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Post by talyfan on Jan 20, 2023 9:12:58 GMT
I think the barometer for me in a striker along with work rate and off the ball runs would be the ability inside the box.
Are they comfortable finishing 1 on 1s, peeling off their defender to find space from a cross, decent aerial prowess, can slot it home from various angles etc.
Trouble is a lot of the time we compare Mullin to the likes of Mark Harris, Tyler Roberts and Dan James. None of whom are I would say natural or instinctive finishers. If they all played for Wrexham I don't think they'd get as many goals and that's no slight on them, it's more to with him because the truth in the matter is it's just not in them and it's not their game but that doesn't put them down as not being better overall players.
If we're ever playing two up would like to see us run with two proper finishers of the ball. If Moore or Johnson go off an actual out and out striker wouldn't go a miss in my eyes as opposed to those three mentioned who I feel are better utilised out wide.
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Post by cadno on Jan 20, 2023 10:10:18 GMT
A lot of people on here seem to want Mullin called up more than they do Bradshaw, wtf hahaha. Agree with fiveattheback, I don't mind him being looked at, but there's a few others ahead of him atm. I thought he looked a bit slow/off the pace against Coventry and not at the same level of fitness as the Championship side, as did most of the Wrexham team which is expected. But he's clearly got a good touch and technique, and fitness/speed can be worked on so I don't doubt he can make the jump one day. I have watched every Wrexham home game this season and Mullin is very fit, he also helps out at the back when needed and saved us conceeding a goal v Bromley 3 days after the Coventry game, Wrexham already have the same amount of coaching and fitness staff as Championship clubs, there are 6 full time employees in the fitness area alone, with the head having been poached from Ipswich. we overrun everyone on fitness in the national league proven by the amount of goals we score in the last 20 minutes. A couple may of looked off the pace at Coventry late on as we rested some players with knocks and used ones that had not played as many games that had been on the bench mainly. Fair enough, that puts my observation to bed haha! Hopefully he can step up the ladder and prove himself at a higher level very soon, maybe with Wales if he’s given the chance! I’d still be fuming if I was Bradshaw and a national league player unproven at L1 and Champ got called up ahead of me🤨 |
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 20, 2023 11:24:53 GMT
Where's the idea come from that Mullin is unfit? What's this based on, watching him on TV against Coventry where he chased lost causes, closed defenders down and made a nuisance of himself? The number of late goals he's scored? I don't understand where Paul Mullin stands out from any player as being unfit.
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Post by cadno on Jan 20, 2023 19:15:43 GMT
Nope, I never said he’s unfit, he’s clearly fit! But is his level of athleticism, speed and fitness up to Championship standard right now? I don’t think so based on what I saw vs Coventry, but he’s probably not as far off as I presumed.
Take the World Cup, could Mullin have kept up with the pace of the games vs USA and Iran? No way in my opinion, but I might be wrong! Clearly a talented footballer nevertheless
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 20, 2023 19:56:22 GMT
Tbf I would never argue for him starting for us just yet. I see him as a 15 min impact player
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Post by welshiron on Jan 20, 2023 23:08:19 GMT
Ffs he is a journey man playing non league
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Post by welshiron on Jan 20, 2023 23:13:38 GMT
Moore
Johnson
James
Harris
Bradshaw
Doidge
Wilson
Robers
vokes
Collins
Lawrence
matondo
Evans
Bodin
Broadhead
Probably forgotten some but all of these play at a higher level
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Post by insertname on Jan 21, 2023 3:14:10 GMT
I have watched every Wrexham home game this season and Mullin is very fit, he also helps out at the back when needed and saved us conceeding a goal v Bromley 3 days after the Coventry game, Wrexham already have the same amount of coaching and fitness staff as Championship clubs, there are 6 full time employees in the fitness area alone, with the head having been poached from Ipswich. we overrun everyone on fitness in the national league proven by the amount of goals we score in the last 20 minutes. A couple may of looked off the pace at Coventry late on as we rested some players with knocks and used ones that had not played as many games that had been on the bench mainly. Fair enough, that puts my observation to bed haha! Hopefully he can step up the ladder and prove himself at a higher level very soon, maybe with Wales if he’s given the chance! I’d still be fuming if I was Bradshaw and a national league player unproven at L1 and Champ got called up ahead of me🤨 Score more goals innit |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 21, 2023 16:21:22 GMT
Journeyman Mullin wins a penalty and puts it away.
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Post by cadno on Jan 21, 2023 17:53:24 GMT
Lads you’re obviously Wrexham fans, but you can’t seriously say he deserves a call up ahead of Bradshaw or Collins at this moment in time 😂 he’s playing non league ffs
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Post by cadno on Jan 21, 2023 17:55:31 GMT
Fair enough, that puts my observation to bed haha! Hopefully he can step up the ladder and prove himself at a higher level very soon, maybe with Wales if he’s given the chance! I’d still be fuming if I was Bradshaw and a national league player unproven at L1 and Champ got called up ahead of me🤨 Score more goals innit What? At non league level? Bradshaw has 40+ in champ and40+ in league 1, Mullin is 2 years younger and has 0 championship goals and 3 league 1 goals |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 22, 2023 19:53:30 GMT
Lads you’re obviously Wrexham fans, but you can’t seriously say he deserves a call up ahead of Bradshaw or Collins at this moment in time 😂 he’s playing non league ffs By this logic Jonny wouldn't have been ahead of Tyler, Gunter wouldn't have been ahead of Andrew Hughes. International football isn't just a case of starting at the top level and picking players each level down until you run out of spaces You have to consider many different things; the level, the players traits/qualities, potential, what you already have in the squad, what you're missing, and much more. There are factors whereby Mullin could be a better option than Bradshaw I personally feel it's silly to blanket rule him out because of who he plays for, when we know he can bang goals in League Two, meaning he's definitely a League One level striker - minimum |
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Post by cadno on Jan 24, 2023 0:07:37 GMT
The difference being Joniesta already had over 30 caps for wales and has proven himself as a great player at intl level, Gunter has over 100 caps? We know what they bring to the table. They play in league 2 now but they were given the opportunity to play for Wales whilst they were regular Championship players. Calling Mullin up before Bradshaw right now would be ridiculous sorry
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 24, 2023 7:41:47 GMT
I think most are advocating calling him up to a training camp more than a direct call-up, so we can take a proper look at him in that environment. I'm not exactly sure what harm that does.
I'd also argue we do the same with Collins and Bradshaw.
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Post by cadno on Jan 24, 2023 11:27:04 GMT
I’m not against that, if it comes down to a squad for a qualifier then there’s a few ahead of Mullin atm on merit including Bradshaw and Collins
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 24, 2023 11:30:30 GMT
Moore Johnson James Harris Bradshaw Doidge Wilson Robers vokes Collins Lawrence matondo Evans Bodin Broadhead Probably forgotten some but all of these play at a higher level And combined, they've probably scored fewer than Mullin over the past 3 years. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 24, 2023 13:01:35 GMT
How many has Mullin scored in the championship or league 1 in that time?
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 24, 2023 20:42:15 GMT
Simon Church was a Championship player - He really set the world alight, didn't he?
We need a goalscorer more than ever now Bale has retired, and none of the existing options are what I'd describe as "prolific". Give me form over reputation, any day.
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Post by cadno on Jan 24, 2023 20:58:55 GMT
Simon church is irrelevant as he’s retired from professional football and we’re talking about players proven to score at L1 and Championship. Take your Wrexham glasses off, Kieffer Moore wasn’t called up until he started scoring in League 1.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 24, 2023 21:09:54 GMT
If Mullin was scoring at a ridiculous rate in League Two, do you really think he'd struggle that much at League One level?
I wouldn't be considering Mullin if he'd only ever played non-league, but he joined Wrexham after being the best goalscorer in League Two. I'm not saying he would have continued in a similar vein in League One, but I think it's a stretch to say he couldn't score goals at that level based on that
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 24, 2023 21:39:25 GMT
On the scoresheet again.
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Post by cadno on Jan 24, 2023 21:58:28 GMT
Simon church is irrelevant as he’s retired from professional football and we’re talking about players proven to score at L1 and Championship. Take your Wrexham glasses off, Kieffer Moore wasn’t called up until he started scoring in League 1. If Mullin was scoring at a ridiculous rate in League Two, do you really think he'd struggle that much at League One level? I wouldn't be considering Mullin if he'd only ever played non-league, but he joined Wrexham after being the best goalscorer in League Two. I'm not saying he would have continued in a similar vein in League One, but I think it's a stretch to say he couldn't score goals at that level based on that I don’t know, let’s wait and see. ‘A stretch to say he couldn’t score at that level’ come on mun, I usually like your posts but I never said that… Ive said he’s not proven at that level, which is fact! He’s 28 now so he better hope Wrexham get quick back to back promotions or he leaves! Like I’ve said before; I’m not against giving Mullin a call up to a training squad etc and seeing if he’s up to the pace. My argument is; there’s others that deserve a call up ahead of him at this moment, Aaron Collins and Tom Bradshaw being two obvious players. This is a mental discussion ffs |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 24, 2023 22:11:41 GMT
I'm not saying you said that directly mate, just saying I think the idea we should rule him out based on his current level is a bit silly given we know he's operating at a higher level in all likelihood. Again not saying you've said that, but obviously there are people who think we shouldn't even be considering him
I agree re: Collins, not sure I agree re: Bradshaw. Bradshaw has been involved with the setup, hasn't done an awful lot since then. Been in and out at Championship level and not a great scoring record, very likely won't improve. Collins on the other hand seems to be a player on the up at a good level. I'd be for Collins/Mullin coming into a training squad, not Bradshaw, but that's just my personal opinion
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Post by insertname on Jan 27, 2023 18:27:00 GMT
Feast your eyes on the great man’s FA cup goals: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/64389895There’s some soft stuff in there, if we’re honest. Light on the 30 yard chips of the goalkeeper. But then he knows where the goal is and gets himself in the right position to score which in itself is arguably a talent lacking in his competitors, eg Harris not having the same impact on loan to Wrexham. I’ve got everything crossed that he makes his mark on Sheff United this weekend. Even if not I’d hope at some point he and Collins get a chance to be called up and looked at. I hesitate to include Bradshaw in that group for reasons that have been done to death. |
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 27, 2023 18:55:50 GMT
I love the idea of he and Collins getting a call up, I've seen enough of some of the others for the time being.
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Post by insertname on Jan 27, 2023 19:34:28 GMT
I love the idea of he and Collins getting a call up, I've seen enough of some of the others for the time being. This whole conversation would be less tedious for supporters if we knew there was an upgrade path to the seniors. If they fail the preliminaries then fair enough, but we don’t have that. We just see the same old suspects being called up and assume that they are the only game in town as far as the management are concerned. It would be nice to see extended “lower league inclusive camps” or whatever to know that it’s being addressed. But maybe that’s OTT… |
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Post by massivefloodlights on Jan 28, 2023 14:16:57 GMT
Of course Mullin deserves a crack at it. Ffs, some were calling for that lad (forget his name) who was having a half decent season up in Scotland with Hibs I think.
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Post by bale-droed on Jan 28, 2023 14:39:30 GMT
Of course Mullin deserves a crack at it. Ffs, some were calling for that lad (forget his name) who was having a half decent season up in Scotland with Hibs I think. Christian doidge |
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Post by garynysmon on Jan 29, 2023 12:04:08 GMT
Bit of a difference between the SPL and the English National League though.
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Post by gimli on Jan 29, 2023 17:30:38 GMT
I'm sold. Best player on the pitch playing against a Championship team. He's ripping their defence (that includes several former Premier League players) to shreds.
Definitely worthy of a call up even just to take a look at him in training, and honestly if we're chasing a goal I'd rather bring him on than any of our other options at the moment
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