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Post by dai on Jan 5, 2024 8:31:10 GMT
Willing to bet a reasonably amount of money that he’ll only get off the bench half a dozen times or less, if that. I’d preferred to have seen him finish off the season and Dundee playing for games and build on that. To be honest, if he has half a dozen or so appearances for the side top of the Premiership, with Europa, Fa cup and Carabao cup games to come, it will be a nice addition to the half a season in the Scottish premiership. Great bit of progress at his age. I have to disagree. He's 21 now and 22 this year, hardly a youngster in modern football terms. A promising highly rated footballer at that age should be playing regular senior football, or be an established player at club level. He's barely played any senior football at all, and nearly 22 years old isn't great. |
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 7, 2024 12:55:25 GMT
He can't play today due to his disciplinary record in the Scottish League Cup, "Well, it’s all down to Beck having to serve a one-match ban thanks to his two bookings collected in the Scottish League Cup fixtures last July against Bonnyrigg Rose and Inverness Caledonian Thistle, per The Athletic. The Football Association (FA) have confirmed that Beck failed to serve his one-match ban for Dundee and, therefore, it will be carried over now he is back at Liverpool." - Give Me Sport www.givemesport.com/why-returning-liverpool-loanee-owen-beck-cant-play-against-arsenal/Very annoying and a bit weird how all of this has happened, how do you have such a strange disciplinary system? |
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Post by manulike on Jan 7, 2024 16:05:07 GMT
He can't play today due to his disciplinary record in the Scottish League Cup, "Well, it’s all down to Beck having to serve a one-match ban thanks to his two bookings collected in the Scottish League Cup fixtures last July against Bonnyrigg Rose and Inverness Caledonian Thistle, per The Athletic. The Football Association (FA) have confirmed that Beck failed to serve his one-match ban for Dundee and, therefore, it will be carried over now he is back at Liverpool." - Give Me Sport www.givemesport.com/why-returning-liverpool-loanee-owen-beck-cant-play-against-arsenal/Very annoying and a bit weird how all of this has happened, how do you have such a strange disciplinary system? Thanks for that. I as wondering why he didn't even make the bench today!
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Post by athenempadu on Jan 10, 2024 19:02:05 GMT
On the bench v Fulham this evening.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jan 10, 2024 19:09:30 GMT
Hope he doesn’t get on in that case. The only fit left-back and still on the bench. Goodness knows where he’ll be once the other two regain fitness.
If he does get on he’ll no doubt be consigned to the u21s for the remainder, which as a 2002 born player would be an horrendous backwards step, particularly considering the success of his loan move.
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Post by dai on Jan 10, 2024 21:38:40 GMT
He'll probably come on for the last 10 now, make a mistake, and forever be ridiculed by Liverpool supporters like every other Welsh man at that club.
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Post by manulike on Jan 10, 2024 21:59:02 GMT
I seem to be missing something...
Is there a reason Owen can't play 3-4 cameo roles for Liverpool during January and still be allowed to go back out on loan before the end of the month?
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Post by iot on Jan 10, 2024 22:05:36 GMT
I seem to be missing something... Is there a reason Owen can't play 3-4 cameo roles for Liverpool during January and still be allowed to go back out on loan before the end of the month? Think you can only register with max 3 clubs in a season. So fi he plays for Liverpool, he has to stick with them or go back to Dundee |
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 10, 2024 22:51:58 GMT
I seem to be missing something... Is there a reason Owen can't play 3-4 cameo roles for Liverpool during January and still be allowed to go back out on loan before the end of the month? Think you can only register with max 3 clubs in a season. So fi he plays for Liverpool, he has to stick with them or go back to Dundee I think it’s a maximum of two |
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 10, 2024 23:38:55 GMT
It seems very odd to call a young player back from a successful loan spell and then not play them. Here's hoping he gets a chance to shine and takes it in the next 21 days otherwise it's probably best he looks to leave in the Summer.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 11, 2024 13:11:09 GMT
He'll probably come on for the last 10 now, make a mistake, and forever be ridiculed by Liverpool supporters like every other Welsh man at that club. Yeah like John Toshack, famously hated by scousers. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 11, 2024 13:12:21 GMT
It seems very odd to call a young player back from a successful loan spell and then not play them. Here's hoping he gets a chance to shine and takes it in the next 21 days otherwise it's probably best he looks to leave in the Summer. It's not odd. They have their 2 front line left backs out injured. Their 3rd choice left back also covers right back and centre back. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 11, 2024 14:47:01 GMT
He'll probably come on for the last 10 now, make a mistake, and forever be ridiculed by Liverpool supporters like every other Welsh man at that club. Yeah like John Toshack, famously hated by scousers. The people of Merseyside famously despise Ian Rush |
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Post by iot on Jan 11, 2024 14:58:17 GMT
Think there have been a couple of issues since he returned from Dundee. Think they wanted him to play in the FA Cup game without realising that he was suspended due to cautions picked up in the Scottish Cup. Joe Gomez has covered at left back for a few games now and has done well, whilst their other young full back, Connor Bradley, who was on loan at Bolton with Beck last season and did much better than him, came on in the FA Cup game and did really well. Klopp probably doesn't want to play two rookie full backs, so Bradley was selected at RB with Gomez sticking at LB last night. Bradley did well again yesterday, so I imagine Klopp will stick with those two. If Beck doesn't get selected at all, he can join another club for a loan before the end of the month. Possibly another L1 move for the rest of the season with a Championship loan lined up for next season, or they may risk a Championship move immediately if there's interest.
Thinking about it, Cardiff wouldn't be a bad move at all. They currently have no one else to fill in at LB when Collins is unavailable.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 11, 2024 15:24:13 GMT
Yeah like John Toshack, famously hated by scousers. The people of Merseyside famously despise Ian Rush Well, one half hates him 😂 But they love Big Nev and Ratcliffe so it's all good. |
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Post by iantov on Jan 11, 2024 18:27:31 GMT
Yeah like John Toshack, famously hated by scousers. The people of Merseyside famously despise Ian Rush Really!? Very surprised at that |
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 11, 2024 18:37:31 GMT
They’ve sent another full back on loan to Preston (I think) so they must be planning on using Owen.
Edit- His name is Luke Chambers and he went to Wigan not Preston
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 11, 2024 20:49:49 GMT
Calling him back without knowing he's suspended is such a tinpot way of running things in 2024, you should know if you're players are suspended, you should be looking into that.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 11, 2024 20:52:45 GMT
The people of Merseyside famously despise Ian Rush Really!? Very surprised at that They burn effigies of Neville Southall in the street every year, they play darts on posters of Kevin Ratcliffe. Apparently Mark Pembridge was shot at in the street with a BB gun when going to visit old friends a few years ago. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 11, 2024 22:53:32 GMT
Calling him back without knowing he's suspended is such a tinpot way of running things in 2024, you should know if you're players are suspended, you should be looking into that. Did that actually happen or is it just hearsay? |
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 11, 2024 23:01:43 GMT
Calling him back without knowing he's suspended is such a tinpot way of running things in 2024, you should know if you're players are suspended, you should be looking into that. Did that actually happen or is it just hearsay? I’ve had a look at the articles online and it seems to be a little bit of creative writing by some of the media. Some articles say that Klopp praised him in an interview without mentioning that he was suspended for the first game and the suspension wasn’t really mentioned when he was recalled, but there is nothing really to suggest that Liverpool were totally unaware that he was suspended. In most cases, the headline seemed to call it a shock suspension for headline purposes without any real evidence that Liverpool weren’t aware of it. At the very most, I’d say that Liverpool weren’t informed by the Scottish FA because he wasn’t registered with them at the time but as soon as the loan was recalled, they informed them straight away. Plus they’d almost certainly have scouts and coaches keeping track of all loan players and they’d have definitely known and put it in a report. The fact that he’s suspended for the first game would have very little bearing on the decision to bring him back. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 12, 2024 8:30:46 GMT
Did that actually happen or is it just hearsay? I’ve had a look at the articles online and it seems to be a little bit of creative writing by some of the media. Some articles say that Klopp praised him in an interview without mentioning that he was suspended for the first game and the suspension wasn’t really mentioned when he was recalled, but there is nothing really to suggest that Liverpool were totally unaware that he was suspended. In most cases, the headline seemed to call it a shock suspension for headline purposes without any real evidence that Liverpool weren’t aware of it. At the very most, I’d say that Liverpool weren’t informed by the Scottish FA because he wasn’t registered with them at the time but as soon as the loan was recalled, they informed them straight away. Plus they’d almost certainly have scouts and coaches keeping track of all loan players and they’d have definitely known and put it in a report. The fact that he’s suspended for the first game would have very little bearing on the decision to bring him back. Agreed. They've brought him back because if Gomez or Bradley get injured they're in deep doo doo. He's an insurance policy. |
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Post by athenempadu on Jan 12, 2024 11:10:30 GMT
Klopp probably doesn't want to play two rookie full backs, so Bradley was selected at RB with Gomez sticking at LB last night. Bradley was their best player, and he looks like a real prospect. Who was the young full back they signed from Scotland that pushed Neco out? |
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Post by iot on Jan 12, 2024 12:03:31 GMT
Klopp probably doesn't want to play two rookie full backs, so Bradley was selected at RB with Gomez sticking at LB last night. Bradley was their best player, and he looks like a real prospect. Who was the young full back they signed from Scotland that pushed Neco out? Think his name was Calvin Ramsay and he's on a championship loan |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 12, 2024 12:16:20 GMT
Bradley was their best player, and he looks like a real prospect. Who was the young full back they signed from Scotland that pushed Neco out? Think his name was Calvin Ramsay and he's on a championship loan Yep, played twice for Preston this season |
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Post by athenempadu on Jan 12, 2024 16:02:34 GMT
Bradley and Beck have similar qualities going forward, so there could be a future for him at Liverpool if he imposes himself, but it's still a longshot at the moment.
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 12, 2024 16:56:05 GMT
As Dai said at the top of the page, he's 22 this year and hasn't yet escaped the loan circuit whilst Neco and Trent were established players between 18-20 years old. It should be fairly clear to him that he's not in the picture and needs to find a club that will give him games.
I wouldn't mind him at Wrexham.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 12, 2024 17:56:59 GMT
As Dai said at the top of the page, he's 22 this year and hasn't yet escaped the loan circuit whilst Neco and Trent were established players between 18-20 years old. It should be fairly clear to him that he's not in the picture and needs to find a club that will give him games. I wouldn't mind him at Wrexham. I think Beck should and probably will look elsewhere in the summer, but Neco wasn't an established first teamer at 18-20, he was on loan at Fulham at 21. He's still in and out of the side now at 22 |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 21, 2024 18:13:54 GMT
On with about 10 minutes to go, Liverpool 3-0 up against Bournemouth
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 21, 2024 18:33:18 GMT
Can he play for another team this season now? Can he return to Dundee?
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