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Post by marsvolta on Sept 5, 2022 22:12:38 GMT
So, we are four pages in, people are creaming themselves and as far as I can make out we don't know if this lad is eligible / has any desire to play for Wales. What do you mean? We Know he’s eligible because it’s been confirmed. He has already played for our under 18s and under 19s, is all set to be included in the next u21 squad and Page has directly named him as a possible youngster who can break into the senior squad. It doesn’t mean that England cant poach him of course but your two points about eligibility and desire certainly don’t apply. |
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Post by welshrover on Sept 6, 2022 7:59:26 GMT
So, we are four pages in, people are creaming themselves and as far as I can make out we don't know if this lad is eligible / has any desire to play for Wales. What do you mean? We Know he’s eligible because it’s been confirmed. He has already played for our under 18s and under 19s, is all set to be included in the next u21 squad and Page has directly named him as a possible youngster who can break into the senior squad. It doesn’t mean that England cant poach him of course but your two points about eligibility and desire certainly don’t apply. Apologies, must have got him mixed up with one of the other "duals" I just can't keep up anymore! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 14, 2022 7:30:17 GMT
First call up! Llongyfarchiadau!
First of many I imagine!
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 14, 2022 13:39:36 GMT
Just scored for Fulham u21s
His scoring record at youth level is insane. If, and it's a big if, he can replicate it at a senior level then we could have quite the player on our hands
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Post by welshfootball on Sept 14, 2022 13:58:10 GMT
Late sub against Belgium for his cap and some decent minutes against Poland? Probably too soon I know. It’s good to see him doing well for Fulham U21s.
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Post by territorial on Sept 14, 2022 15:52:47 GMT
There’s been talk of Channel Islanders without Welsh parentage links being tied only to England in the future. Under FIFA Rules, any Channel Islander who holds British Nationality is in principle entitled to represent any of the four British Associations. Otherwise, with the CI's not having their own National Team, players would be denied the opportunity to play international football.
And in the past there have been occasional examples of players with no obvious link to an Association choosing nonetheless to represent them. One example I know is Trevor Wood, a Jersey-born goalkeeper who gained a single NI cap while playing for Walsall, despite having no connection:
But I'm pretty sure that comparatively recently, the four Associations agreed to tighten the eligibility rules, such that a player needed to demonstrate a connection, such as ancestry (obviously), residence, education or (equally obviously) playing for a club within the jurisdiction of that Association.
It is highly unlikely that any player would be plucked straight from playing in the Channels Islands to represent one of the four Home Nationas, so that in the absence of ancestry, such a player is likely to qualify by one of those other routes.
While in the absence of even one of those eg a Channel Islander playing in continental Europe, then I believe England are the "default" option, on the basis that both the Jersey and Guernsey Football Associations are also County Members of the FA, while Jersey Bulls FC now play in the Combined Counties League in the English League system.
Meaning that if I'm correct, then 'Zingo' on page 1 of this thread must also be correct in saying that Harris has Welsh grandparents, otherwise he'd only be eligible to represent England, where he's been living for at least 5 years (played for Fulham U-12's?).
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Post by morg on Sept 14, 2022 16:53:26 GMT
Looks like his dad has a Welsh link of some kind as Zingo suggested
"Your performances have earned you several international call-ups. Captaining the Under-17s must have been memorable?
It’s really special. It’s something for my dad as well who loves Wales. It feels different to club football because you’re playing with lads you see less regularly. I personally love going away on international duty".
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Post by dragonsoccer on Sept 14, 2022 18:32:31 GMT
Confirmed as previously said - info is from someone close to the player/within the FA Wales ID system
No Wales links on heritage
Luke qualifies through the Channel Island rule
On the changes to the rule, as far as I know back 12-18 months ago talks were planned between the home nations. No news since then
There currently cannot see any future changes that would hopefully not affect eligibility - of course he is still eligible for other home nations etc
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Post by iot on Sept 14, 2022 19:04:59 GMT
Confirmed as previously said - info is from someone close to the player/within the FA Wales ID system No Wales links on heritage Luke qualifies through the Channel Island rule On the changes to the rule, as far as I know back 12-18 months ago talks were planned between the home nations. No news since then There currently cannot see any future changes that would hopefully not affect eligibility - of course he is still eligible for other home nations etc Strange one - No Wales links on heritage, and yet Harris says it's a really proud moment for his dad. Guessing there is some Welsh heritage there, but potentially another generation back so it doesn't count e.g. his dad's grandparent(s) possibly. |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Sept 14, 2022 19:22:57 GMT
Nothing strange about really
I can only go on what I have been told
which are his eligibility facts - as you said the quote could easily mean a generation back etc
there have plenty of players over the years who have eligibility too far back
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 14, 2022 19:45:26 GMT
A bit strange to be so enamoured with Wales if it there's no direct eligibility though
A quirk of being a Channel Islander perhaps?
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Post by morg on Sept 14, 2022 20:33:38 GMT
His Twitter feed seems very pro Welsh. Retweeted Michael Sheen.. Lots of stuff re Bale etc etc.. Has obviously bought in quite strongly if he has no connections. To be fair, who can blame him?
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 14, 2022 21:10:39 GMT
Confirmed as previously said - info is from someone close to the player/within the FA Wales ID system No Wales links on heritage Luke qualifies through the Channel Island rule On the changes to the rule, as far as I know back 12-18 months ago talks were planned between the home nations. No news since then There currently cannot see any future changes that would hopefully not affect eligibility - of course he is still eligible for other home nations etc Strange one - No Wales links on heritage, and yet Harris says it's a really proud moment for his dad. Guessing there is some Welsh heritage there, but potentially another generation back so it doesn't count e.g. his dad's grandparent(s) possibly. Could also be that his dad lived in Wales for a while. This would mean that he has a connection with Wales but not enough for FIFA eligibility |
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Post by Dubai Reds on Sept 15, 2022 4:57:52 GMT
Strange one - No Wales links on heritage, and yet Harris says it's a really proud moment for his dad. Guessing there is some Welsh heritage there, but potentially another generation back so it doesn't count e.g. his dad's grandparent(s) possibly. Could also be that his dad lived in Wales for a while. This would mean that he has a connection with Wales but not enough for FIFA eligibility That could make sense, can only speculate on the affiliation, he might explain it one day. His dad could have grandparents who are Welsh, moved there for a period as a kid then moved back to the Channel Islands. Who knows, but seems like Harris has more allegiance than the other Home Nations, which is great for us |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Sept 15, 2022 6:25:20 GMT
apologies all - did a bit of double of checking overnight, FAW confirm - Luke Harris - Welsh born grandparent #weallmakemistakes  |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 15, 2022 6:48:33 GMT
apologies all - did a bit of double of checking overnight, FAW confirm - Luke Harris - Welsh born grandparent #weallmakemistakes You do amazing work, you're excused the odd mistake!! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 15, 2022 6:49:35 GMT
Late sub against Belgium for his cap and some decent minutes against Poland? Probably too soon I know. It’s good to see him doing well for Fulham U21s. I think he will get a few minutes against Poland if we're not winning, or against Belgium if we are comfortably behins. Otherwise I can't see him getting any time |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 15, 2022 7:22:15 GMT
apologies all - did a bit of double of checking overnight, FAW confirm - Luke Harris - Welsh born grandparent #weallmakemistakes Haha, thanks for this. Am I right I’m saying that this makes him ineligible for any of the other home nations? (Presuming he hasn’t got other relatives born in England, Scotland or NI) |
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Post by iot on Sept 15, 2022 7:59:25 GMT
apologies all - did a bit of double of checking overnight, FAW confirm - Luke Harris - Welsh born grandparent #weallmakemistakes Haha, thanks for this. Am I right I’m saying that this makes him ineligible for any of the other home nations? (Presuming he hasn’t got other relatives born in England, Scotland or NI) If that assumption is correct, then yes under the channel islands rule mentioned earlier on here. But, I doubt that assumption is correct - I'd say he's odds-on to have an English grandparent at least. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 15, 2022 8:24:09 GMT
A bit strange to be so enamoured with Wales if it there's no direct eligibility though A quirk of being a Channel Islander perhaps? They didn't print the full comment. He went on to say they used to holiday in Portmydog. |
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Post by iot on Sept 15, 2022 8:27:52 GMT
A bit strange to be so enamoured with Wales if it there's no direct eligibility though A quirk of being a Channel Islander perhaps? They didn't print the full comment. He went on to say they used to holiday in Portmydog. Do you mean Porthmadog? If so, are you sure you're not confusing with Neco Williams? Because he's definitely said that he has family in Porthmadog and used to go on holiday there quite often when he was a kid. Strange coincidence if it's the same for both! |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 15, 2022 18:05:10 GMT
They didn't print the full comment. He went on to say they used to holiday in Portmydog. Do you mean Porthmadog? If so, are you sure you're not confusing with Neco Williams? Because he's definitely said that he has family in Porthmadog and used to go on holiday there quite often when he was a kid. Strange coincidence if it's the same for both! Nah just joking about. People tend to think Wales will take on anyone whose had a holiday in Rhyl. Portmydog is just what anyone outside Wales call Porthmadog. |
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Post by iot on Sept 15, 2022 19:55:21 GMT
Do you mean Porthmadog? If so, are you sure you're not confusing with Neco Williams? Because he's definitely said that he has family in Porthmadog and used to go on holiday there quite often when he was a kid. Strange coincidence if it's the same for both! Nah just joking about. People tend to think Wales will take on anyone whose had a holiday in Rhyl. Portmydog is just what anyone outside Wales call Porthmadog. Ah, that went completely over my head ha! |
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 16, 2022 14:23:55 GMT
Signed a pro deal with Fulham until 2025
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 16, 2022 20:26:59 GMT
Nah just joking about. People tend to think Wales will take on anyone whose had a holiday in Rhyl. Portmydog is just what anyone outside Wales call Porthmadog. Ah, that went completely over my head ha! He did say that he thinks Betsy Cohead and Clandidno is nice too. |
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Post by welshrover on Sept 16, 2022 21:13:36 GMT
Ah, that went completely over my head ha! He did say that he thinks Betsy Cohead and Clandidno is nice too. Clan is one of my pet hates! |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 17, 2022 4:49:40 GMT
He did say that he thinks Betsy Cohead and Clandidno is nice too. Clan is one of my pet hates! I never understand why people can't pronounce coed when they can pronounce joyed. Fair enough reading it off a sign but when they as you to help them pronounce it. |
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Post by morg on Sept 17, 2022 5:33:57 GMT
'Dowi' for 'Dewi' is the one that gets me. I just don't understand how anybody gets to that sound from seeing it written or from hearing it spoken!
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Post by maelor on Sept 17, 2022 8:29:24 GMT
'Dowi' for 'Dewi' is the one that gets me. I just don't understand how anybody gets to that sound from seeing it written or from hearing it spoken! Or 'Moldwyn' for 'Maldwyn' when no one has a problem saying, for example, 'malware'. But the one I hate the most (and there's plenty of competition) is people pronouncing Alun as though it is Alan (to rhyme with pun rather than pin). So lazy/disrespectful. Sorry, well off topic but cathartic! |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 20, 2022 22:48:18 GMT
He said in an interview yesterday that his fathers side is Welsh and his mothers side is Irish.
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