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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 12, 2020 13:11:46 GMT
I still want to see the James wingback experiment happen - I'd start RND in both competitive games so it's a good time to rest him and try something different. To enable the James experiment I'd start Davies as LCB and take him off at HT I think Gunter starting as captain is confirmation that we'll start with a back 3. It's hard to figure it out with what we'll do with the other CBs with current form/fitness & it's not completely clear which position in the back 3 they'd be favoured, so that will be interesting to see Morrell needs minutes so he starts - for me alongside Sheehan who is worth looking at in a friendly over Levitt. I think Ampadu-Smith will start the Ireland game so best chance for Sheehan to be involved Again with the front 3 it's a bit of a guess. I'm thinking Tyler will most likely start, I'd also give Matondo a game as he looks like he's improving and deserves another cap. Brennan I think we all want to see, and just like Sheehan now is probably the best opportunity to start him Ward Gunter-Lockyer-Davies Neco-Morrell-Sheehan-James Tyler-Brennan-Matondo That backline actually looks solid/experienced and the midfield/forwards young and exciting. Should be an interesting game tonight No Rodon? He could do with the minutes imo. Gunter as captained makes me think Davies isn't starting too. Would personally swap Rodon on for Davies at HT. Rodon has played enough games this season to be ready enough for us with 45 under his belt I’ve always thought Gunter would be given the armband over Davies if both were on the pitch at the same time due to age/seniority/caps. He’s our most experienced player ever, so i’d be amazed if Davies was favoured as captain to be honest
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 12, 2020 13:14:43 GMT
One of Lawrence or Roberts too. Strange that. Surely means Mepham & Lawrence to miss out Mepham has played a lot of football recently. Lawrence to miss out as Tyler will almost certainly be involved in this one, likely to start
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 12, 2020 13:20:42 GMT
One of Lawrence or Roberts too. Strange that. Surely means Mepham & Lawrence to miss out Mepham has played a lot of football recently. Lawrence to miss out as Tyler will almost certainly be involved in this one, likely to start Yep agree with you there. It's a shame for Tom as I felt he'd done more than enough to warrant some gametime against the US but the positive is we will almost certainly see Brennan get a run out.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 12, 2020 13:25:11 GMT
No Rodon? He could do with the minutes imo. Gunter as captained makes me think Davies isn't starting too. Would personally swap Rodon on for Davies at HT. Rodon has played enough games this season to be ready enough for us with 45 under his belt I’ve always thought Gunter would be given the armband over Davies if both were on the pitch at the same time due to age/seniority/caps. He’s our most experienced player ever, so i’d be amazed if Davies was favoured as captain to be honest Would that mean moving Rodon into the centre and Lockyer out to the left then? I could see that if so. Not sure on the latter. I think we should be giving the armband to players who are in the side more regularly. I guess the title is a bit meaningless though when you have several leaders on the pitch, and in the likes of Davies, Bale, Ampadu and Hennessey we usually do.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 12, 2020 13:32:05 GMT
Surely means Mepham & Lawrence to miss out Mepham has played a lot of football recently. Lawrence to miss out as Tyler will almost certainly be involved in this one, likely to start Yep agree with you there. It's a shame for Tom as I felt he'd done more than enough to warrant some gametime against the US but the positive is we will almost certainly see Brennan get a run out. Yeah agree, it is quite competitive to get in our forward line at the moment, which is good to see. Lawrence would be good to see but I would prefer to see what Brennan is about in this instance. I think Lawrence may be hurt in the long run by the fact that we already know what he’s about, so we’ll often pick younger players who can progress rather than give Lawrence more caps. If he moves up a level that could change, but I think he’s stuck in limbo at the moment for us - decent player but not quite good enough for regular minutes ahead of Brooks, Wilson or James, and also not young or exciting enough to want to experiment with ahead of Matondo, Tyler or Brennan Unfortunate for him too as I feel he’s a tidy player who still can go on to be a Premier League player if he matures with consistency in his late 20s
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Post by dai on Nov 12, 2020 13:34:57 GMT
I'm presuming it will be Mepham rested due to Rodon's lack of games.
The Roberts / Lawrence one is a bit odd. I thought Brooks would have been rested for this one given his injury issues.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 12, 2020 13:40:32 GMT
Would personally swap Rodon on for Davies at HT. Rodon has played enough games this season to be ready enough for us with 45 under his belt I’ve always thought Gunter would be given the armband over Davies if both were on the pitch at the same time due to age/seniority/caps. He’s our most experienced player ever, so i’d be amazed if Davies was favoured as captain to be honest Would that mean moving Rodon into the centre and Lockyer out to the left then? I could see that if so. Not sure on the latter. I think we should be giving the armband to players who are in the side more regularly. I guess the title is a bit meaningless though when you have several leaders on the pitch, and in the likes of Davies, Bale, Ampadu and Hennessey we usually do. Yeah I would do it like that personally Just going off the pattern with the armband, if you exclude Wayne in goals, then it has always gone to the most capped player starting the game after Bale. Ramsey had it vs Ireland, Ramsey drops out and it goes to Davies I think it’s quite likely that one of Davies, Bale & Ramsey will start any given game for us and will therefore be the captain. On the rare occasions where Gunter is starting he may get it over Davies, like this occasion, or it may just be that he’s next in line after Davies I personally would give it to Davies as he is Mr Consistent and I value that in a captain, but my comments are based on what I think will happen not personal preference
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Post by dragons on Nov 12, 2020 14:38:10 GMT
That line up looks class.... will be gutted if it’s anything else now 😢😂 I got the predicted lineup correct once - so there’s a chance, albeit a very small one!! Me too....Loving the look of that lineup.
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Post by alarch on Nov 12, 2020 15:23:56 GMT
I still want to see the James wingback experiment happen - I'd start RND in both competitive games so it's a good time to rest him and try something different. To enable the James experiment I'd start Davies as LCB and take him off at HT I think Gunter starting as captain is confirmation that we'll start with a back 3. It's hard to figure it out with what we'll do with the other CBs with current form/fitness & it's not completely clear which position in the back 3 they'd be favoured, so that will be interesting to see Morrell needs minutes so he starts - for me alongside Sheehan who is worth looking at in a friendly over Levitt. I think Ampadu-Smith will start the Ireland game so best chance for Sheehan to be involved Again with the front 3 it's a bit of a guess. I'm thinking Tyler will most likely start, I'd also give Matondo a game as he looks like he's improving and deserves another cap. Brennan I think we all want to see, and just like Sheehan now is probably the best opportunity to start him Ward Gunter-Lockyer-Davies Neco-Morrell-Sheehan-James Tyler-Brennan-Matondo That backline actually looks solid/experienced and the midfield/forwards young and exciting. Should be an interesting game tonight I like the look of that lineup, but I'd be inclined to have a bit more experience in the middle of the park from the off, so I'd risk Amapadu instead of Morrell, with the latter coming on at half-time, accompanied by Smith or Levitt for Sheehan. I suspect Tyler will be held back for the double header rather than Lawrence, in which case the latter plays at least 45 minutes, with Wilson to replace him at some stage.
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Post by manulike on Nov 12, 2020 16:51:10 GMT
Surely means Mepham & Lawrence to miss out Mepham has played a lot of football recently. Lawrence to miss out as Tyler will almost certainly be involved in this one, likely to start Yep agree with you there. It's a shame for Tom as I felt he'd done more than enough to warrant some gametime against the US but the positive is we will almost certainly see Brennan get a run out. Obviously, we are saving Tom for the more important games ;-))
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 12, 2020 16:57:09 GMT
Lawrence has played a lot of football himself, he's started six games in two and a half weeks after coming back from injury for Derby. It's a shame for him as this probably would have been his best opportunity for minutes, but there's every chance that Derby have requested that he doesn't play any game time in the friendly.
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Post by manulike on Nov 12, 2020 17:25:27 GMT
I still want to see the James wingback experiment happen - I'd start RND in both competitive games so it's a good time to rest him and try something different. To enable the James experiment I'd start Davies as LCB and take him off at HT I think Gunter starting as captain is confirmation that we'll start with a back 3. It's hard to figure it out with what we'll do with the other CBs with current form/fitness & it's not completely clear which position in the back 3 they'd be favoured, so that will be interesting to see Morrell needs minutes so he starts - for me alongside Sheehan who is worth looking at in a friendly over Levitt. I think Ampadu-Smith will start the Ireland game so best chance for Sheehan to be involved Again with the front 3 it's a bit of a guess. I'm thinking Tyler will most likely start, I'd also give Matondo a game as he looks like he's improving and deserves another cap. Brennan I think we all want to see, and just like Sheehan now is probably the best opportunity to start him Ward Gunter-Lockyer-Davies Neco-Morrell-Sheehan-James Tyler-Brennan-Matondo That backline actually looks solid/experienced and the midfield/forwards young and exciting. Should be an interesting game tonight I like the look of that lineup, but I'd be inclined to have a bit more experience in the middle of the park from the off, so I'd risk Amapadu instead of Morrell, with the latter coming on at half-time, accompanied by Smith or Levitt for Sheehan. I suspect T yler will be held back for the double header rather than Lawrence, in which case the latter plays at least 45 minutes, with Wilson to replace him at some stage. Think you have a good point there. Remembering that Harry is side-lined for the Sunday game v Ireland, I think 45 minutes for him and Tom make perfect sense.
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Post by iot on Nov 12, 2020 18:35:24 GMT
Very disappointed with that lineup. No sense of experimentation and disappointed to see the two lawrences start when I'm confident neither will amount to anything more than reserve players for us.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 12, 2020 18:35:28 GMT
Odd one is Kieffer starting this game, perhaps he's being left out of the Ireland game? Would have gone for Connor to start against Ireland, and Neco in this one but it isn't the end of the world, Connor will get his opportunity to impress and put himself in contention tonight.
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Post by hal on Nov 12, 2020 18:35:39 GMT
KIEFER MOORE STARTING!!! How idiotic from our management team. He’s looked so tired playing for Cardiff, 2 massive nation league games coming up, our only out and out striker in the squad.
The only thing I can think of is that they aren’t planning on starting him against Ireland and going with a versatile front 3, i.e Brooks Bale James
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 12, 2020 18:37:09 GMT
KIEFER MOORE STARTING!!! How idiotic from our management team. He’s looked so tired playing for Cardiff, 2 massive nation league games coming up, our only out and out striker in the squad. The only thing I can think of is that they aren’t planning on starting him against Ireland and going with a versatile front 3, i.e Brooks Bale James It must be, perhaps they think Shane Duffy's got his number aerially? It would be stupid to start him if they were planning to start him against Ireland, especially given the knock he picked up in the last friendly.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Nov 12, 2020 18:39:57 GMT
Agree with Kieffer probably getting rested vs Ireland. Silly move if not. Sad not to see Brennan in the 11 but hopefully he gets a half. Weird that C.Roberts is playing left back- perhaps Neco gets the second half at left back to share minutes about.
Excited to see Rabbi again- will be extra motivated to be playing vs McKennie no doubt. Think i’ll have Scotland’s game on my phone tho....
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Post by cadno on Nov 12, 2020 18:40:02 GMT
Daft not to call Doidge up!
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Post by hal on Nov 12, 2020 18:40:10 GMT
KIEFER MOORE STARTING!!! How idiotic from our management team. He’s looked so tired playing for Cardiff, 2 massive nation league games coming up, our only out and out striker in the squad. The only thing I can think of is that they aren’t planning on starting him against Ireland and going with a versatile front 3, i.e Brooks Bale James It must be, perhaps they think Shane Duffy's got his number aerially? It would be stupid to start him if they were planning to start him against Ireland, especially given the knock he picked up in the last friendly. Same applies to Connor Roberts I assume. I expect we will go with Neco vs Ireland.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 12, 2020 18:42:03 GMT
It must be, perhaps they think Shane Duffy's got his number aerially? It would be stupid to start him if they were planning to start him against Ireland, especially given the knock he picked up in the last friendly. Same applies to Connor Roberts I assume. I expect we will go with Neco vs Ireland. Yeah presumably, unless they get a half each. If Connor does well enough though he could change the managers mind, he's got the engine to play three games in a week and does it for the Swans no problem.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 12, 2020 18:44:28 GMT
Where’s Meps and Tyler? Indication they are starting on Sunday?
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 12, 2020 18:45:47 GMT
Where’s Meps and Tyler? Indication they are starting on Sunday? Yeah, I'm assuming so.
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Post by manulike on Nov 12, 2020 18:53:01 GMT
No Bale? I can imagine half of the US lunchtime crowd switching off ;-)
Great to see Thomas in there. He will come good, mark my words.
Mystified, as most of you, about the big man starting...
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Post by dai on Nov 12, 2020 18:57:33 GMT
Lot's of questions.
That's a very frustrating lineup, why on earth do we need to revert to James Lawrence when we have a decent selection of CB's?
What is this persistence with Levitt, it's just madness - even Charlton fans say he's a very poor footballer.
Starting Moore after what happened in the England match?!
This is the perfect chance to play Johnson and Sheehan who both are on fire!
Morrell also needs more minutes.
Uninspiring.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Nov 12, 2020 19:01:51 GMT
Lot's of questions. That's a very frustrating lineup, why on earth do we need to revert to James Lawrence when we have a decent selection of CB's? What is this persistence with Levitt, it's just madness - even Charlton fans say he's a very poor footballer. Starting Moore after what happened in the England match?! This is the perfect chance to play Johnson and Sheehan who both are on fire! Morrell also needs more minutes. Uninspiring. Tbf it’s only a friendly, so no need to go too strong, or strong at all in JLaw’s case. I think Levitt’s a very good footballer- just not quite ready physically imo. Agree on the Sheehan and Johnson points. If they don’t get on, then I’ll ask questions....
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Post by iot on Nov 12, 2020 19:08:20 GMT
KIEFER MOORE STARTING!!! How idiotic from our management team. He’s looked so tired playing for Cardiff, 2 massive nation league games coming up, our only out and out striker in the squad. The only thing I can think of is that they aren’t planning on starting him against Ireland and going with a versatile front 3, i.e Brooks Bale James It must be, perhaps they think Shane Duffy's got his number aerially? It would be stupid to start him if they were planning to start him against Ireland, especially given the knock he picked up in the last friendly. Yep, that's how I read it and it does make sense as Moore was completely ineffective against Duffy last time. However, that should be all the more reason to test the 523 formation with the false 9 given we've only played it once over the last couple of years. I think Rodon and Morrell should have started given they've mostly been on the bench since our last fixtures, but I guess the coaching staff will know far better than I ho many minutes each player needs...
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Post by alarch on Nov 12, 2020 19:21:00 GMT
Disappointing selection. We look weak down the spine of the team. Mystified as to why Roberts starts this one. He's in excellent form for the Swans so it would be very strange if Neco is being prioritised for the Nations League matches, given that there are question marks over his defensive capabilities at this early stage in his career. The USA are expected to play a high press, so selecting Moore makes sense in that context. Hope it doesn't mean we overdo it and end up playing like a League Two hoofball outfit.
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Post by hooky on Nov 12, 2020 19:40:21 GMT
Gunter an Lawrence - why? What is the point?
This will not be fun to watch from a Welsh perspective.
I'd really love to see Johnson and this is the sort of game where he should be tested.
I hope Page is not viewing these games as an audition for the main job. He hopefully is nowhere near it but could play if safe if he figures he has a chance.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Nov 12, 2020 19:48:42 GMT
Bale not named on the bench either.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Nov 12, 2020 19:51:14 GMT
Pitch looks a bit worn do they play rugby at that ground?
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