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Post by alarch on Feb 5, 2020 10:28:11 GMT
I'm still not convinced ability wise. Plenty of other noble traits but these can only take you so far. Exactly. I would never rule a player out, and it's good to hear that Vaulks seems to be finding his feet, especially as he comes across as a really genuine guy. But he was badly exposed out in Croatia, in the heat. Possession football attributes (high pass completion rate, good first touch, good in tight spaces) are a must for tournament football if you're to have any realistic ambition of doing well, and I remain to be convinced that Vaulks possesses these attributes. |
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Post by welshiron on Feb 5, 2020 11:06:33 GMT
Not good enough for international football.
May get a squad place so he can launch long throws into Moores head. However I hope Giggs has better plans than this.
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 5, 2020 11:20:32 GMT
His defensive positioning is his biggest weakness, he looks lost at times. Its no coincidence that Cardiff leak goals when he's in the side.
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Post by gimli on Feb 5, 2020 14:32:00 GMT
His defensive positioning is his biggest weakness, he looks lost at times. Its no coincidence that Cardiff leak goals when he's in the side. Cardiff leak goals regardless of if Vaulks is in the side. The problem goes much deeper than him. He's never going to be in the running for one of the starting spots in Wales' midfield if everyone's available, but I think he's a decent squad option. If he plays regularly for Cardiff for the rest of the season, I think Giggs will take him to the Euros. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 5, 2020 14:41:25 GMT
His defensive positioning is his biggest weakness, he looks lost at times. Its no coincidence that Cardiff leak goals when he's in the side. Vaulks isn't the reason Cardiff concede, the shit defence is the reason Cardiff concede |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 5, 2020 14:48:17 GMT
Obviously Vaulks isn't the only reason but his weak defensive ability plays a big part, a facet of his game that was cruelly exposed in Croatia last summer. I shudder to think of him lining up against the Swiss in the opening game.
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Post by manulike on Feb 10, 2020 18:07:09 GMT
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Post by alarch on Feb 10, 2020 19:47:16 GMT
I don't get your enthusiasm for Vaulks. What does he bring to the table exactly? I certainly wouldn't have him ahead of either Morrell or Smith.
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Post by manulike on Feb 10, 2020 20:46:42 GMT
I don't get your enthusiasm for Vaulks. What does he bring to the table exactly? I certainly wouldn't have him ahead of either Morrell or Smith. I have seen enough of Smith last year to agree with you. Not seen hardly enough of Morrell to have an informed opinion.
Sometimes, its not only about the football - think Will has character, and that goes a long way!
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Post by cadno on Feb 10, 2020 20:55:46 GMT
In order, our best cdm options imo:
Allen, Ampadu, Morrell, Huws, Smith, Joniesta, King, Sheehan, Vaulks.
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Post by welshiron on Feb 10, 2020 22:13:36 GMT
Not good enough.
Another that shouldn't have been capped
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 11, 2020 8:51:56 GMT
Not good enough. Another that shouldn't have been capped Bit harsh this. He was definitely worth a look in a friendly. |
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Post by dai on Feb 11, 2020 13:11:38 GMT
Really don't understand why some of the hate towards him on here.......
He had a great debut, and has been a bit poor in other matches - but you could say the same about half the squad over last campaign.
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 11, 2020 13:41:33 GMT
Really don't understand why some of the hate towards him on here....... He had a great debut, and has been a bit poor in other matches - but you could say the same about half the squad over last campaign. Strange considering he's given his all as well, same with James Lawrence If Ampadu and Smith don't get more game time, and Vaulks continues as he is for Cardiff he may well be starting against Switzerland |
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Post by manulike on Feb 11, 2020 13:52:28 GMT
Really don't understand why some of the hate towards him on here....... He had a great debut, and has been a bit poor in other matches - but you could say the same about half the squad over last campaign. Strange considering he's given his all as well, same with James Lawrence If Ampadu and Smith don't get more game time, and Vaulks continues as he is for Cardiff he may well be starting against Switzerland #METOO
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 11, 2020 15:11:06 GMT
Please no
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Post by cadno on Feb 11, 2020 16:23:15 GMT
He shouldn't start any of our games.
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Post by alarch on Feb 11, 2020 18:21:36 GMT
I don't hate Vaulks at all. From what I've read he's a good character. My reservations about him are purely footballing ones. He's only played at Championship level for teams that play an unsophisticated brand of football. That's not necessarily a problem (Tomlin's a quality player from what I've seen and heard) - but when you look at his skillset it just doesn't match up to the brand of football I think we should be playing.
On Whoscored.com his attributes are: very strong on aerial duels and taking set pieces, strong on long shots, direct free-kicks, key passes and interceptions, but weak on passing and discipline. His "Style of Play" is: Likes to play long balls, Plays the ball off the ground often, Indirect set-piece threat, Likes to tackle. Some of those attributes (key passes and interceptions) would be great in any team, but to be weak on passing is a fundamental flaw in my book. Both Smith and Morrell (apart from Ampadu and Allen who are a given) are good in this department, as is Huws, and Joniesta (if playing a 4-3-3). This is a key quality in a team attempting to play a progressive brand of football. So, it's really hard to see Vaulks fitting in. Giggs may see things very differently mind.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 11, 2020 20:35:33 GMT
Not good enough. Another that shouldn't have been capped I don't think you can say that given that he assisted the winner for us vs T&T. You don't have to rate him but the assist on it's own shows it was worth calling him up. |
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Post by manulike on Feb 11, 2020 20:38:59 GMT
... There will be plenty of Baluga fish swimming up and down the Caspian between now and June ...
By then, I imagine that William will become a cult hero at the CCS ;-))
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 12, 2020 20:19:55 GMT
Just scored an excellent side footed volley
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 12, 2020 20:21:57 GMT
Way down the pecking order is harsh on Vaulks He was out of his depth in Croatia. Has he been playing well for Cardiff? Allen, Morrell, Ampadu, Smith, King, Huws & Joniesta are all ahead of him for me. He's been playing very well Allen obviously is ahead of him, same with Ampadu, but not the others for me, certainly not King and Huws |
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Post by manulike on Feb 12, 2020 20:31:00 GMT
On the plane?
#Yes.He.WILL
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 12, 2020 20:36:18 GMT
Sweet strike fair play
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Post by cymru98 on Feb 12, 2020 20:50:14 GMT
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Post by cantonwelsh79 on Feb 12, 2020 21:44:45 GMT
Say what you like about him - he's now a first team regular, on good form at a top half championship club.
Definitely giving himself a chance of a place.
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Post by dai on Feb 12, 2020 22:04:30 GMT
A lot of humble pie will be eaten in June when Vaulks comes off the bench to score a 25 yard winner against Italy in Rome.
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Post by manulike on Feb 12, 2020 23:33:26 GMT
A lot of humble pie will be eaten in June when Vaulks comes off the bench to score a 25 yard winner against Italy in Rome. I only hope that Ryan has the sense to forbid his extravagant somersault celebration - we will need him injury-free for the semis! <!----> |
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Post by quetzal on Feb 13, 2020 0:01:45 GMT
Better than Vinny Jones
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Post by quetzal on Feb 13, 2020 0:05:21 GMT
He was out of his depth in Croatia. Has he been playing well for Cardiff? Allen, Morrell, Ampadu, Smith, King, Huws & Joniesta are all ahead of him for me. He's been playing very well Allen obviously is ahead of him, same with Ampadu, but not the others for me, certainly not King and Huws Huws is a true Welshman though |
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