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Post by jimexotic on Aug 18, 2023 20:44:16 GMT
Still rusty. My brother in law is a Forest fan and I was talking to him the other day, the best case scenario is for him to spend the next two weeks just getting up to speed, putting off potential buyers only for him to start picking up form once the window closes.
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Post by manulike on Aug 19, 2023 15:02:41 GMT
I actually thought Brennan had a great game and some of his runs to the by-line and cutbacks were brilliant - one led to the goal. He actually pressed really well also.
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Post by bale-droed on Aug 19, 2023 15:37:35 GMT
I actually thought Brennan had a great game and some of his runs to the by-line and cutbacks were brilliant - one led to the goal. He actually pressed really well also. I agree. He was absolutely brilliant last night. I think he should stay at Nottingham but after last night Chelsea will step up their efforts |
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Post by morg on Aug 24, 2023 14:00:44 GMT
Spurs now in the frame. I'd be happy with that.
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 24, 2023 16:54:30 GMT
Spurs would be an excellent move, especially under Ange
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Post by manulike on Aug 24, 2023 20:10:28 GMT
I refuse to support a move to the spuds ;-(
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Post by cynonvalley on Aug 27, 2023 13:09:38 GMT
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Post by dai on Aug 27, 2023 14:11:41 GMT
Have to admit, I’m very surprised that teams like Spurs and Chelsea are after him. He was quite underwhelming last season and has been pretty poor so far this season.
Readind the Forest forum, it seems they’re not fussed about selling either now which shows he ineffective he’s been atbthis
Level. He has a LOT to learn and improve upon imo.
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Post by spiritof16 on Aug 27, 2023 14:20:30 GMT
Have to admit, I’m very surprised that teams like Spurs and Chelsea are after him. He was quite underwhelming last season and has been pretty poor so far this season. Readind the Forest forum, it seems they’re not fussed about selling either now which shows he ineffective he’s been atbthis Level. He has a LOT to learn and improve upon imo. He was the third highest scorer aged 21 and under behind Saka and Martinelli who were playing for a team top of the league most of the season. 8 goals, 3 assists in a struggling side. Second fastest player of the season officially. Stats aside he looked an absolute class act at times. Added to that as a teenager he scored 20 odd goals for Leyton Orient two seasons ago and then did the same for forest the following year to help them get promoted. He’s also been very impressive for Wales when given the chance. |
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Post by dai on Aug 27, 2023 15:32:06 GMT
Have to admit, I’m very surprised that teams like Spurs and Chelsea are after him. He was quite underwhelming last season and has been pretty poor so far this season. Readind the Forest forum, it seems they’re not fussed about selling either now which shows he ineffective he’s been atbthis Level. He has a LOT to learn and improve upon imo. He was the third highest scorer aged 21 and under behind Saka and Martinelli who were playing for a team top of the league most of the season. 8 goals, 3 assists in a struggling side. Second fastest player of the season officially. Stats aside he looked an absolute class act at times. Added to that as a teenager he scored 20 odd goals for Leyton Orient two seasons ago and then did the same for forest the following year to help them get promoted. He’s also been very impressive for Wales when given the chance. Fair points, and I agree with and disagree. In contrast to his 8 goals and assists, he’s also been completely anonymous for large portions of the season. Being 2nd fastest player doesn’t mean anything Im afraid. Look at D James, speed merchant but has struggled at PL level after his Utd exit. Dont get me wrong, he’s a very talented player and has an eye for the goal. However his work ethic is questionable and actually comes across quite lazy or tackle shy at times. Let’s not forget he was dropped for the end stage of last season, where proper graft was required, and Forest fared very well without him in the starting lineup. It seems like he doesn’t fancy the hard graft required. But thats just my opinion. For me, he hasn't really lived up to the hype at this level. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 27, 2023 21:27:06 GMT
To call his first season in the PL underwhelming when he hit double figures for goal contributions in a relegation candidate team is a complete mis-categorisation in my opinion
It's fine to say he has things to work on, but in terms of young attackers he was right up there in terms of performance/output last season across all the European top flights. We absolutely should not be criticising him for not yet being a complete player at this stage of his career
For now he's our best prospect, the heir to Bale, and will more than likely be our best player by the time we reach the next World Cup
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Post by jimexotic on Aug 28, 2023 11:31:29 GMT
To call his first season in the PL underwhelming when he hit double figures for goal contributions in a relegation candidate team is a complete mis-categorisation in my opinion It's fine to say he has things to work on, but in terms of young attackers he was right up there in terms of performance/output last season across all the European top flights. We absolutely should not be criticising him for not yet being a complete player at this stage of his career For now he's our best prospect, the heir to Bale, and will more than likely be our best player by the time we reach the next World Cup Love your optimism at the end there man!  Brennan is doing well and although I would like Brennan to stay at Forest because I have family in Nottingham who love him, I wouldn't mind seeing him go to Spurs because I rate the manager, he strikes me as the kind of guy that would really get the best out of him. He did in an interview recently where he said that he likes his teams to play attractive attacking football, "the only way I know how" or something he said. That suits Brennan, even if he has to bide his time a bit to become a regular. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 28, 2023 12:51:26 GMT
Looks like the interest is concrete! I do wonder whether he might be used on both sides of the pitch, at first probably as a back up to Son & Kulusevski. There has been suggestion that Son isn't playing that well as a traditional winger and that Kulusevski could be used in midfield as an alternative 10 to Maddison - and that Richarlison hasn't hit the ground running meaning Son could be used inside
Not a great fan of him moving somewhere he may not start regularly, but I do think he will get regular minutes still, and the manager is good and loves attacking wingers which is positive
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Post by iot on Aug 28, 2023 15:38:56 GMT
To call his first season in the PL underwhelming when he hit double figures for goal contributions in a relegation candidate team is a complete mis-categorisation in my opinion It's fine to say he has things to work on, but in terms of young attackers he was right up there in terms of performance/output last season across all the European top flights. We absolutely should not be criticising him for not yet being a complete player at this stage of his career For now he's our best prospect, the heir to Bale, and will more than likely be our best player by the time we reach the next World Cup Love your optimism at the end there man! Brennan is doing well and although I would like Brennan to stay at Forest because I have family in Nottingham who love him, I wouldn't mind seeing him go to Spurs because I rate the manager, he strikes me as the kind of guy that would really get the best out of him. He did in an interview recently where he said that he likes his teams to play attractive attacking football, "the only way I know how" or something he said. That suits Brennan, even if he has to bide his time a bit to become a regular. Is that a good match for his style though? I think Brennan's much more effective as a counter-attacking threat against high defensive lines where he can run in behind. If Spurs are going to be an attacking, possession-based side, he'll likely come up against low blocks with no space behind. |
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Post by surge on Aug 28, 2023 18:35:08 GMT
It's a bit difficult to know what sort of player Brennan Johnson is becoming at the moment. There are players like Odegaard and Gibbs-White who are involved in everything, players like Ollie Watkins and Haaland who barely touch the ball but can act as a focal point but I don't think Johnson is either at the moment - nor do I want him to become either.
He's 22 going on 23 with lots of potential and lots to work on. I think Spurs under Ange Postecoglou is a good move (whereas I would have major doubts over move to Chelsea) but could also be a bit of pressure to deliver straight away in an unhelpful way.
Regarding Spurs' style, one could argue that Bale* struggled a bit in first season at Madrid because his ball skills weren't as high as La Liga required but he was still effective (good teams will create space a la counter-attacks) and he became a much better player for upskilling.
*comparison is relevant even if it not always is when comparing a Welsh player with high potential to previous superstar.
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Post by cynonvalley on Aug 28, 2023 20:25:09 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 28, 2023 22:31:30 GMT
All the noises suggesting Forest are due to accept a £50 million offer from Spurs. I mean the one thing I can say is there will be pressure for him to be played with a fee like that
Long term I think this is a good move for Wales even if it's perhaps not the best thing in the short term
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Post by hooky on Aug 29, 2023 8:13:43 GMT
I have talked Brennan up for the last few years as special. Not at Bale or Ramsey's level at his age but at a level just below. I was however disappointed at how his season ended with him losing his place and the well publicised way he just drifts out of games and perhaps lacks an elite player's work ethic
I was against him moving to a top 6 team at this stage in his career but as stated here, Spurs are hardly going to pay towards £50mn for him and not play him. Having an exposure to a new manager and better coaching set up, playing with better players and having to fight for his place may just push him to the next level.
Maybe it is just what he needs right now. Not sure he merits the opportunity right now but you must grab your chances in this life on those rare occasions they emerge!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2023 8:55:07 GMT
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Post by iot on Aug 29, 2023 9:57:54 GMT
I have talked Brennan up for the last few years as special. Not at Bale or Ramsey's level at his age but at a level just below. I was however disappointed at how his season ended with him losing his place and the well publicised way he just drifts out of games and perhaps lacks an elite player's work ethic I was against him moving to a top 6 team at this stage in his career but as stated here, Spurs are hardly going to pay towards £50mn for him and not play him. Having an exposure to a new manager and better coaching set up, playing with better players and having to fight for his place may just push him to the next level. Maybe it is just what he needs right now. Not sure he merits the opportunity right now but you must grab your chances in this life on those rare occasions they emerge! Looks like the move will happen. I get your point that having splashed out £50m, it's probably with a view of him being a starting player, but he still needs to earn his place ahead of Richarlison or Kulusevski. He hasn't shown he's above that level to date, and also don't forget that Spurs paid £50m rising to £60m for Richarlison last season, and I don't think he started 5 league games, so I'm not sure how much you can read into the fee. |
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 30, 2023 11:22:39 GMT
Word is Spurs are in for Ansu Fati on loan from Barca. People are getting giddy with the mention of Spurs and Chelsea, forgetting how these two clubs have stalled both Ampadu & Rodon's career progress.
IMO Brennan should stay put for this season at least, he's playing regular games and the reported £50m price tag is no longer "guaranteed starter" money, but a price of doing business for a promising homegrown player.
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Post by garynysmon on Aug 30, 2023 11:57:37 GMT
Word is Spurs are in for Ansu Fati on loan from Barca. People are getting giddy with the mention of Spurs and Chelsea, forgetting how these two clubs have stalled both Ampadu & Rodon's career progress. Ampadu was bought by Chelsea as a punt as he was promising, despite the chances of him ever breaking through there always being slim. Rodon was bought by Spurs with the expecation that he would compete for a first team place. In all honesty Rodon never looked comfortable in the Premier League and it can't be a coincidence that a series of managers didn't fancy him. It was Leeds that came in for him now rather than any Premier League club. I wouldn't use Joe Rodon as a reason why Brennan Johnson, who's already a PL player, shouldn't go there. |
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 30, 2023 17:50:31 GMT
Is Brennan not being bought with the expectation that he'll compete for a first-team place?
Don't read too much into "already a PL player", he's a promising young forward with a single season of PL experience, rather than an established top-flight goalscorer who would command a starting position. He could be out of favour and slip through the cracks quite easily at this stage of his career.
The best advice for our most promising player at this stage would be to stay put or aim for a Europa League side to build on experience rather than become a top 6 benchwarmer/loan magnet.
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Post by iot on Aug 30, 2023 18:12:08 GMT
He's on the bench tonight which should mean that he's fit for us unless history repeats itself!
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Post by jimexotic on Aug 31, 2023 8:14:58 GMT
I'd take him at West Ham, toughen him up and get him ready to take over the Michail Antonio role, that would benefit Wales enormously too, a fast and powerful striker that can pull out wide and bring others into the game.
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Post by 60sred on Aug 31, 2023 12:11:42 GMT
Sort of get what you are saying about Brennan playing down the middle. i see him more of a 10 playing off a big man as his hold up play is not great and if he is getting bullied by full backs cant see it improving against more physical centre backs. The spurs deal i dont think is going to go through with Brennan coming on as a sub last night. He may still be available in the winter transfer window. If you were able to sign him you might have one of the best front 4 in the league if you get Brennan running off the likes of Antonio Benrahma & Bowen
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Aug 31, 2023 19:51:59 GMT
A move to Spurs for Brennan looking increasingly less likely? Steve Cooper hoping to have him lining up for Forest as usual over the weekend coming.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 1, 2023 11:37:16 GMT
A move to Spurs for Brennan looking increasingly less likely? Steve Cooper hoping to have him lining up for Forest as usual over the weekend coming. |
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Post by janglingjack on Sept 1, 2023 12:12:56 GMT
No interest in celtic so never watched them but i have watched a few games of spurs since that aussie/greek fella whose name i can't spell or be bothered to google took over,Brennan will fit that team like a glove,i think spurs are going to be a force in the coming years.
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Post by saturn9 on Sept 1, 2023 12:28:33 GMT
Fab tweeted this morning that the deal SHOULD be sealed today👍
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