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Post by marsvolta on Dec 31, 2021 17:10:37 GMT
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Post by saturn9 on Dec 31, 2021 17:39:23 GMT
Jadan also gets a shout out, on the young Palace player tipped for the first team. Hope Harris sticks with us and stays injury free, and gets some cup experience in 2022. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 1, 2022 13:16:44 GMT
How does Harris qualify? Is it by virtue of being a Channel Islander? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 2, 2022 11:24:10 GMT
How does Harris qualify? Is it by virtue of being a Channel Islander? Yes - a loophole that is closing because the English FA do control investments into football in these areas I believe But he played for us at youth level so he will stay with us if he chooses |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 2, 2022 11:29:46 GMT
For anyone that like me doesn't want to give clicks to the Daily Mail; "At just 16, Luke Harris is one of the first names on the team-sheet for Fulham's under-23s and has played for three different Wales age groups this year, the highest being the Under-19s, having also represented the U17s and U18s. If it were not for his international duties he would already have begun training with Marco Silva's first team, a step up that is likely to come in 2022. Once he is playing for the first-team, Fulham youth coach Steve Wigley says: 'The world is his oyster.' Attacking midfielder Harris is a player Fulham have huge hopes for. He can play anywhere across midfield but is at his best either playing as a No 10 or just a little deeper as an orthodox central midfielder and he excels when it comes to scoring goals. Four in 10 games at Premier League 2 level and three in four for Fulham's under-18s are an example of why he has been likened to Frank Lampard because of his ability to arrive late in the box and find the net. Harris has been at Fulham since he was 12 and progressed quickly, a journey that is likely to gather pace over the next 12 months. It would be no surprise if he is in and around the Wales senior set-up in the next 18 months too." Interesting that he's being tipped to make senior appearances for us soon. If he can play in CM then he does have a good chance |
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Post by hooky on Jan 2, 2022 13:17:21 GMT
Harris is a Welsh (as well as English) name, so hopefully there is a Welsh connection in his family somewhere!
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Post by iot on Jan 2, 2022 13:51:05 GMT
How does Harris qualify? Is it by virtue of being a Channel Islander? Yes - a loophole that is closing because the English FA do control investments into football in these areas I believe But he played for us at youth level so he will stay with us if he chooses Surely he must have some other connection? I can't profess to understand identify issues within the Channel Islands, but surely the people who live there primarily identify as English? Seeing as he's a 16yo top prospect, the other FAs must have shown interest too, so it would be a bit random for him to opt for us if there is no other connection |
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Post by talyfan on Jan 2, 2022 14:19:40 GMT
Yes - a loophole that is closing because the English FA do control investments into football in these areas I believe But he played for us at youth level so he will stay with us if he chooses Surely he must have some other connection? I can't profess to understand identify issues within the Channel Islands, but surely the people who live there primarily identify as English? Seeing as he's a 16yo top prospect, the other FAs must have shown interest too, so it would be a bit random for him to opt for us if there is no other connection If I remember rightly if a Channel Islander who has no parent or grandparent from the home nations they are free to choose any of the home nations. If a Channel Islander has a parent/grand parent from one of the home nations that player question is only eligible for that country. i.e. a player born and raised in Alderney but has a Welsh grand parent is only eligible for Wales and no other home nation |
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Post by iot on Jan 2, 2022 14:42:19 GMT
Surely he must have some other connection? I can't profess to understand identify issues within the Channel Islands, but surely the people who live there primarily identify as English? Seeing as he's a 16yo top prospect, the other FAs must have shown interest too, so it would be a bit random for him to opt for us if there is no other connection If I remember rightly if a Channel Islander who has no parent or grandparent from the home nations they are free to choose any of the home nations. If a Channel Islander has a parent/grand parent from one of the home nations that player question is only eligible for that country. i.e. a player born and raised in Alderney but has a Welsh grand parent is only eligible for Wales and no other home nation Interesting, so if he has a Welsh parent / grandparent he's essentially locked in with us. That would make more sense to me |
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 2, 2022 14:46:57 GMT
Yes - a loophole that is closing because the English FA do control investments into football in these areas I believe But he played for us at youth level so he will stay with us if he chooses Surely he must have some other connection? I can't profess to understand identify issues within the Channel Islands, but surely the people who live there primarily identify as English? Seeing as he's a 16yo top prospect, the other FAs must have shown interest too, so it would be a bit random for him to opt for us if there is no other connection I know what you are saying but don’t forget that people from the Channel Islands aren’t Welsh but technically they aren’t English either. So their options are either playing non-official international football for Jersey or Guernsey or wherever, or choosing one of the home nations. People presume that they will choose England but they don’t have to. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 2, 2022 16:21:59 GMT
Yes - a loophole that is closing because the English FA do control investments into football in these areas I believe But he played for us at youth level so he will stay with us if he chooses Surely he must have some other connection? I can't profess to understand identify issues within the Channel Islands, but surely the people who live there primarily identify as English? Seeing as he's a 16yo top prospect, the other FAs must have shown interest too, so it would be a bit random for him to opt for us if there is no other connection The people who are from there aren't English so I doubt they are any likelier to feel English. In fact you could argue that being from a small island with it's own identity and outlook could lead you more towards one of the other home nations instead of England Sounds like the FAW got in there early with their excellent talent ID process and brought him into the setup. If he feels a part of something with our age grade groups there's no reason he should swap that in for England, the same with a lot of our dual-qualifieds - how many of them actually end up switching back to England? Barely any in reality! |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Jan 2, 2022 17:03:25 GMT
Channel Islands just seem like like part of England and have been a royal possession of the English crown a thousand years and the new regulations would have made him ineligible for Wales if he only had Channel Islands background. However I actually believe Luke Harris (who actually comes from Jersey rather than Guernsey)has Welsh family and therefore qualifies for us on that basis, so has a legitimate right to play for us and would be likely to choose to play for Wales on that basis so don't think it should be an issue.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 2, 2022 17:55:52 GMT
Channel Islands just seem like like part of England and have been a royal possession of the English crown a thousand years and the new regulations would have made him ineligible for Wales if he only had Channel Islands background. However I actually believe Luke Harris (who actually comes from Jersey rather than Guernsey)has Welsh family and therefore qualifies for us on that basis, so has a legitimate right to play for us and would be likely to choose to play for Wales on that basis so don't think it should be an issue. Football Manager has him down as being born in Cardiff but I imagine that's false |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 2, 2022 19:40:07 GMT
To be fair, not many people will be born on any of the channel islands with a set of parents and grandparents who were also born there. It's very unlikely to happen
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 21, 2022 20:28:51 GMT
An 11 minute hattrick against Newcastle u23s
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 22, 2022 6:23:40 GMT
Well this is exciting
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Post by zingo on Feb 22, 2022 9:26:45 GMT
First time posting !!!
Lad who works for me is Lukes parents next door neighbour,hes told me that luke and is parents are jersey but the grandparents are welsh,
When wales are playing in football or rugby the dad can be heard cheering for wales,he wears welsh tops and from when luke was a kid he was kicking a ball in the street with a welsh kit on, hope that clears that up 👍
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 14:29:02 GMT
Great info Zingo,good stuff .
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 26, 2022 9:19:03 GMT
Wow! 11 goals in 19 games as a centre midfielder, at the age of 16 playing against players up to 7 years older
I think we really have a player on our hands here
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 11, 2022 20:20:08 GMT
Dragon Soccer mentioned on Twitter that Harris is expected to be named in a Welsh squad in the coming days - but has been taken off in the first half for Fulham u23s with a possible injury
Which squad would that have been do we think, u21s?
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Post by insertname on Mar 11, 2022 22:45:27 GMT
Wow! 11 goals in 19 games as a centre midfielder, at the age of 16 playing against players up to 7 years older I think we really have a player on our hands here Promising stuff but as a channel islander we face competition to cap him if he’s any good, don’t we? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 12, 2022 18:53:59 GMT
Wow! 11 goals in 19 games as a centre midfielder, at the age of 16 playing against players up to 7 years older I think we really have a player on our hands here Promising stuff but as a channel islander we face competition to cap him if he’s any good, don’t we? No I've got a feeling that I read on twitter he's only got one Welsh parent/grandparent and the rest of these relatives are channel island born, meaning he can only play for us May well not be 100% confirmed, but I'm sure I read something like that |
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Post by insertname on Mar 12, 2022 19:42:02 GMT
Promising stuff but as a channel islander we face competition to cap him if he’s any good, don’t we? No I've got a feeling that I read on twitter he's only got one Welsh parent/grandparent and the rest of these relatives are channel island born, meaning he can only play for us May well not be 100% confirmed, but I'm sure I read something like that Ah good stuff, sounds encouraging. Seems like he’s being fast tracked through the age group system so there’s some actual potential there to get excited about. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 13, 2022 14:23:09 GMT
No I've got a feeling that I read on twitter he's only got one Welsh parent/grandparent and the rest of these relatives are channel island born, meaning he can only play for us May well not be 100% confirmed, but I'm sure I read something like that Ah good stuff, sounds encouraging. Seems like he’s being fast tracked through the age group system so there’s some actual potential there to get excited about. He could stay with our u19s a little longer, but it would not surprise me at all to see him pushed up to the u21s. To be doing this well for Fulham U23s at the age of 16 is very very exciting |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Mar 13, 2022 15:17:10 GMT
was told last year Luke Harris qualfies for Wales through the UK/channel islands rule
U19s (2003) don't have a get together this month
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Post by dragonsoccer on Mar 13, 2022 15:22:44 GMT
U17s (2005+ born) have UEFA matches (Elite round in Slovenia)
U19s (2004 born) have 2 friendly matches vs Finlad
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U21s (2000+ born) - have UEFA U21 qualifiers
Take your pick
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Post by iot on Mar 13, 2022 18:12:54 GMT
was told last year Luke Harris qualfies for Wales through the UK/channel islands rule U19s (2003) don't have a get together this month If you look at zingo's comment few posts up, he says that Harris' grandparents are Welsh. So unless I'm mistaken, that would mean he only qualifies for us and it's not through the UK/channel islands rule? |
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Post by talyfan on Mar 13, 2022 22:03:07 GMT
was told last year Luke Harris qualfies for Wales through the UK/channel islands rule U19s (2003) don't have a get together this month If you look at zingo's comment few posts up, he says that Harris' grandparents are Welsh. So unless I'm mistaken, that would mean he only qualifies for us and it's not through the UK/channel islands rule? I don't know Harris' personal history of how long he has been educated in England for since joining Fulham. I'm assuming he's not been there 5 years. He's eligible through what I'm assuming grandparents [posted by others as referred to comment], which would give a degree of exclusivity for Wales* Player only eligible for all four home nations if they do not meet the following:- 1. Born or have parents or grandparents born in of the terrirtories [Eng, Sco, Wales and NI] . 2. Has engaged in a minimum of five years education under the age of 18 within the territory of the relevant association. So unless Harris has all parents and grandparents born and raised in Jersey [or outside home nations], which would make him able to choose either four terrirtories. I would imagine that given he hasn't played a senior game for us yet, and if only being eligible by having all connections born and raised in Jersey there would be much more interest from all other territories to snap him up given his promise * If he's been in England since the age of 12, there could potentially be the case he could get called up for England through the educational clause but again don't know his history. If he's moved within the last two years or so we're golden! |
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Post by hooky on Mar 13, 2022 23:16:05 GMT
Found this: Luke enjoyed a fantastic season for the Under-18s, despite the fact he was aged just 15 for the majority of the campaign. With eight goals and three assists to his name, he is sure to feature heavily for the upcoming season. The Welsh international joined us from Jersey, a place Malcolm Elias has a rich history of plucking players from. He’s one of a few who have come from that island, dating all the way back to Marlon Fossey. A likeable player, Luke models his game on Frank Lampard and has gained international recognition, being called up by England and Wales in the last two years. www.fulhamfc.com/players/under-18s/luke-harris/?utm_source=www.premierleague.com&utm_campaign=website&utm_medium=link |
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Post by redwallnews on Mar 14, 2022 0:56:42 GMT
Captained the u17s recently and his profile picture on twitter is him in a Cymru top. Wouldn't worry about losing him.
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