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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 15, 2023 16:26:21 GMT
I know they can win the group and that might help their rankings in the pot. But I don't think that ever feels like something that urges a drive for a result really, and you can imagine given they've got a relatively young squad and a new manager it's also every bit as useful for them to use the Germany game as a practise exercise rather than worrying about being in pot 2 or 3 Yeah I'm not sure I buy the "They'll be trying hard to get a better seeding!" argument |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 15, 2023 21:57:27 GMT
I know they can win the group and that might help their rankings in the pot. But I don't think that ever feels like something that urges a drive for a result really, and you can imagine given they've got a relatively young squad and a new manager it's also every bit as useful for them to use the Germany game as a practise exercise rather than worrying about being in pot 2 or 3 Yeah I'm not sure I buy the "They'll be trying hard to get a better seeding!" argument We didn't play a friendly for years to get a better seeding. Can't rule it out as a motivation. |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 15, 2023 21:58:22 GMT
Disastrous window for Israel. 1 point out of 6! Norway and Haaland on brink of being bumped out of play offs
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 15, 2023 22:04:25 GMT
Yeah I'm not sure I buy the "They'll be trying hard to get a better seeding!" argument We didn't play a friendly for years to get a better seeding. Can't rule it out as a motivation. That was a strategic decision from the top. I doubt the players themselves take much notice, it'll just be another game. I imagine some may fancy the Germany game more than us |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 15, 2023 22:30:49 GMT
We didn't play a friendly for years to get a better seeding. Can't rule it out as a motivation. That was a strategic decision from the top. I doubt the players themselves take much notice, it'll just be another game. I imagine some may fancy the Germany game more than us Just a bit! Huuuuge Turkish diaspora in Germany. |
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Post by vvm on Nov 16, 2023 13:33:40 GMT
I don't know, I think they'll want to get the best pot possible. Haven't got the time to work it out but a quick look on twitter and googling suggests if they win the group, they'll be pot 2 and if they come second they'll be pot 3. On paper that's the difference between being favored to get out of the group or not at the tournament.
I think it's almost similar to the end of out world cup qualifying campaign. We already had a guaranteed playoff spot but we approached the Belarus and Belgium games with full strength teams in order to finish second in the group and guarantee we were seeded.
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Post by manulike on Nov 16, 2023 14:29:01 GMT
Disastrous window for Israel. 1 point out of 6! Norway and Haaland on brink of being bumped out of play offs Yes. Israel are playing 4 games in 9 days with a squad of players that have not played a competitive match in five weeks... Israel is guaranteed of a play off, if they fail to beat Romania in Budapest on Saturday. |
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Post by janglingjack on Nov 16, 2023 16:17:21 GMT
Definitely settle for Israel as a play off opponent if it came to the worst ,but i believe with the experience our players have gained from the recent years we will do what we need to and not need the safety net of the play offs.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 16, 2023 17:07:17 GMT
Definitely settle for Israel as a play off opponent if it came to the worst ,but i believe with the experience our players have gained from the recent years we will do what we need to and not need the safety net of the play offs. Sadly we can’t draw them. They’re Nations League group winners so they’ll only play in the League B play off route |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 16, 2023 18:14:27 GMT
Scott McTominay scores his 7th euro 2024 qualifying goal!
Crazy for a CM!
Had only scored one goal for Scotland before March!
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Post by mrpicton79 on Nov 16, 2023 18:14:33 GMT
I don't know, I think they'll want to get the best pot possible. Haven't got the time to work it out but a quick look on twitter and googling suggests if they win the group, they'll be pot 2 and if they come second they'll be pot 3. On paper that's the difference between being favored to get out of the group or not at the tournament. I think it's almost similar to the end of out world cup qualifying campaign. We already had a guaranteed playoff spot but we approached the Belarus and Belgium games with full strength teams in order to finish second in the group and guarantee we were seeded. The situation then was a little different tbf. We were nowhere near qualification for the WC at that point, and we had to get ourselves seeded to have any chance of success in the play-offs. Turkey are already at the tournament, yes they've got the seedings to play for but teams do tend to subconsciously lose a bit of intensity once they've got over the line, we see it all the time. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 16, 2023 21:56:20 GMT
Luxembourg 4-1 Bosnia
Azerbaijan 3-0 Sweden
Two very surprising results!
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Post by underwood on Nov 16, 2023 22:04:00 GMT
Norway will be kicking themselves for throwing away their lead at home to Scotland in the summer. They would have only needed a point from their last game with the Jocks to qualify.
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Post by quetzal on Nov 16, 2023 22:44:51 GMT
Norway will be kicking themselves for throwing away their lead at home to Scotland in the summer. They would have only needed a point from their last game with the Jocks to qualify. No play off for Norway unless Israel nail a win against Romania |
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Post by underwood on Nov 16, 2023 22:49:08 GMT
Norway will be kicking themselves for throwing away their lead at home to Scotland in the summer. They would have only needed a point from their last game with the Jocks to qualify. No play off for Norway unless Israel nail a win against Romania Man City will be delighted. Again. Haaland could become the modern-day Ryan Giggs. |
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Post by manulike on Nov 17, 2023 7:41:53 GMT
Luxembourg 4-1 Bosnia Azerbaijan 3-0 Sweden Two very surprising results! I spent two weeks in Liege / Namur area last year before our game, and been told that the Lux team is full of real youthful promise. They were saying some playing in germany and Belgian League. Beautiful hiking country and great Youth hostel system as well :+) |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 17, 2023 12:18:14 GMT
We didn't play a friendly for years to get a better seeding. Can't rule it out as a motivation. That was a strategic decision from the top. I doubt the players themselves take much notice, it'll just be another game. I imagine some may fancy the Germany game more than us If that was the case for us it probably is for them too. Why wouldn't you want every advantage in a tournament. I'm sure they have people advising them as we did back then. |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 17, 2023 12:23:02 GMT
I don't know, I think they'll want to get the best pot possible. Haven't got the time to work it out but a quick look on twitter and googling suggests if they win the group, they'll be pot 2 and if they come second they'll be pot 3. On paper that's the difference between being favored to get out of the group or not at the tournament. I think it's almost similar to the end of out world cup qualifying campaign. We already had a guaranteed playoff spot but we approached the Belarus and Belgium games with full strength teams in order to finish second in the group and guarantee we were seeded. The situation then was a little different tbf. We were nowhere near qualification for the WC at that point, and we had to get ourselves seeded to have any chance of success in the play-offs. Turkey are already at the tournament, yes they've got the seedings to play for but teams do tend to subconsciously lose a bit of intensity once they've got over the line, we see it all the time. Not sure I agree to be honest. They're professionals and will want to do what's best for the country. If its an easier outcome for them they'll take the hit now. We'll be going into that Turkey match on the back of a very difficult match, they'll go into our match with a very managed squad. We'll have to do it the hard way. |
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Post by melynwy on Nov 17, 2023 12:27:42 GMT
Should we win tomorrow, and Latvia somehow beat Croatia, do we qualify?
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Post by jono on Nov 17, 2023 12:51:44 GMT
Should we win tomorrow, and Latvia somehow beat Croatia, do we qualify? I believe so, as Croatia cannot overtake us on head to head. |
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Post by hc16040 on Nov 17, 2023 12:59:54 GMT
The situation then was a little different tbf. We were nowhere near qualification for the WC at that point, and we had to get ourselves seeded to have any chance of success in the play-offs. Turkey are already at the tournament, yes they've got the seedings to play for but teams do tend to subconsciously lose a bit of intensity once they've got over the line, we see it all the time. Not sure I agree to be honest. They're professionals and will want to do what's best for the country. If its an easier outcome for them they'll take the hit now. We'll be going into that Turkey match on the back of a very difficult match, they'll go into our match with a very managed squad. We'll have to do it the hard way. They're playing Germany away, given the number of Turks in Germany and the fact this Germany team is beatable I don't see them resting their starting 11 with the chance at a massive statement win. |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 17, 2023 13:11:01 GMT
Not sure I agree to be honest. They're professionals and will want to do what's best for the country. If its an easier outcome for them they'll take the hit now. We'll be going into that Turkey match on the back of a very difficult match, they'll go into our match with a very managed squad. We'll have to do it the hard way. They're playing Germany away, given the number of Turks in Germany and the fact this Germany team is beatable I don't see them resting their starting 11 with the chance at a massive statement win. For us, it’s probably the best friendly they could play. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 17, 2023 13:33:00 GMT
They're playing Germany away, given the number of Turks in Germany and the fact this Germany team is beatable I don't see them resting their starting 11 with the chance at a massive statement win. For us, it’s probably the best friendly they could play. Or Greece... |
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Post by johnoster on Nov 17, 2023 14:15:19 GMT
Would prefer them to play Trethomas Bluebirds away, but Germany will do.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 17, 2023 14:25:20 GMT
Would prefer them to play Trethomas Bluebirds away, but Germany will do. C'mon mate, sending them up there woukd be inhumane. |
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Post by manulike on Nov 17, 2023 15:48:56 GMT
Should we win tomorrow, and Latvia somehow beat Croatia, do we qualify? I believe so, as Croatia cannot overtake us on head to head. I like your thinking! I would not be surprised at all :+) |
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Post by pclaude on Nov 17, 2023 18:25:20 GMT
Should we win tomorrow, and Latvia somehow beat Croatia, do we qualify? Yes |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 17, 2023 21:04:26 GMT
Not sure I agree to be honest. They're professionals and will want to do what's best for the country. If its an easier outcome for them they'll take the hit now. We'll be going into that Turkey match on the back of a very difficult match, they'll go into our match with a very managed squad. We'll have to do it the hard way. They're playing Germany away, given the number of Turks in Germany and the fact this Germany team is beatable I don't see them resting their starting 11 with the chance at a massive statement win. If you think they'll be that short sighted. Would be good for us. |
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Post by welshowl on Nov 17, 2023 22:58:31 GMT
So tonight Poland played their last group game. At home to Czech Republic. A win for the Poles would have seen them leapfrog the Czechs into second spot, but it finsihed 1-1 - so Poland finish third. I presume they will be in our section of the playoffs if that ends up being our fate? At least Italy shed their North Macedonia hoodoo and need 'only' to avoid defeat in their away (neutral country?) versus the Ukraine to qualify automatically. Hopefully Italy can do that for more than one reason.
Juicy winner takes all clash to come between Slovenia and Kazakhstan for automatic qualification. Also on Monday Czech Republic versus Moldova in a smilar shoot out. Nations Leagues will definitely have played a part in this extra competitiveness between the established order and smaller nations.
Can anybody out there tell us what we'd like to happen for the back up plan of the playoffs if we don't do the business in Armenia? Keep believeing though that we will !
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 17, 2023 23:09:05 GMT
Fair play to Kazakhstan, would love to see them qualify. Tough to go away to Slovenia needing a win but they would have taken that at the start of the campaign I'm sure
Similar for Moldova, but when have Moldova ever still been in with a chance at this stage? Remarkable. One massive performance from them and they'd be there. That would surely be one of the best ever underdog stories to qualify if either pull it off
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