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Post by cadno on Nov 10, 2014 18:06:06 GMT
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Post by nathan1710 on Nov 10, 2014 21:22:29 GMT
Great news. I think he would slot straight in at Everton myself.
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Post by gaz on Nov 10, 2014 21:43:49 GMT
Would prefer him to stay at fulham getting game time for now under kit symons than move to a premiership reserve side an stagnate as unlikely he will be signed to be starting games.
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Post by ozziejay8 on Nov 10, 2014 23:17:54 GMT
I knew this was coming! Top player. if he does move soon, I hope he doesn't left out of squads and line ups. Players getting game time is key at the moment..
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Post by welshiron on Nov 11, 2014 8:49:35 GMT
Maybe he will sign for a club like Everton and be loaned back for the rest of the season
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Post by llannerch on Nov 11, 2014 9:19:37 GMT
Maybe he will sign for a club like Everton and be loaned back for the rest of the season Everton would be a good fit. A loan back would be ideal. He needs to play games, preferably from the start rather than appearances from the subshack
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Post by texan on Nov 11, 2014 9:59:48 GMT
Would prefer him to stay at fulham getting game time for now under kit symons than move to a premiership reserve side an stagnate as unlikely he will be signed to be starting games. Agree, sign him up in January on an immediate loan-back scheme by all means, or go for him next summer. But whatever happens he should at least see out this season in a Fulham shirt, will do him good.
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Post by toshfan on Nov 11, 2014 10:44:31 GMT
I think that any one of (i) staying longer at Fulham, (ii) signing for Everton but loaned back to Fulham or (iii) signing for Swansea but loaned back to Fulham would be decent outcomes.
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Post by richierich333 on Nov 11, 2014 10:54:30 GMT
Bags of potential. I think Wenger could turn him into a special player so Arsenal for me even if he doesn't walk straight into the team. I'm sure Ramsey's raving about him and if they're scouting him they must have asked Rambo what he's like (attitude in training, commitment etc.)
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Post by alarch on Nov 11, 2014 11:28:53 GMT
So which of Sanchez, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott or Cazorla would you drop for George Williams? He would vanish for years, possibly never to be seen again.
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Post by richierich333 on Nov 11, 2014 11:48:53 GMT
So which of Sanchez, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott or Cazorla would you drop for George Williams? He would vanish for years, possibly never to be seen again. Yes yes that's the spirit! I love the way you initially say 'Would vanish' implying that this is factual and then immediately after state 'possibly' implying that you acknowledge that your statement was guess work all along.
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Post by nathan1710 on Nov 11, 2014 12:49:08 GMT
So which of Sanchez, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott or Cazorla would you drop for George Williams? He would vanish for years, possibly never to be seen again. Yes yes that's the spirit! I love the way you initially say 'Would vanish' implying that this is factual and then immediately after state 'possibly' implying that you acknowledge that your statement was guess work all along. You kind of side stepped the question. Well played though
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Post by llannerch on Nov 11, 2014 12:57:48 GMT
Bags of potential. I think Wenger could turn him into a special player so Arsenal for me even if he doesn't walk straight into the team. I'm sure Ramsey's raving about him and if they're scouting him they must have asked Rambo what he's like (attitude in training, commitment etc.) Genuine question: who was the last player that Wenger turned into a special one? He's losing his touch, perhaps even lost it.
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Post by richierich333 on Nov 11, 2014 13:06:32 GMT
The apprehensions about Arsenal are understandable but wouldn't it be good to see the team sheet with another big premier league club player there. Psychological with regards to the opponent too if they see:
Bale - Real Madrid Allen - Liverpool Ben Davies - Tottenham Ramsey - Arsenal G Williams - Arsenal
Come on! This looks looks good you have to admit
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Post by matty on Nov 11, 2014 13:14:39 GMT
Bags of potential. I think Wenger could turn him into a special player so Arsenal for me even if he doesn't walk straight into the team. I'm sure Ramsey's raving about him and if they're scouting him they must have asked Rambo what he's like (attitude in training, commitment etc.) Genuine question: who was the last player that Wenger turned into a special one? He's losing his touch, perhaps even lost it. He's turned plenty into "the crooked one", he hasn't lost his touch there.
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Post by richierich333 on Nov 11, 2014 13:29:24 GMT
Yes yes that's the spirit! I love the way you initially say 'Would vanish' implying that this is factual and then immediately after state 'possibly' implying that you acknowledge that your statement was guess work all along. You kind of side stepped the question. Well played though If you read my first post it actually said 'I understand that he may not walk straight into the team' so I never implied he would take any of their starting XI places.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 11, 2014 14:01:53 GMT
I'd hate to see George Williams at Arsenal. He'd spend 8 of the next 10 years injured...
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Post by abwales on Nov 11, 2014 14:15:14 GMT
I'd like to see him go nowhere, there's no need to rush. For a player his age being a regular in the championship is much better than being a sub in the premier league.
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Post by alarch on Nov 11, 2014 14:33:32 GMT
For a Swansea fan this is very familiar territory. The number of players who have secured moves to "bigger" clubs and disappeared without trace is incredible. Remember Dorus De Vries, Darren Pratley, Jason Scotland? Precisely...
The other excellent example is Sigurdsson. He was excellent on loan for Swansea during the latter part of their first season in the Premier League. Swansea wanted to sign him permanently from Hoffenheim, but he was attracted first to the bright lights of Liverpool, before switching at the last minute to Spurs. His time at Spurs was dismal, which is hardly surprising seeing that he spent much of his meagre game time on the wing. On his return to Swansea he's back in his best position and he's picked things up as if he's never been away. Shame about the wasted two seasons in between...
It's understandable that players are attracted by the status and enhanced earnings to be had at bigger clubs, but unless your credentials are very strong the chances are you're going to join as a squad player, and there's no guarantee you will get decent game time, and even then you might not be played in your optimal position. In a short space of time you can become a forgotten man. Ben Davies may be the latest Swansea player to learn this harsh lesson.
Bale's move to Real Madrid was perfectly timed. Had he gone any sooner he would probably have been in and out of the side, and possibly struggling to prove his credentials. With his price tag there was no way he was going to be anything other than a regular starter. That's the model that our up-and-coming talents should seek to emulate. Prove yourself to all and sundry - then move. George Williams has overtaken Tom Lawrence for Wales - and much of that must be down to the regular game time he's getting at Championship level that Lawrence is no longer getting.
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Post by Tim P on Nov 11, 2014 14:34:57 GMT
I'd like to see him go nowhere, there's no need to rush. For a player his age being a regular in the championship is much better than being a sub in the premier league. But on the other hand, the bad habits and backwards training he'll get at that level won't help him develop.
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Post by abwales on Nov 11, 2014 22:47:01 GMT
I'd like to see him go nowhere, there's no need to rush. For a player his age being a regular in the championship is much better than being a sub in the premier league. But on the other hand, the bad habits and backwards training he'll get at that level won't help him develop. At the moment he has the perfect manager. Someone who has known him for the last couple of years and someone who'll know what he needs to do and what he doesn't need to do. Plus Kit is an FAW trained coach... you can't get better than that! Stuff the premier league for now.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 12, 2014 0:18:51 GMT
I'd absolutely hate to see George go to Arsenal or Spurs. I'm hoping West Ham get hold of him. He'll get games and they'll make something out of him before he's sold to a bigger club, at a time where he'll get straight into their sides
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Post by biwmares on Nov 12, 2014 0:20:37 GMT
I'd hate to see George Williams at Arsenal. He'd spend 8 of the next 10 years injured... And no doubt slagged off by the very knowledgable Arsenal fans on that Talksport.
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Post by ramsey on Nov 12, 2014 5:32:20 GMT
This is Arsenal not Chelsea or Spurs. If Wenger wants him then he's going to get his chances.
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Post by melynwy on Nov 12, 2014 11:23:15 GMT
" In a short space of time you can become a forgotten man. Ben Davies may be the latest Swansea player to learn this harsh lesson. . I'd say Vorm is the latest casualty
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Post by alarch on Nov 12, 2014 12:19:58 GMT
Vorm would have been a reserve keeper if he'd stayed. In fact he's likely to get more game time at Spurs given their Europa League commitments.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Nov 12, 2014 12:26:17 GMT
If he does choose to leave Fulham we could do with him at palace we give youngsters games.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Nov 12, 2014 12:30:57 GMT
If he does choose to leave Fulham we could do with him at palace we give youngsters games. In the same way they have done for Joniesta?
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Nov 12, 2014 12:45:36 GMT
If he does choose to leave Fulham we could do with him at palace we give youngsters games. In the same way they have done for Joniesta? Ye bro I know he is on loan but he is involved granted he is a sub but he usually gets game time and was given the opportunity to progress at clubs like Chelsea it would never have happened. He should never have been allowed to go out on loan, whenever he is on the pitch he is our main threat.
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Post by richierich333 on Nov 12, 2014 13:05:10 GMT
" In a short space of time you can become a forgotten man. Ben Davies may be the latest Swansea player to learn this harsh lesson. . I'd say Vorm is the latest casualty What harsh lesson? bloody hell Davies has only been there a few months plus he starts every game in a competitive European tournament. Who has forgotten about him? He's still eligible for the under 21's so he's only a kid by PL standards!
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