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Post by hooky on Aug 16, 2022 10:26:47 GMT
Well really hope our new U21 coach remembers what the gig is about.
Accelerating the development of Welsh talent
Flynn set the model - follow it!
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Post by insertname on Aug 16, 2022 11:13:39 GMT
He’s going to the World Cup... We cant be ignoring players on the bench in the PL. Pretty ridiculous I’d say…but then come to think of it Colwill had hardly made any senior appearances before going to the Euros had he? So I guess by that standard all bets are off! And if you are going to take a random senior football “virgin” then one who scores goals for fun from midfield against decent u23 players has to be the one! |
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Post by hooky on Aug 16, 2022 11:36:47 GMT
Does anyone get why Bodin never promoted talented players up to the U21s?
Was it out of an old fashioned sense of loyalty?
I would have thought it was putting his own interests first of not risking results, but the results were dire under him.
I know I have critiqued him a lot but I genuinely do not know what his rational was and why the WFA were not given some direction that his job was primarily to push through the talent.
PS - Ampadu missed clearance for the first of Luke's goals was truly shocking!
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Post by hooky on Aug 16, 2022 11:38:43 GMT
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 16, 2022 11:53:09 GMT
We cant be ignoring players on the bench in the PL. Pretty ridiculous I’d say…but then come to think of it Colwill had hardly made any senior appearances before going to the Euros had he? So I guess by that standard all bets are off! And if you are going to take a random senior football “virgin” then one who scores goals for fun from midfield against decent u23 players has to be the one! An under 21 side including one of our guaranteed starters no less! Some really poor defending from Ampadu in that highlights video unfortunately |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 16, 2022 12:01:09 GMT
Similar to his other goals I've seen, he definitely knows where to be to get goals. 2nd was was a very good finish here Poor defending from Ampadu, not doing himself any favours there |
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Post by iot on Aug 16, 2022 13:05:28 GMT
Does anyone get why Bodin never promoted talented players up to the U21s? Was it out of an old fashioned sense of loyalty? I would have thought it was putting his own interests first of not risking results, but the results were dire under him. I know I have critiqued him a lot but I genuinely do not know what his rational was and why the WFA were not given some direction that his job was primarily to push through the talent. PS - Ampadu missed clearance for the first of Luke's goals was truly shocking! I don't think we know for sure, so can only speculate. It looks like there may have been a change in policy at some point, with an attempt to bring generations of players through together rather that fast-tracking the best one or two individuals through. I remember reading something about that when Neco was coming through. Neco was never capped at u21 level, the FAW seemed to prefer keeping him with the u19s group he had played with and graduated from earlier age groups with. It's probably designed to instill camaraderie right through the age groups to make it as enjoyable as possible, rather than having a higher churn of players from one group to the other. So the criticism of Bodin may be unfair as the directive may have come from higher up. Personally, I think there's a better balance to be struck. Where it's clear that players are too good for their age group but not ready for the seniors, i would like to see them going through to the u21s as early as possible. So our best prospects, the likes of Harris and Savage, could have played together and the likes of Beck in the u21s for that much longer |
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Post by insertname on Aug 16, 2022 14:19:29 GMT
Pretty ridiculous I’d say…but then come to think of it Colwill had hardly made any senior appearances before going to the Euros had he? So I guess by that standard all bets are off! And if you are going to take a random senior football “virgin” then one who scores goals for fun from midfield against decent u23 players has to be the one! An under 21 side including one of our guaranteed starters no less! Some really poor defending from Ampadu in that highlights video unfortunately Park football stuff that was |
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Post by insertname on Aug 16, 2022 14:22:00 GMT
Similar to his other goals I've seen, he definitely knows where to be to get goals. 2nd was was a very good finish here Poor defending from Ampadu, not doing himself any favours there There’s nothing spectacular there so hard to get a sense of why he might be so highly rated other than being in the right place…but then as basic as those goals were if it was that easy you’d hear of players scoring for fun all the time at that level so that in and of itself suggests that both his knowledge of where the net is and his movement must be very advanced for someone in the junior levels. Hope he continues in the same vein |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 16, 2022 16:09:51 GMT
Similar to his other goals I've seen, he definitely knows where to be to get goals. 2nd was was a very good finish here Poor defending from Ampadu, not doing himself any favours there There’s nothing spectacular there so hard to get a sense of why he might be so highly rated other than being in the right place…but then as basic as those goals were if it was that easy you’d hear of players scoring for fun all the time at that level so that in and of itself suggests that both his knowledge of where the net is and his movement must be very advanced for someone in the junior levels. Hope he continues in the same vein He's also a fair bit younger than most of the players he's up against |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 16, 2022 19:09:18 GMT
Similar to his other goals I've seen, he definitely knows where to be to get goals. 2nd was was a very good finish here Poor defending from Ampadu, not doing himself any favours there There’s nothing spectacular there so hard to get a sense of why he might be so highly rated other than being in the right place…but then as basic as those goals were if it was that easy you’d hear of players scoring for fun all the time at that level so that in and of itself suggests that both his knowledge of where the net is and his movement must be very advanced for someone in the junior levels. Hope he continues in the same vein It's the consistency in which he scores this type of goal that is impressive. Suggests it's a skill of his. Even more impressive given that he's 17 playing up against u23s |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 20, 2022 13:58:48 GMT
On the bench against Brentford
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Post by iot on Aug 24, 2022 11:35:07 GMT
Started for the seniors for the first time yesterday, but got taken off at half time with Fulham 1-0 down to Crawley. He has plenty of time on his hands, but would be good to see him taking those types of opportunities to push on.
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Post by zingo on Aug 28, 2022 6:24:33 GMT
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Post by saturn9 on Aug 28, 2022 7:28:36 GMT
Made the bench v arsenal Saturday evening again. WC dark horse.
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Post by iot on Aug 28, 2022 7:53:46 GMT
He's absolutely smashed it at u23 level, looked far too good for that level. Needs to show he can have an impact at senior level now, so lots to prove still
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Post by hooky on Aug 28, 2022 8:42:43 GMT
well he has been given zero chance in the league so far and was taken off after just one half in the Cup last week, so looks extremely unlikely so far I guess
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Post by hooky on Aug 29, 2022 13:10:42 GMT
Sounds like he could be involved in the Nation League matches:
On Luke:
Page said: “We’ve seen his games and he’s doing really well.
“He is an absolute talent. I met with him and the family and he’s a great kid too.
Wales manager Robert Page left the World Cup door open for David Brooks (Ashley Crowden/FAW)
(FAW)
“He has a bright future ahead of him, so let’s talk.
“There’s a little bit of time between now and then (the Nations League squad being named), so we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.”
Harris, born in Jersey, also qualifies for England. But he was capped by Wales in several youth categories and scored against England in the Under-18s’ 1-1 draw in Newport last September.
Wales are confident that Harris will commit to them at a senior level, and FIFA’s decision to approve larger teams of 26 players for Qatar could earn him a World Cup passport.
We watched his games and he is doing very well. He is an absolute talent
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Post by insertname on Aug 29, 2022 13:48:21 GMT
Sounds like he could be involved in the Nation League matches: On Luke: Page said: “We’ve seen his games and he’s doing really well. “He is an absolute talent. I met with him and the family and he’s a great kid too. Wales manager Robert Page left the World Cup door open for David Brooks (Ashley Crowden/FAW) (FAW) “He has a bright future ahead of him, so let’s talk. “There’s a little bit of time between now and then (the Nations League squad being named), so we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.” Harris, born in Jersey, also qualifies for England. But he was capped by Wales in several youth categories and scored against England in the Under-18s’ 1-1 draw in Newport last September. Wales are confident that Harris will commit to them at a senior level, and FIFA’s decision to approve larger teams of 26 players for Qatar could earn him a World Cup passport. We watched his games and he is doing very well. He is an absolute talent Of all the players who aren’t really that involved at club level to get a World Cup spot I think my vote would go to him. The Colwill of 2022 you could say. Bit worrying that he got taken off at half time in the league cup though. With Fulham out of the league cup he’s not likely to play any senior football between now and the World Cup so no chance to put that half time substitution right |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2022 19:47:22 GMT
Another u23 game, another goal for Harris. It's Luke Harris vs Chem Campbell tonight, each scored in a 1-1 draw
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Post by underwood on Sept 5, 2022 20:25:44 GMT
These two, plus James from Birmingham, should be called up next week & shamelessly capped in injury time of the next two matches. We should be completely mercenary about it.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Sept 5, 2022 20:39:38 GMT
These two, plus James from Birmingham, should be called up next week & shamelessly capped in injury time of the next two matches. We should be completely mercenary about it. I can’t lie I’d be surprised if Chem commits to us. Would sum up the Bodin era if he didn’t. The other too I’m not too worried about allegiances-wise. |
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Post by underwood on Sept 5, 2022 20:42:41 GMT
These two, plus James from Birmingham, should be called up next week & shamelessly capped in injury time of the next two matches. We should be completely mercenary about it. I can’t lie I’d be surprised if Chem commits to us. Would sum up the Bodin era if he didn’t. The other too I’m not too worried about allegiances-wise. Well if we can’t convince someone to commit 2 months out from a World Cup, then they obviously don’t want to play for us, in which case we don’t want them. |
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Post by hooky on Sept 5, 2022 20:46:05 GMT
Luke Harris really is a machine in front of goal isn't he?
Surely can't be long before he gets a bit of game time at Fulham. Scoring goals with relative ease us not something you can coach - just ask Tyler Roberts and to a lesser extent Dan James. Dan produces so much for Wales and far more than most however!
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Post by bale-droed on Sept 5, 2022 21:08:03 GMT
These two, plus James from Birmingham, should be called up next week & shamelessly capped in injury time of the next two matches. We should be completely mercenary about it. That would literally achieve nothing. Eligibility rules changed years ago. Declan Rice is the biggest example but there’s dozens |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2022 21:15:43 GMT
Luke Harris really is a machine in front of goal isn't he? Surely can't be long before he gets a bit of game time at Fulham. Scoring goals with relative ease us not something you can coach - just ask Tyler Roberts and to a lesser extent Dan James. Dan produces so much for Wales and far more than most however! Certainly a goal-scoring machine at u23 level. Whether that translates to senior football is another matter entirely. He's a great prospect, but football is littered with top prospects who were banging them in at youth level, only to fail to make the step up |
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Post by saturn9 on Sept 5, 2022 21:28:29 GMT
He was heavily linked with Chelsea over the weekend. Idolised Lampard as a youngster apparently. So, just possibly lazy London journalism again.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 5, 2022 21:33:11 GMT
He was heavily linked with Chelsea over the weekend. Idolised Lampard as a youngster apparently. So, just possibly lazy London journalism again. Please no. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 5, 2022 21:41:56 GMT
Luke Harris really is a machine in front of goal isn't he? Surely can't be long before he gets a bit of game time at Fulham. Scoring goals with relative ease us not something you can coach - just ask Tyler Roberts and to a lesser extent Dan James. Dan produces so much for Wales and far more than most however! Certainly a goal-scoring machine at u23 level. Whether that translates to senior football is another matter entirely. He's a great prospect, but football is littered with top prospects who were banging them in at youth level, only to fail to make the step up Yes I don't think he should be getting near the pitch for us at senior level. It's exciting that he's doing so well in youth games, but he's only had 1 half of senior football so far. No idea whether he will translate just yet |
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Post by welshrover on Sept 5, 2022 21:44:17 GMT
So, we are four pages in, people are creaming themselves and as far as I can make out we don't know if this lad is eligible / has any desire to play for Wales.
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