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Post by jj1992 on Dec 2, 2019 2:56:08 GMT
We changed flights in Istanbul when we went to Bosnia a few years ago. If you plan on not leaving the airport then you will not need a visa Yeah we went to the recent game with Pegasus and Buta and can confirm no Turkish visa required if you stay in the airport  Same combinations as you, just have checked luggage which adds the complication, it’s never easy with Wales haha |
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Post by 1983 on Dec 2, 2019 10:29:45 GMT
Rome slightly cheaper way for game and see a bit of Italia
Friday Stanstead to Pisa £118 return
Train to Florence 1hr about £10
Friday/Saturday x2 nights in a funky looking hostel called plus Florence £15 a night
Sunday train to Rome 2hr'ish about £20 and B&B £20
Monday train back to Pisa just over 3hrs short change at Florence £30
Bucket hat at the ready
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Post by Liam Geraghty on Dec 2, 2019 13:05:27 GMT
Got flights to Baku sorted, what's the easiest (cheapest) way to get to Rome ?
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 2, 2019 13:26:03 GMT
Got flights to Baku sorted, what's the easiest (cheapest) way to get to Rome ? Prices are going up all time..... We have decided to go Cardiff -Dublin -Istanbul-Baku for £300 takes 9 hours in total |
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 2, 2019 13:27:40 GMT
We’re doing 6 days in Baku then heading to Istanbul for two days before flying to Rome for 2 days then back to Cardiff via Dublin
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Post by Liam Geraghty on Dec 2, 2019 14:03:32 GMT
Got flights to Baku sorted, what's the easiest (cheapest) way to get to Rome ? sorry was meant to add, flights from Baku |
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Post by manulike on Dec 2, 2019 22:11:08 GMT
Got flights to Baku sorted, what's the easiest (cheapest) way to get to Rome ? Cheapest are Ryan Air or Wizz air from KUTAISI to BOLOGNA on the 20th - both still £24 + £8 for luggage.
Wizz departs at 7am and Ryan Air arrives at 11pm - so neither particularly convenient...
Overnight train to Tbilisi is £15 sleeper - but you can also fly from Baku to TBS for around £40 / 3 daily with Buta Air. Bus from TBS airport to Kutaisi airport around £10 3-hours.
More enjoyable (and my choice)
Buta Air to TBS on morning of 18th - £40 - arrive TBS 1040
Overnight Train from TBS to YEREVAN at 2020 - wake up to the magnificent site of Mt Ararat at 0630 - £15 in a 4-bed cabin or £22 in a 2-bed.
If you don't fancy the train, Tbilisi to Yerevan is a little over 5 hours in a shared marshrutka / £10.
Fly YEREVAN to ROME on 20th for £62+£8 for luggage on Ryan Air - Dept at 1pm and arrive Rome 3pm - day before match - MUCH BETTER TIMES ;-)
if money is less of a concern Fly with Buta Air afternoon of 19 to TBS - two hour stop-over and then connect onto the Georgian Airline flight to Bologna at 18:30 arriving Bologna at 20:30 - £142 + £40 for Buta Air ...
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Post by manulike on Dec 2, 2019 22:46:55 GMT
GOING OUT to BAKU from BRISTOL
Dept Tuesday 9th to Milan. Arrive 2320. Ryan Air £24
Airport hotel around €60 for double - PM ME, IF YOU FANCY SHARING ...
Transfer to Bergamo - circa €16
Depart BERGAMO on Wednesday Ryan Air to TBILISI - £80 Train overnight to Baku on Thur at 2020 arrive Baku Friday 0800 - £15
TOTAL including two over-nights Milan/Tbilisi and Trains: €220
If you are from mid wales, then use Ryan Air from EAST MIDS airport ...
Tuesday to BERGAMO arrive 4.30pm = £25
stay in a cheapish hostel - +/- €20
Dept Bergamo to Tbilisi on Wednesday, as above
FASTEST ROUTE WEDS from East Mids on RA to RIGA - 1725-2205 for £51 ONE-HOUR STOP OVER WEDS at 2305 arrive TBILISI THURSDAY 0330 on BALTIC for £96 TOTAL £147 Add over-night train, as above...
NB - If you do the one-hour stop over option, I'd recommend using KIWI.COM - for some peace of mind. Will cost you £20 more, but just Google "kiwi.com discount voucher code" and get €15 OFF ...
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 3, 2019 7:32:04 GMT
All in all it’s cost us £1200 flying from Cardiff to Dublin then to Istanbul and Baku. 6 days in Baku then two nights in Istanbul before flying to Rome for Two nights then home to Cardiff via Dublin .This includes 7 flights and ten days decent hotels
Istanbul looks very nice down by the waterfront area packed with bars and restaurants etc. Having done Baku the last trip I have to say it’s not as appealing as it should be but needs must.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 3, 2019 8:03:59 GMT
Word of warning, Wizz air don’t always sell single tickets, you often have to buy a return. Sky scanner doesn’t tell you this.
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Post by eppingblue1 on Dec 3, 2019 9:48:21 GMT
Just done a bit of research for the R16 assuming we're there as a third placed team. Well its 30% in Bilbao, 20% Glasgow or 50% Bucharest. That's not too bad. Plenty of flights to Bucharest these days they'll be cheap as chips. I was half right. Wizzair alone have a total of 15 flights from Gatwick, Luton and Southend. But they're already pretty much at £ 100 each way bar a few. Christ knows where they'll be with 2 days notice.
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 3, 2019 13:13:14 GMT
Just done a bit of research for the R16 assuming we're there as a third placed team. Well its 30% in Bilbao, 20% Glasgow or 50% Bucharest. That's not too bad. Plenty of flights to Bucharest these days they'll be cheap as chips. I was half right. Wizzair alone have a total of 15 flights from Gatwick, Luton and Southend. But they're already pretty much at £ 100 each way bar a few. Christ knows where they'll be with 2 days notice. Good info. How did you calculate this? |
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 3, 2019 14:18:35 GMT
Any recommendations of areas to stay in Rome? Somewhere central ideally with good links to the stadium.
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Post by ger93 on Dec 3, 2019 15:32:31 GMT
Sorted flights for the group games. Came to about £600 total Leg 1: London Heathrow - Istanbul Leg 2: Istanbul - Baku Leg 3: Baku - Istanbul Leg 4: Istanbul - Rome Leg 5: Rome - Vienna Leg 6: Vienna - London Heathrow Anyone else doing a similar route? Just to sort the final rounds then after these group games |
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 3, 2019 15:38:13 GMT
Any recommendations of areas to stay in Rome? Somewhere central ideally with good links to the stadium. We are quite a large group so finding somewhere that could hold us all was more important! Transport links quite good in the city |
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Post by manulike on Dec 3, 2019 15:55:08 GMT
Just done a bit of research for the R16 assuming we're there as a third placed team. Well its 30% in Bilbao, 20% Glasgow or 50% Bucharest. That's not too bad. Plenty of flights to Bucharest these days they'll be cheap as chips. I was half right. Wizzair alone have a total of 15 flights from Gatwick, Luton and Southend. But they're already pretty much at £ 100 each way bar a few. Christ knows where they'll be with 2 days notice. Good info. How did you calculate this? As far as I understand it, if we do end up 3rd, we have a 1/3 chance of Bucharest game and a 1/4 chance in each of Glasgow/Bilbao? Why do you think that there is more chance of being in Bilbao than in Glasgow? |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 3, 2019 16:00:15 GMT
Any recommendations of areas to stay in Rome? Somewhere central ideally with good links to the stadium. We are quite a large group so finding somewhere that could hold us all was more important! Transport links quite good in the city We managed to find somewhere by the colosseum that holds 10 of us. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 3, 2019 16:12:35 GMT
Yeah we are between the Coliseum and the train station
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 3, 2019 16:21:49 GMT
Any recommendations of areas to stay in Rome? Somewhere central ideally with good links to the stadium. Trastevera seems to be the central area with bars and restaurants close to most things and has links to stadium |
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Post by sleepy on Dec 3, 2019 16:44:30 GMT
Good info. How did you calculate this? As far as I understand it, if we do end up 3rd, we have a 1/3 chance of Bucharest game and a 1/4 chance in each of Glasgow/Bilbao? Why do you think that there is more chance of being in Bilbao than in Glasgow? Do you recall in 2016 that if we finished 3rd we had a 90% chance of a last-16 game in Lille. I have no idea how this 90% figure came about, would it not be a 90% chance of 1 of the venues this time around? |
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Post by manulike on Dec 3, 2019 16:59:31 GMT
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Post by eppingblue1 on Dec 3, 2019 18:35:12 GMT
Good info. How did you calculate this? As far as I understand it, if we do end up 3rd, we have a 1/3 chance of Bucharest game and a 1/4 chance in each of Glasgow/Bilbao? Why do you think that there is more chance of being in Bilbao than in Glasgow? As per the table you've referred to. There are 15 play off possibilities 10 of which include a play off possibility from group A. 3 of those possibilities are against the winners of group B in Bilbao. 2 are against the winners of group E in Glasgow. The remaining 5 are against the winners of group E in Bucharest. Probably Belgium, Germany / France or Spain respectfully. After the play offs you'll probably have pretty good punt on which teams will be the worst 3rd place teams. Cant see the team in with France Germany or Portugal getting any points and a significant goal deficit. |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Dec 3, 2019 18:43:28 GMT
As far as I understand it, if we do end up 3rd, we have a 1/3 chance of Bucharest game and a 1/4 chance in each of Glasgow/Bilbao? Why do you think that there is more chance of being in Bilbao than in Glasgow? As per the table you've referred to. There are 15 play off possibilities 10 of which include a play off possibility from group A. 3 of those possibilities are against the winners of group B in Bilbao. 2 are against the winners of group E in Glasgow. The remaining 5 are against the winners of group E in Bucharest. Probably Belgium, Germany / France or Spain respectfully. After the play offs you'll probably have pretty good punt on which teams will be the worst 3rd place teams. Cant see the team in with France Germany or Portugal getting any points and a significant goal deficit. There's fair chance you could progress to the knockout with no points but a slightly better goal difference. |
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Post by pendragon on Dec 3, 2019 19:35:15 GMT
I reckon I'll be travelling with Wonky Sheep next year.
Noticed they have a trip lined up for the Italy game and wondering what the chances of a Baku trip are. Reckon the double-fixture over there might pose logistical issues for them.
Does anyone know whether they fielded a trip for the away Euro 2020 fixture to Baku last month? Only asking because I've never travelled with them before.
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 3, 2019 19:35:56 GMT
As far as I understand it, if we do end up 3rd, we have a 1/3 chance of Bucharest game and a 1/4 chance in each of Glasgow/Bilbao? Why do you think that there is more chance of being in Bilbao than in Glasgow? As per the table you've referred to. There are 15 play off possibilities 10 of which include a play off possibility from group A. 3 of those possibilities are against the winners of group B in Bilbao. 2 are against the winners of group E in Glasgow. The remaining 5 are against the winners of group E in Bucharest. Probably Belgium, Germany / France or Spain respectfully. After the play offs you'll probably have pretty good punt on which teams will be the worst 3rd place teams. Cant see the team in with France Germany or Portugal getting any points and a significant goal deficit. What if they all draw against each other and beat the 4th team in the group? All on 4 points? Down to GD I guess? |
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Post by cantonwelsh79 on Dec 3, 2019 20:13:46 GMT
I reckon I'll be travelling with Wonky Sheep next year. Noticed they have a trip lined up for the Italy game and wondering what the chances of a Baku trip are. Reckon the double-fixture over there might pose logistical issues for them. Does anyone know whether they fielded a trip for the away Euro 2020 fixture to Baku last month? Only asking because I've never travelled with them before. Yes, they ran a few different trips to Baku- from Manchester, London and chartered a flight from Cardiff. You pay well over the odds for them but I suppose its pretty much hassle free. (That Italy trip they're looks a bit steep to. Me mind!) People I spoke to who used them for Baku and China were full of praise for them. |
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Post by pendragon on Dec 3, 2019 20:33:41 GMT
I reckon I'll be travelling with Wonky Sheep next year. Noticed they have a trip lined up for the Italy game and wondering what the chances of a Baku trip are. Reckon the double-fixture over there might pose logistical issues for them. Does anyone know whether they fielded a trip for the away Euro 2020 fixture to Baku last month? Only asking because I've never travelled with them before. Yes, they ran a few different trips to Baku- from Manchester, London and chartered a flight from Cardiff. You pay well over the odds for them but I suppose its pretty much hassle free. (That Italy trip they're looks a bit steep to. Me mind!) People I spoke to who used them for Baku and China were full of praise for them. Yeah, they do look very expensive! 😮 But it looks as though I'll be going solo next year, so I reckon Wonky is probably the most suitable, especially if I end up going to Baku! I guess when you factor in flights, breakfast and spending money perhaps it isn't as bad as all that (at least I hope!). I guess it's also a great opportunity to meet other fans and have a laugh! Looks like fun. I'm going to try and get some tickets first though! 😀 |
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Post by manulike on Dec 3, 2019 21:35:22 GMT
As far as I understand it, if we do end up 3rd, we have a 1/3 chance of Bucharest game and a 1/4 chance in each of Glasgow/Bilbao? Why do you think that there is more chance of being in Bilbao than in Glasgow? As per the table you've referred to. There are 15 play off possibilities 10 of which include a play off possibility from group A. 3 of those possibilities are against the winners of group B in Bilbao. 2 are against the winners of group E in Glasgow. The remaining 5 are against the winners of group F in Bucharest. Probably Belgium, Germany / France or Spain respectfully. After the play offs you'll probably have pretty good punt on which teams will be the worst 3rd place teams. Cant see the team in with France Germany or Portugal getting any points and a significant goal deficit. Thanks. Now that makes sense.
Pretty sure we are going to win the group and go back to London ... but would certainly love beating Germany/France in Bucharest and then going to St Petersburg ;-)
#ITS.WRITTEN.IN.THE.STARS #WHITE.NIGHTS.IN.ST.PETE
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Post by manulike on Dec 3, 2019 21:44:15 GMT
UPDATE RE CHEAP HOSTEL IN BILBAO
It doesn't really appeal to me (my dorm limit is 4) but if you don't mind sharing a 12-bed dorm there is one called All Iron Hostel. quite central and loads of info on booking.com - AVAILABLE WITH NO DOWN PAYMENT FOR €16/NIGHT
BOOK DIRECT HERE -
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Post by barneycat1 on Dec 4, 2019 14:28:48 GMT
Flights seem to be going up in price daily
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