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Post by rangers15 on Mar 14, 2023 12:53:40 GMT
I like that squad... maybe Collins can feel a bit hard done by.
Anyone else tempted to not start Rambo and Johnson against Croatia to keep them fresh for Latvia?
its going to be backs to the wall anyway, so maybe something like:
-- Ward --
Roberts -- Mepham -- Rodon -- Davies -- Neco
-- Ampadu -- Morrell
-- Wilson
-- Moore -- James
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 14, 2023 12:57:38 GMT
Very light in midfield, 6 centre back options and 3 right wing backs feels like overkill if we only have 3 genuine central midfielders for 2 big games. I really don't want to see an undercooked Wilson shoehorned in there again
Good news about Brennan, Ramsey and Harris. Hopefully J.James, Bradshaw and Cooper can take their chance if they get one
I'm glad there's no Colwill and I hope he isn't in the u21 squad, he needs to stay at Cardiff and get back into the side. I think Aaron Collins has been a little hard done by, though I can see a squad update soon where he replaces Johnson...
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Post by talyfan on Mar 14, 2023 12:57:52 GMT
Only gripe and it's a small one I'm not going to lose sleep over, is Broadhead over Collins for me. Think given their both similar age and Collins having a great season think he might feel a bit hard done by. Imagine if anyone does drop out though attacking wise he's got be first to be called up.
Otherwise promising squad!!
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 14, 2023 12:59:17 GMT
I like that squad... maybe Collins can feel a bit hard done by. Anyone else tempted to not start Rambo and Johnson against Croatia to keep them fresh for Latvia? its going to be backs to the wall anyway, so maybe something like: -- Ward -- Roberts -- Mepham -- Rodon -- Davies -- Neco -- Ampadu -- Morrell -- Wilson -- Moore -- James We shouldn't bench our two best players against anyone imo |
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Post by talyfan on Mar 14, 2023 13:00:40 GMT
What's the cap for these squad selections? Called up 24 players think you're well within right to call up 26?
Does seem odd we've gone a bit light in central midfield when we can eek out the numbers a bit...
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Post by rushy on Mar 14, 2023 13:20:27 GMT
What I have seen of Collins I liked , so I take it that those chosen are better, we'll wait and see .
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Post by surge on Mar 14, 2023 13:31:50 GMT
I like that squad... maybe Collins can feel a bit hard done by. Anyone else tempted to not start Rambo and Johnson against Croatia to keep them fresh for Latvia? its going to be backs to the wall anyway, so maybe something like: -- Ward -- Roberts -- Mepham -- Rodon -- Davies -- Neco -- Ampadu -- Morrell -- Wilson -- Moore -- James I'm of similar thinking with how to manage Ramsey (and Johnson, if fit) with solid performance against Croatia and needing to win against Latvia. I'd probably pick following side against Croatia on basis of i) hints from DS suggest Johnson will need to drop out and ii) thinking how we can hurt them/stop them hurting us rather than who are best players are or what system we want to play. 2 full-backs who can step into midfield, two wingers with genuine pace, two forwards who will work hard and make opposition work hard too. Ward Roberts Mepham Davies Neco Thomas Morrell Ampadu James Moore Bradshaw |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 14, 2023 13:37:05 GMT
Feel a bit torn about the squad. Overall feeling positives but there are areas we've failed to address imo
We've only included 1 left footed player for LCB, LB & LWB. Sorba, Burns and Neco have all been playing on the right this season. Very imbalanced to me. I'd have liked to see Regan Poole instead of Burns
Also very light in midfield, I guess we're fine but another injury or suspension and you feel we'll have to call someone else in
Collins I feel sorry for but Broadhead is playing very well, if we get any injuries I imagine Collins will be the next one in
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 14, 2023 13:39:15 GMT
8 out 6 in from WC I think? Strange not to relplace all of them. In terms of midfield that's Allen, Smith & Levitt out (plus arguably Williams & Colwill) but onlyJames in? Bizarre
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Post by surge on Mar 14, 2023 13:46:27 GMT
Page did describe wanting to drop feed new faces. I guess this approach allows them more attention from coaches/support staff/senior player.
The alternative is picking players who have been there before but may not be in form, may be only just coming back to their sides following knocks etc.
I guess the main positive out of today's news is that after so many retirements, so many injuries, this squad isn't weaker than the one who should have drawn Poland and Netherlands away and did draw with Belgium at home.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 14, 2023 13:49:50 GMT
Ward
Mepham-Lockyer-Rodon
Connor-Ampadu-Morrell-Davies
Ramsey
Brennan-Moore
That's how I would start in Croatia with this squad. But would prefer Davies at LCB instead of Rodon, and a left footed LWB
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Post by gimli on Mar 14, 2023 14:00:52 GMT
It does seem like quite an unbalanced squad. I know we've had injuries, but the only out and out midfielders named are Ramsey, Morrell and JJames. Page must have Ampadu down as a midfielder first, but even then it's still very light considering Ramsey rarely plays as a deep midfielder for us. I'm expecting a midfield three of Morrell, Ampadu and Ramsey will be the starting lineup, but that doesn't leave much cover considering Wilson, Harris and Cooper only really play as CAMs, so James is our only cover for the deeper midfielders. We have 4 attacking midfielders and only 3 sitting ones. I suppose it could suggest we're planning on playing a 6 and two 8s, but I think only Ampadu can play the lone defensive mid position. Basically whatever happens, if Ampadu goes down we're screwed.
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Post by superunknown on Mar 14, 2023 14:04:35 GMT
Ward Mepham-Lockyer-Rodon Connor-Ampadu-Morrell-Davies Ramsey Brennan-Moore That's how I would start in Croatia with this squad. But would prefer Davies at LCB instead of Rodon, and a left footed LWB Similar but I don't we can afford to be too precious about left footed players playing on the left. I'd rather it but I really don't think we should be dropping Neco. We'll have few opportunities to get forward so I'd like one of our best attacking threats on the wing to start. |
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Post by surge on Mar 14, 2023 14:23:42 GMT
Just realised that Will Vaulks isn't in...
He's reportedly playing far more mature game now and having best season at top of League One because of it. I don't think he's impressed on international circuit on the pitch yet, his behaviour off the pitch always a good example, but with 3 CM's picked (plus Ramsey) this is the moment he's felt furthest away from things.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 14, 2023 16:22:31 GMT
My opinion is that Neco isn't one of our best attacking threats at the moment. He was quite poor at the World Cup, we barely created anything down the left, and he's barely played for Forest since the World Cup. I'd rather start a player who is getting regular minutes such as Burns or Sorba even. Better still, I'd rather play a Championship regular CB at LCB and use Davies where he's been playing for Spurs recently - as an orthodox wing back
For me it's criminal to be playing with 2 STs and not have the ability to go down the line and whip a cross in on one flank. Defeats the point in my opinion
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 14, 2023 16:26:00 GMT
Also, great to see Luke Harris in there! Should allay any fears around a switch of allegiance There never was a fear in the first place, just over-reactive speculation based on barely any information |
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Post by iot on Mar 14, 2023 16:32:22 GMT
Similar but I don't we can afford to be too precious about left footed players playing on the left. I'd rather it but I really don't think we should be dropping Neco. We'll have few opportunities to get forward so I'd like one of our best attacking threats on the wing to start. My opinion is that Neco isn't one of our best attacking threats at the moment. He was quite poor at the World Cup, we barely created anything down the left, and he's barely played for Forest since the World Cup. I'd rather start a player who is getting regular minutes such as Burns or Sorba even. Better still, I'd rather play a Championship regular CB at LCB and use Davies where he's been playing for Spurs recently - as an orthodox wing back For me it's criminal to be playing with 2 STs and not have the ability to go down the line and whip a cross in on one flank. Defeats the point in my opinion You know my feelings on this. I really do think if you would watch the games back you would form a different view. I would rate Neco as our third of fourth best player at the world cup and he was miles better than Connor on the opposite flank who really did have a proper stinker of a tournament. Neco's struggled a lot more this season than we would have wanted, but he has played four or five full games and many more substitute appearances since the world cup which is more minutes than many in our squad! I sort of see wher eyou're coming from re not having a left footer to swing in balls for Kieffer from that flank, but I do think you're making much more out of it than the impact it's actually having. Having Neco and Dan bombing down that left flank certainly did us no harm during the qualifiers and playoffs where Neco, in particular, was fantastic. Dan's also set up a few for Kieffer from that flank, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing someone else coming in for him. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 14, 2023 16:41:42 GMT
Neco was regular in the Championship when he played his best football for us, if we were getting that version of Neco I'd be fine with it. I just don't think he's played enough recently to deliver performances like that. I hope I eat my words, I'm just worried we won't make the most out of targeting Croatia's weaknesses
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Post by rushy on Mar 14, 2023 17:21:14 GMT
Neco being played out of position is not helping the boy, he is wasted on the left, RND is obviously not fit yet and that leaves Ben as the natural left sided player to play there. Naming the kid Harris is down to committing him to us, the midfield is a concern unless Page intends to use Ampadu as a holding player or we would be too open.
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Post by iot on Mar 14, 2023 17:28:25 GMT
Neco was regular in the Championship when he played his best football for us, if we were getting that version of Neco I'd be fine with it. I just don't think he's played enough recently to deliver performances like that. I hope I eat my words, I'm just worried we won't make the most out of targeting Croatia's weaknesses Not really, he was pulling off great performances for us long before he went to Fulham |
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Post by manulike on Mar 14, 2023 17:29:38 GMT
What's the cap for these squad selections? Called up 24 players think you're well within right to call up 26? Does seem odd we've gone a bit light in central midfield when we can eek out the numbers a bit... Very good point. As far as I know, there is no cap. The ROI often call up 33-34 players! And besides, that mid-field is one injury away from a disaster. Now that both Matt Smith and Dylan are missing - SURELY we need Vaulks in there for cover?? Unless I am missing something and J. James and/or L. Harris can pay the number 6 role as well?
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Post by talyfan on Mar 14, 2023 17:53:04 GMT
Yeah surprised me somewhat. Depends how we set up but if we play with Morrell and Ampadu you'd have thought we'd have players like for like off the bench to maintain the system.
There's too many differing scenarios but for instance if the game plan is going well against Croatia or Latvia but one them has to go off, we'd have to completely change shape almost or play Ramsey at holding midfielder which isn't his game either.
By the looks of it, the selection really suggests we'll set up with a three midfield of Ampadu at 6, Morrell at 8 and then Ramsey as the 10.
If Ampadu pulls up Morrell drops into there and Ramsey or Jordan James come in at 8.
Really don't think it would have been a bad idea. Surprised we've not called up the likes of Vaulks or Savage just to cover ourselves a bit.
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Post by talyfan on Mar 14, 2023 17:56:53 GMT
Likelihood is Morrell and Ampadu hopefully should be okay for both games.
But in the unlikely but not impossible event they both missed part of the Croatia game or Latvia we would seriously know about it!
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Post by manulike on Mar 14, 2023 18:01:14 GMT
Was that not the main lesson that we were meant to learn from the WC?
We were seriously light in mid-field with no plan b?
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 14, 2023 18:44:46 GMT
Looking at that squad I think it's clear that Neco will be used on the left unless he's tried as a wide midfielder, preferably in front of Roberts so they can interchange.
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 14, 2023 19:42:44 GMT
I've just seen the Scotland squad, I think ours is better, I'm concerned that they could be about to overtake us but there's a lot of ineffective dross in their ranks and some of it will be starting.
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Post by cadno on Mar 14, 2023 20:28:44 GMT
I’ve said it before and felt it for a long time now, something isn’t right about the FAW/men’s side . I think Page is a bit of a poor communicator sorry, as was Giggs… they’ve said all the right words at times but then gone against their word. There doesn’t seem to be clarity or a real plan and it seems a bit chaotic.
Hopefully now though Page has been able to reflect and will put his own stamp on things. Rambo as skipper is a good move imo
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Post by cadno on Mar 14, 2023 20:29:11 GMT
I've just seen the Scotland squad, I think ours is better, I'm concerned that they could be about to overtake us but there's a lot of ineffective dross in their ranks and some of it will be starting. I think scotlands is far better than ours |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 14, 2023 22:49:07 GMT
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Post by welshrover on Mar 14, 2023 22:56:21 GMT
Struggling to be excited about that squad to be honest.
I am not particularly pining after either player but are Matondo and free scoring T. Roberts injured?
Just re read the squad, is my favourite player Joe Morrell injured?
Sorry if these are basic questions, not been paying a lot of interest lately
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