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Post by richierich333 on Mar 21, 2019 12:26:06 GMT
Vaulks did more in one match than King has in 50 caps
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Post by dai on Mar 21, 2019 12:33:35 GMT
Vaulks did more in one match than King has in 50 caps Ha, those were my thoughts, but perhaps a bit daft. Still early to have an opinion on squad pecking orders, but a few more performances like that from Vaulks, and against better opposition will move him in front of King. |
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Post by dai on Mar 21, 2019 12:36:40 GMT
What's this on twitter about him swearing on camera?? Not sure if it's this footage, but can't decipher what he says. 'Hell, there's no one there' ? Seen another tweet where he apparently said 'fuckin hell where is every one'  |
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 21, 2019 13:02:35 GMT
I heard 'fuckin ell nah (no) one thereeee!' I remember it cos it made me laugh
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 21, 2019 13:03:12 GMT
The sky guy apologised on his behalf AFTER the watershed.
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 21, 2019 14:34:09 GMT
Cult hero
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Post by cadno on Mar 21, 2019 14:55:26 GMT
King better on the ball imo, Vaulks by the looks of it better at getting stuck in, andy crofts style
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Post by cadno on Mar 21, 2019 14:56:47 GMT
Vaulks did more in one match than King has in 50 caps That's bollocks.. |
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Post by iot on Mar 21, 2019 16:26:44 GMT
I think every team needs a player like Vaulks and we haven't had one for a while. His positive attributes more than make up for his lack of grace or natural talent. He gives good balance to the passing of Allen, the creativity of Ramsey and the pace of bale. Could be a starter in a few years, who knows? Not sure about that. Preferably, we want a midfielder who can sit deep alongside allen and provide protection. Although vaulks had enough bite to his game, I thought he was meant to be more of a box to box midfielder, not a busquests type midfielder who just sits deep and mops up. |
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Post by melynwy on Mar 21, 2019 16:44:43 GMT
...a busquests type midfielder who just sits deep and mops up. Come on, Busquets is so much more than that! He is an absolutely phenomenal player. One of the very best deep lying midfielders to have ever played the game. |
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Post by alarch on Mar 21, 2019 16:53:26 GMT
...a busquests type midfielder who just sits deep and mops up. Come on, Busquets is so much more than that! He is an absolutely phenomenal player. One of the very best deep lying midfielders to have ever played the game. Fair point, but to come to iot's rescue here, Busquets role is primarily as described. Ampadu is our Busquets - once he gets a bit more established - which really gives us far more options in terms of formation. This is a somewhat old article but it nicely sums up the relative advantages of the double pivot (essentially 4-2-3-1) versus the single pivot (4-3-3 et al): outsideoftheboot.com/2015/09/30/the-pros-and-cons-of-the-double-pivot/ |
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 21, 2019 17:13:35 GMT
...a busquests type midfielder who just sits deep and mops up. Come on, Busquets is so much more than that! He is an absolutely phenomenal player. One of the very best deep lying midfielders to have ever played the game. I just meant someone who'll really get stuck in with some meaty tackles, bite like you said |
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Post by iot on Mar 21, 2019 17:14:05 GMT
Come on, Busquets is so much more than that! He is an absolutely phenomenal player. One of the very best deep lying midfielders to have ever played the game. Fair point, but to come to iot's rescue here, Busquets role is primarily as described. Ampadu is our Busquets - once he gets a bit more established - which really gives us far more options in terms of formation. This is a somewhat old article but it nicely sums up the relative advantages of the double pivot (essentially 4-2-3-1) versus the single pivot (4-3-3 et al): outsideoftheboot.com/2015/09/30/the-pros-and-cons-of-the-double-pivot/Yep, my point was more about the positions and role in the team and I used busquets as an example simply because he's regarded as the best in the world in that role. As you say, ampadu can do it but i'm not sure if vaulks is an option in that role, not because he's not good enough but because, as I understand it, that's not his position. |
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Post by iot on Mar 21, 2019 18:30:20 GMT
Come on, Busquets is so much more than that! He is an absolutely phenomenal player. One of the very best deep lying midfielders to have ever played the game. I just meant someone who'll really get stuck in with some meaty tackles, bite like you said Yeah I get that, but I don't think a midfield 3 of Allen-Vaulks-Rambo would work as neither suited to sitting deep. So I see him as backup to allen/rambo, rather than competing with Ampadu who is ideally suited to the holding, defensive mid role. With Smith, I'm not sure what his role is, whether he can sit deep or whether again he's more of a Allen type midfielder. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 21, 2019 22:54:37 GMT
I just meant someone who'll really get stuck in with some meaty tackles, bite like you said Yeah I get that, but I don't think a midfield 3 of Allen-Vaulks-Rambo would work as neither suited to sitting deep. So I see him as backup to allen/rambo, rather than competing with Ampadu who is ideally suited to the holding, defensive mid role. With Smith, I'm not sure what his role is, whether he can sit deep or whether again he's more of a Allen type midfielder. Spot on. Just look at how many shots Vaulks was having, and compare that to Ampadu when he has played. This just highlights that Vaulks is more of an 8, and Ampadu is more of a 6. Ampadu will always bring better balance to the team because Smith and Vaulks aren't natural 6's. That's why I believe when he's fit Ampadu should be starting every game, regardless of how much he's played for Chelsea. As previously mentioned, Vaulks seems like he would be a good option from the bench if we are in search of a goal, as it seems like he poses a genuine goal threat, as evidenced by his assist and all those shots on target that were blocked. |
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Post by dai on Mar 22, 2019 1:02:12 GMT
Since he's popped up I keep thinking he looks like someone, and tonight I finally sussed it Vaulks  Ryan gosling  |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 22, 2019 8:15:58 GMT
Come on, Busquets is so much more than that! He is an absolutely phenomenal player. One of the very best deep lying midfielders to have ever played the game. I just meant someone who'll really get stuck in with some meaty tackles, bite like you said Compare to Busquettes that funnier than the joniesta bollox |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 22, 2019 8:20:31 GMT
I just meant someone who'll really get stuck in with some meaty tackles, bite like you said Yeah I get that, but I don't think a midfield 3 of Allen-Vaulks-Rambo would work as neither suited to sitting deep. So I see him as backup to allen/rambo, rather than competing with Ampadu who is ideally suited to the holding, defensive mid role. With Smith, I'm not sure what his role is, whether he can sit deep or whether again he's more of a Allen type midfielder. He is not in the same Parish as Ampadu. People are getting carried away he had a half decent game against poor opponents. I said before the game this would happen with someone. He does provide cover should Allen ampadu Smith Ramsey and king are all injured. Probably add huws and William's tobthat list. Did look better than Evans but it was only one game. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 22, 2019 8:35:30 GMT
Vaulks did more in one match than King has in 50 caps WOW |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 22, 2019 8:45:36 GMT
Vaulks did more in one match than King has in 50 caps WOW What on earth are you on? |
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 22, 2019 9:23:54 GMT
I just meant someone who'll really get stuck in with some meaty tackles, bite like you said Compare to Busquettes that funnier than the joniesta bollox As you can see I accidentally quoted the wrong post. |
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 22, 2019 9:25:29 GMT
Vaulks did more in one match than King has in 50 caps WOW Every fucking post i put up, give it a rest. If you want me off block me, you are a mod after all. You are obsessed. |
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 22, 2019 9:30:29 GMT
What on earth are you on? I take it you are referring to me. Ok clearly I was exaggerating, you must by now, be aware of this concept. I will also rephrase this just for you: In my humble opinion Vaulks played better for Wales than I've ever seen (again in my opinion) Andy King play for us. If you want me to qualify it even more please ask. Also if you have an Andy King special you'd like to counter it with by all means enlighten me. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 22, 2019 9:41:22 GMT
Every fucking post i put up, give it a rest. If you want me off block me, you are a mod after all. You are obsessed. That would be an abuse of my mod duties Richie bach, behave. I don't know what you've had for breakfast but I suggest you have less of it as its making you paranoid. I don't recall replying to any of your other posts recently.
My 'WOW' statement still stands. To suggest Vaulks has done more than King has through all the age groups and 50 senior caps is a little bit...(I'll choose my words carefully since you're a touch sensitive) errr...silly. Lets not get carried away.
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 22, 2019 10:03:21 GMT
Every fucking post i put up, give it a rest. If you want me off block me, you are a mod after all. You are obsessed. That would be an abuse of my mod duties Richie bach, behave. I don't know what you've had for breakfast but I suggest you have less of it as its making you paranoid. I don't recall replying to any of your other posts recently.
My 'WOW' statement still stands. To suggest Vaulks has done more than King has through all the age groups and 50 senior caps is a little bit...(I'll choose my words carefully since you're a touch sensitive) errr...silly. Lets not get carried away.
I'm not touchy at all but you jump on every post i make. Clearly i was exaggerating. |
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Post by dai on Mar 22, 2019 10:12:55 GMT
C'mon guys, calm down, let's just admire the similarities between Vaulks and Gosling.
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 22, 2019 10:22:04 GMT
C'mon guys, calm down, let's just admire the similarities between Vaulks and Gosling. I was trying to think who he looked like and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. There it is |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 22, 2019 10:24:40 GMT
C'mon guys, calm down, let's just admire the similarities between Vaulks and Gosling. Iawn cont? Pwy yw Will??
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Post by eppingblue on Mar 22, 2019 10:44:14 GMT
Lets wait until he's got a bit more game time under his belt before rushing to judgement. It was the first time I've seen him play and he's certainly got a load of energy and really gives it a go. I thought all 3 of those shots he had charged down were goal bound. On the downside he looks to have more than his fair share of mistakes in him and I had the feeling he was a sending off waiting to happen.
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Post by dai on Mar 22, 2019 10:57:48 GMT
Lets wait until he's got a bit more game time under his belt before rushing to judgement. It was the first time I've seen him play and he's certainly got a load of energy and really gives it a go. I thought all 3 of those shots he had charged down were goal bound. On the downside he looks to have more than his fair share of mistakes in him and I had the feeling he was a sending off waiting to happen. I wouldn't say mistakes as such, but perhaps over enthusiasm and maybe too aggressive. He's a physical player, and those type of players will always be more prone to pick up cards. Looks like he has a hell of a shot on him, and it was nice to see genuine frustration when he had shots blocked whereas other players didn't show the same level of passion. |
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