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Post by iot on Aug 17, 2022 7:34:57 GMT
I disagree. I think he has made great strides this season and improved his ball carrrying and passing under Martin. I think he will play Premier League in next 2 years and will be a future captain of Wales. So there 😎 I hope you're right,I just remember the Czech game, first time I'd noticed him and Mepham in the same team,and the often derided Mepham looked a much better player ,when seen together. I think Mepham gets far more stick than he deserves, and Cabango gets more of a free ride simply because he's newer. Cabango is a decent championship player and will therefore be an option for us for years to come. But I just don't think he's a natural footballer, which often leads to mistakes due to a poor touch, botched clearance attempt, or poor pass etc. so I personally don't think he's likely to improve much on his current level |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Aug 20, 2022 21:39:09 GMT
I hope you're right,I just remember the Czech game, first time I'd noticed him and Mepham in the same team,and the often derided Mepham looked a much better player ,when seen together. I think Mepham gets far more stick than he deserves, and Cabango gets more of a free ride simply because he's newer. Cabango is a decent championship player and will therefore be an option for us for years to come. But I just don't think he's a natural footballer, which often leads to mistakes due to a poor touch, botched clearance attempt, or poor pass etc. so I personally don't think he's likely to improve much on his current level Can I be the first to call them both sub-par then? |
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Post by evans1282 on Aug 20, 2022 23:50:22 GMT
I think Mepham gets far more stick than he deserves, and Cabango gets more of a free ride simply because he's newer. Cabango is a decent championship player and will therefore be an option for us for years to come. But I just don't think he's a natural footballer, which often leads to mistakes due to a poor touch, botched clearance attempt, or poor pass etc. so I personally don't think he's likely to improve much on his current level Can I be the first to call them both sub-par then? Call them what you like,my comment was intended as a comparison between players,not really sure what "par" would be,but put it this wayl,I think Mepham in particular in a three offers more than this forums posters seem to credit . |
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Post by welwyn on Aug 21, 2022 7:51:32 GMT
Lockyer certainly outplayed him yesterday.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Aug 21, 2022 8:34:08 GMT
Can I be the first to call them both sub-par then? Call them what you like,my comment was intended as a comparison between players,not really sure what "par" would be,but put it this wayl,I think Mepham in particular in a three offers more than this forums posters seem to credit . Neither are really good centre backs. They're OK, and can do a job. Sometimes that's enough but neither offer as much as Rodon and Davies. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 21, 2022 9:32:15 GMT
Can I be the first to call them both sub-par then? Call them what you like,my comment was intended as a comparison between players,not really sure what "par" would be,but put it this wayl, I think Mepham in particular in a three offers more than this forums posters seem to credit . Agree. I have no qualms about starting him |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 21, 2022 9:43:14 GMT
Call them what you like,my comment was intended as a comparison between players,not really sure what "par" would be,but put it this wayl,I think Mepham in particular in a three offers more than this forums posters seem to credit . Neither are really good centre backs. They're OK, and can do a job. Sometimes that's enough but neither offer as much as Rodon and Davies. Rodon is far closer to Mepham in ability than he is to Davies |
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Post by jimexotic on Aug 21, 2022 11:55:20 GMT
I think Mepham will become a very good centre back by the time he's in his late 20's. I don't think Cabango will ever be better than an alright Championship centre back.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Aug 21, 2022 18:35:20 GMT
Neither are really good centre backs. They're OK, and can do a job. Sometimes that's enough but neither offer as much as Rodon and Davies. Rodon is far closer to Mepham in ability than he is to Davies Doesn't negate the fact that there's some distance between Rodon and Mepham. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 21, 2022 19:20:18 GMT
Rodon is far closer to Mepham in ability than he is to Davies Doesn't negate the fact that there's some distance between Rodon and Mepham. Is there? I really don't think there is. I think Rodon is overrated by plenty of Wales fans because he does a lot of the stuff that fans notice and love like big blocks, tackles, headers etc but the reason he's had to do some of that is poor positioning on his part which has cost us at times We've seen in his performances for Wales exactly why he didn't get into the Spurs team, his positioning isn't great and his passing isn't the best either. I think Mepham gets a lot of unfair stick and while he has cost us in the past, he's certainly improved and has looked more assure as time has gone on. I thought he was pretty good at the Euros despite concerns he'd be a liability and if he keeps getting games in the Premier League then he needs to be in the conversation as a potential starter. Anyway back to Cabango I think he'll be a solid squad player for us for a good while at least, he's nearing 100 league appearances at 22 which is impressive for a centre back but I don't think he's as good as Rodon/Mepham/Ampadu |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Aug 21, 2022 22:04:21 GMT
Doesn't negate the fact that there's some distance between Rodon and Mepham. Is there? I really don't think there is. I think Rodon is overrated by plenty of Wales fans because he does a lot of the stuff that fans notice and love like big blocks, tackles, headers etc but the reason he's had to do some of that is poor positioning on his part which has cost us at times We've seen in his performances for Wales exactly why he didn't get into the Spurs team, his positioning isn't great and his passing isn't the best either. I think Mepham gets a lot of unfair stick and while he has cost us in the past, he's certainly improved and has looked more assure as time has gone on. I thought he was pretty good at the Euros despite concerns he'd be a liability and if he keeps getting games in the Premier League then he needs to be in the conversation as a potential starter. Anyway back to Cabango I think he'll be a solid squad player for us for a good while at least, he's nearing 100 league appearances at 22 which is impressive for a centre back but I don't think he's as good as Rodon/Mepham/Ampadu Yes. Yes there is. |
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Post by underwood on Aug 27, 2022 16:02:07 GMT
A red card to compliment his own goal the other week.
This bloke is nowhere near the World Cup squad.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 28, 2022 6:15:04 GMT
A red card to compliment his own goal the other week. This bloke is nowhere near the World Cup squad. Are players not allowed to have off days? Scoring own goals is part of being a defender. No he’s not prime Ashley Williams, but give the 22 year old some slack. |
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Post by underwood on Aug 28, 2022 7:35:25 GMT
A red card to compliment his own goal the other week. This bloke is nowhere near the World Cup squad. Are players not allowed to have off days? Scoring own goals is part of being a defender. No he’s not prime Ashley Williams, but give the 22 year old some slack. He has a lot of off days. His performances for Wales so far don’t inspire me, he gives the ball away & plays like bambi on ice, we have better centre half options ahead of him. |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 28, 2022 7:44:12 GMT
Are players not allowed to have off days? Scoring own goals is part of being a defender. No he’s not prime Ashley Williams, but give the 22 year old some slack. He has a lot of off days. His performances for Wales so far don’t inspire me, he gives the ball away & plays like bambi on ice, we have better centre half options ahead of him. A friendly v Czech Republic not really worth basing a lot off. |
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Post by hooky on Aug 28, 2022 8:46:24 GMT
He is not going to make it I assume.
I have not watched him but he appears too inconsistent from the comments I have seen and technically not good enough it seems.
Its unfortunate as he is so massive and brilliant in the air. Maybe his judgement and reading of the game will materially improve with more experience and you'd hope he can improve technically a little too.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 28, 2022 10:02:21 GMT
A red card to compliment his own goal the other week. This bloke is nowhere near the World Cup squad. Just seen why he was sent off, off the ball / after the whistle incident. Nothing to do with playing. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2022 14:32:22 GMT
Most defenders peak later in their careers, I think he will be a good option in the future, but I don't think he'll be the cornerstone of our squads for years to come. More likely to end his career with 30-40 caps, as opposed to the likes of Mepham & Rodon who will get closer to 100
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 29, 2022 16:53:36 GMT
A red card to compliment his own goal the other week. This bloke is nowhere near the World Cup squad. Just seen why he was sent off, off the ball / after the whistle incident. Nothing to do with playing. That's worse than mistiming a tackle, what the hell was he thinking? |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 29, 2022 17:02:42 GMT
Just seen why he was sent off, off the ball / after the whistle incident. Nothing to do with playing. That's worse than mistiming a tackle, what the hell was he thinking? Happens to the best of players. Just like Brennan yesterday, who also got a yellow. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 29, 2022 17:05:33 GMT
That's worse than mistiming a tackle, what the hell was he thinking? Happens to the best of players. Just like Brennan yesterday, who also got a yellow. Not really the same though are they? Goal down in added time, already booked and he decides to run out of his way to shove someone over? Madness |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 29, 2022 18:45:29 GMT
Silly boy!
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Post by trippinbillie on Aug 30, 2022 12:25:48 GMT
His reaction to the incident was immature and shows a massive amount of frustration. The guy is lacking confidence and it's showing as it is throughout the Swans defence. During his early days with Potter and Cooper baring the injury he was progressing as a good defender (yes he made mistakes as do all young defenders) but under Martin he has regressed as the style of play seems to be a bit of a shambles. He seems to be carrying the weight of the team on his shoulders, but in time he will be a decent player for club and country.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 31, 2022 10:10:07 GMT
Happens to the best of players. Just like Brennan yesterday, who also got a yellow. Not really the same though are they? Goal down in added time, already booked and he decides to run out of his way to shove someone over? Madness The only difference was Brennan wasn’t already booked. |
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Post by saturn9 on Aug 31, 2022 10:15:08 GMT
His reaction to the incident was immature and shows a massive amount of frustration. The guy is lacking confidence and it's showing as it is throughout the Swans defence. During his early days with Potter and Cooper baring the injury he was progressing as a good defender (yes he made mistakes as do all young defenders) but under Martin he has regressed as the style of play seems to be a bit of a shambles. He seems to be carrying the weight of the team on his shoulders, but in time he will be a decent player for club and country. He needs a move away unfortunately, a better manager than the Martin may get much more out of Benjamin currently. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 31, 2022 15:15:10 GMT
Not really the same though are they? Goal down in added time, already booked and he decides to run out of his way to shove someone over? Madness The only difference was Brennan wasn’t already booked. Even if that was the only difference it's a pretty major one considering it led to a red card. But Johnson's was a frustrated tackle in a game they'd already lost having not been booked. Cabango went out of his way to run over, shove someone over during a break in play when Swansea are a goal down in added time, getting himself sent off in the process. Not really the same are they? |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 1, 2022 1:31:29 GMT
The only difference was Brennan wasn’t already booked. Even if that was the only difference it's a pretty major one considering it led to a red card. But Johnson's was a frustrated tackle in a game they'd already lost having not been booked. Cabango went out of his way to run over, shove someone over during a break in play when Swansea are a goal down in added time, getting himself sent off in the process. Not really the same are they? They were both red mists to do with show boating. |
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Post by iot on Sept 17, 2022 13:44:24 GMT
Fair play to him, just watched their 3-0 win and Cabango had a pretty faultless performance. Wasn't tested at all defensively, but he was great on the ball. Don't think he lost the ball once, and played some really good, progressive passes through the lines too.
Still concerned about how he handles quick, high quality forwards though. He's looked a little like Bambi on ice against that type of opposition for Wales (thinking about the Mexico, Czech, and England games). But he's definitely gone up a level on the ball, which is great to see.
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Post by iot on Oct 5, 2022 21:37:06 GMT
98th minute winner! He offers by far the greatest goal threat of all our centre backs. Always aggressively attacks the ball whereas someone like Rodon, who should have the same physical advantages to bag a few, never attacks the ball with conviction.
It was Cabango's first goal of the season, but he's been close almost every time I've seen him for the swans this season.
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Post by trippinbillie on Oct 12, 2022 10:01:13 GMT
Tbf since his sending off against Middlesbrough he's been playing very well and in my opinion including against Poland, I think the change in the way Swansea have played the last few weeks hasn't left him as exposed as it did in the past and that shows in his performances. He looks a more confident player all around.
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