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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 3, 2020 17:13:41 GMT
No, it was down Guehi's side, and Benda was really at fault, he should have shaved it comfortably. Cabango looked good, Rodon was magnificent. All three of them avoided injury, and look at full fitness. A case for all 3 starting together for Wales due to familiarity and form? I wouldn’t have a problem with that |
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Post by dai on Oct 3, 2020 17:15:46 GMT
Cabango > Mepham anyone?
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Post by cyfreithiwr on Oct 3, 2020 17:36:22 GMT
yes dai. We have had a load of great youngsters over the years but Rodon trumps the lot. Got to be valued at north of 30mil in current market
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Post by barry on Oct 3, 2020 18:41:08 GMT
Wouldn't put Cabango above Mepham yet but he's improving with every game.
Still only 20 which is very young for a center back. Ash wasn't playing at this level till he was 25, IIRC, and he done good.
With Rodon, Mepham, and Cabango (and Ampadu if needed) we have that crucial central defence sorted for a good half a dozen campaigns.
Also off the Swansea Center Back conveyor belt there is Brandon Cooper, also only 20, and getting good reviews at Newport. May well be recalled in January if Rodon is off.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 3, 2020 18:58:15 GMT
No, it was down Guehi's side, and Benda was really at fault, he should have shaved it comfortably. Cabango looked good, Rodon was magnificent. All three of them avoided injury, and look at full fitness. A case for all 3 starting together for Wales due to familiarity and form? There's a case for it. If Ben Davies was to play left-back, then the back four would have all been produced by the Swans. I'd still go for Mepham over Cabango for the time being though, he looked good and comfortable on the ball against Coventry last night. |
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Post by barry on Oct 17, 2020 14:05:10 GMT
Big game for Ben today. Starts in the middle of a back three.
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Post by barry on Oct 17, 2020 16:49:45 GMT
Had a very good game. Distribution a bit iffy at times.
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Post by barry on Oct 31, 2020 15:30:46 GMT
Fantastic header to put Swans one up direct from a Connor corner.
Roberts been taking dead balls last couple of games and been a revelation.
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Post by manulike on Oct 31, 2020 16:54:42 GMT
Fantastic header to put Swans one up direct from a Connor corner. Roberts been taking dead balls last couple of games and been a revelation. Fair play. Both of them have been fantastic today. Looks like Ben lost a bit of weight and gained loads of confidence.
Winning plenty of balls in the middle of the park and breaking a lot of the play - dare I say it, maybe worth looking at him as a DM?
Its been a while since the Swans actually played so well in both halves.
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Post by barry on Oct 31, 2020 17:15:20 GMT
Must have won every single aerial challenge today.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 2, 2020 14:25:41 GMT
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Post by barry on Nov 3, 2020 18:59:05 GMT
Injured in the warm up today and pulled.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 3, 2020 23:05:45 GMT
It's a hamstring injury, so I'd imagine there's a good chance he'll be out of this month's games.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 6, 2020 10:05:20 GMT
Big Ben's in contention for Norwich, so presumably should be fine to get himself a cap against the US.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 16, 2021 20:44:17 GMT
CabanGÔÔÔÔL strikes again. Assisted by his bestie Connor
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Post by barneycat1 on Jan 16, 2021 21:58:57 GMT
Future Wales Captain
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Mar 6, 2021 18:44:47 GMT
Played really well today, possibly the best player on the pitch and seems to be improving with first team games and experience.
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Post by iot on Mar 6, 2021 20:37:16 GMT
Played really well today, possibly the best player on the pitch and seems to be improving with first team games and experience. Agreed, he defended very well. I'm skeptical about his potential, but would be very happy if he proves me wrong! I'd certainly like to see him play a few games for us in friendlies and against lesser opponents before chucking him against the likes of belgium and czeck though! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 7, 2021 11:17:07 GMT
Played really well today, possibly the best player on the pitch and seems to be improving with first team games and experience. Agreed, he defended very well. I'm skeptical about his potential, but would be very happy if he proves me wrong! I'd certainly like to see him play a few games for us in friendlies and against lesser opponents before chucking him against the likes of belgium and czeck though! Why is it you are skeptical about his potential? To me, if someone like RND can play for Luton & do well, then come in and do well for us internationally it shows Championship players have the quality to perform on that level. I know there is a bit more anxiety around CBs because 1 mistake thereand a goal can happen against top strikers, but if someone is consistent in the Championship to me that's good enough to say they can start for Wales. After all Rodon is our only Premier League CB. Lockyer & Mepham both also Championship & did well for us against Croatia |
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Post by hooky on Mar 7, 2021 11:44:39 GMT
The guy is 20 and is playing centre back for the second ranked team in the Championship
I read the reports and he is consistently getting high marks and his aggression, aerial ability and basics of defending (blocks, etc) are always noted.
Then I read this constant nonesense about question marks over his potential! Crazy. How composed is that to come in after Rodon and Swansea have such a strong defensive record.
I'd rather have a fighter that is a great defender over a pretty centre back that does not have the heart for a fight anyday. We are not Spain, Italy or Germany and our Championship players and Premier League reserves can do well against teams the next rung down from the elite!
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Post by iot on Mar 7, 2021 13:43:14 GMT
Agreed, he defended very well. I'm skeptical about his potential, but would be very happy if he proves me wrong! I'd certainly like to see him play a few games for us in friendlies and against lesser opponents before chucking him against the likes of belgium and czeck though! Why is it you are skeptical about his potential? To me, if someone like RND can play for Luton & do well, then come in and do well for us internationally it shows Championship players have the quality to perform on that level. I know there is a bit more anxiety around CBs because 1 mistake thereand a goal can happen against top strikers, but if someone is consistent in the Championship to me that's good enough to say they can start for Wales. After all Rodon is our only Premier League CB. Lockyer & Mepham both also Championship & did well for us against Croatia It's not about the level he's playing at. I want Smith to start, and he's in League 1. Morrell did exceptionally well for us when he was in league 1 too. I think the league our players are in is probably the most important indicator in assessing players' quality, but there's more to it. Watching him play, there are several things that make me think he would struggle against better opposition, things like his first touch, passing, turn of pace etc. I think there are lots of things he can get away with at this level, but would be found out against better opponents. Also worth noting that every swansea defender looks very good and I suspect that's partly because their system, with 3 CBs and two holding mids, gives maximum protection |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 7, 2021 13:51:03 GMT
Why is it you are skeptical about his potential? To me, if someone like RND can play for Luton & do well, then come in and do well for us internationally it shows Championship players have the quality to perform on that level. I know there is a bit more anxiety around CBs because 1 mistake thereand a goal can happen against top strikers, but if someone is consistent in the Championship to me that's good enough to say they can start for Wales. After all Rodon is our only Premier League CB. Lockyer & Mepham both also Championship & did well for us against Croatia It's not about the level he's playing at. I want Smith to start, and he's in League 1. Morrell did exceptionally well for us when he was in league 1 too. I think the league our players are in is probably the most important indicator in assessing players' quality, but there's more to it. Watching him play, there are several things that make me think he would struggle against better opposition, things like his first touch, passing, turn of pace etc. I think there are lots of things he can get away with at this level, but would be found out against better opponents. Also worth noting that every swansea defender looks very good and I suspect that's partly because their system, with 3 CBs and two holding mids, gives maximum protection Fair enough, I haven't watched him enough to make a judgement on that but I'll take your word for it. 3 CBs & 2 holding mids is what we will be playing against Belgium in all likelihood, so maybe it's good preparation for us playing similarly to Swansea |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Mar 7, 2021 14:02:28 GMT
I think he's doing really well, and I think he's undoubtedly improving as a player and a defender under Cooper. He's going to be a better defender then our last games which is all that really matters to be honest. I've got doubts about whether he could step up to the top flight, but I've got doubts about most of the Swans squad to be honest (anyone we own bar Ayew & Roberts).
He isn't as technically good as others, although this side of his game is improving and he's got lots of time on his side to improve this. He does excel in other areas though, he seems to be getting the basics right and physically in either box he's a real handful. He's far better at attacking crosses then the likes of Rodon, and is our main threat from set pieces and long throws.
I think it's useful for us to have different types of centre-backs coming through, and he's certainly different in style to Rodon and B. Cooper.
It's going to be interesting to see how far he goes, but I think his attitude is top and whilst working under a good coach, he's going to keep improving. I definitely think the strengths of his game mean he's going to be a successful player at Championship level for sure, and we'll see how far he's able to go.
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Post by iot on Mar 7, 2021 15:00:51 GMT
I think he's doing really well, and I think he's undoubtedly improving as a player and a defender under Cooper. He's going to be a better defender then our last games which is all that really matters to be honest. I've got doubts about whether he could step up to the top flight, but I've got doubts about most of the Swans squad to be honest (anyone we own bar Ayew & Roberts). He isn't as technically good as others, although this side of his game is improving and he's got lots of time on his side to improve this. He does excel in other areas though, he seems to be getting the basics right and physically in either box he's a real handful. He's far better at attacking crosses then the likes of Rodon, and is our main threat from set pieces and long throws. I think it's useful for us to have different types of centre-backs coming through, and he's certainly different in style to Rodon and B. Cooper. It's going to be interesting to see how far he goes, but I think his attitude is top and whilst working under a good coach, he's going to keep improving. I definitely think the strengths of his game mean he's going to be a successful player at Championship level for sure, and we'll see how far he's able to go. Thanks for articulating my thoughts much better than I could! |
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Post by hooky on Mar 20, 2021 17:43:48 GMT
Why has Copper demoted him for the last few games? They have conceded more games since this has happened? he is aggressive and great in the air - just the kind of defender you want in a scrap for promotion surely?
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Post by hooky on Mar 20, 2021 17:44:35 GMT
... and he scores the odd goal too!
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Post by iot on Mar 21, 2021 11:28:43 GMT
Why has Copper demoted him for the last few games? They have conceded more games since this has happened? he is aggressive and great in the air - just the kind of defender you want in a scrap for promotion surely? I don't think that's right. He played in the 4-1 and 3-1 losses to huddersfield and bristol city, along with the 1-1 with Blackburn. I watched some of those games and he was poor. I think for Wales, he will be a good squad player for years to come, but personally I don't think he's likely to be a starter for us |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 23, 2021 14:54:56 GMT
Be interesting to see him against Mexico although he could get picked ahead of Mepham
Not as convinced by him like some people but really hope he comes through as of he does him and Rodon could be a good partnership especially with Ampadu in front of them
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Post by dylanjunecymru on Mar 28, 2021 10:44:47 GMT
Has to start tuesday for me.
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Post by welshiron on Mar 28, 2021 10:55:59 GMT
Not for me, not quite ready. Would prefer some experience in the back line
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