today. |
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Post by bleddccfc on Feb 25, 2019 9:44:29 GMT
It seems to me that its a straight forward case of not meeting the rules and therefor a new stadium need to be provided. But they are doing a site visit today. via Google Maps  |
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Post by mattyd on Feb 25, 2019 9:58:29 GMT
I'm not holding my breath for a venue change.
Unless there is a FAW representative there to set out the below grievances I fear the Croatian FA will get their way;
1) Inadequate facilities in the away end
2) Osijek is not an airport serviced by daily international flights
3) Osijek is over 90 minutes travel from the nearest international airport serviced by daily flights
4) Lack of accommodation for the allocated away attendance
5) Clashes with another well-attended event
I reckon that they will argue that they have hosted international games there before without major incident so why not now?
Praying for a change to Zagreb though!
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Post by eppingblue on Feb 25, 2019 11:10:53 GMT
I'm not holding my breath for a venue change. Unless there is a FAW representative there to set out the below grievances I fear the Croatian FA will get their way; 1) Inadequate facilities in the away end 2) Osijek is not an airport serviced by daily international flights 3) Osijek is over 90 minutes travel from the nearest international airport serviced by daily flights 4) Lack of accommodation for the allocated away attendance 5) Clashes with another well-attended event I reckon that they will argue that they have hosted international games there before without major incident so why not now? Praying for a change to Zagreb though! 1. Probably right but subjective. 2 and 3 absolute rule breaker which assuming they stick to the rules should result in a move particularly when taking account of 4 and 5. The thing that worries me about these delegations is that they're quite likely to be unaware of this additional issue and I don't see Croatia volunteering the information whilst still trying to get the venue approved. Trouble is Croatia will probably move it to one of their smaller venues. |
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Post by bleddccfc on Feb 25, 2019 11:15:02 GMT
I'm not holding my breath for a venue change. Unless there is a FAW representative there to set out the below grievances I fear the Croatian FA will get their way; 1) Inadequate facilities in the away end 2) Osijek is not an airport serviced by daily international flights 3) Osijek is over 90 minutes travel from the nearest international airport serviced by daily flights 4) Lack of accommodation for the allocated away attendance 5) Clashes with another well-attended event I reckon that they will argue that they have hosted international games there before without major incident so why not now? Praying for a change to Zagreb though! 1. Probably right but subjective. 2 and 3 absolute rule breaker which assuming they stick to the rules should result in a move particularly when taking account of 4 and 5. The thing that worries me about these delegations is that they're quite likely to be unaware of this additional issue and I don't see Croatia volunteering the information whilst still trying to get the venue approved. Trouble is Croatia will probably move it to one of their smaller venues. Can't see them moving it to Rijeka with it only holding 8k or so, they know the Croatian fans will turn out for our match. I can't see them moving it but if they do it's bound to be Zagreb or Split. |
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Post by sleepy on Feb 25, 2019 18:30:22 GMT
Any news on the site visit? I have scoured the web and social media but can't find anything.
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