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Post by llan123 on Aug 29, 2024 9:53:21 GMT
Initial plan was to stay in Budva for two nights and then night in Pod for the game. Half of us are ticketless, can't cancel the hotel in Pod either. Its a tough one for our group now and I know a lot of other people are in a similar situation, some with partners who didn't have a ticket but were comfortable travelling to Pod to watch the game on their own. Not as straightforward now.
I haven't seen any condemnation of the Montenegrin FA from the FAW, just the usual "we will make the best of a bad situation". Its really a total shitshow and would not have happened to Spain, Italy, Germany, England etc as they would have just gone straight to UEFA and demanded a resolution way before we got to this point. I think we are way too accomodating and nice in these situation and we are constantly getting fucked over.
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Post by abercymru on Aug 29, 2024 10:04:59 GMT
Initial plan was to stay in Budva for two nights and then night in Pod for the game. Half of us are ticketless, can't cancel the hotel in Pod either. Its a tough one for our group now and I know a lot of other people are in a similar situation, some with partners who didn't have a ticket but were comfortable travelling to Pod to watch the game on their own. Not as straightforward now. I haven't seen any condemnation of the Montenegrin FA from the FAW, just the usual "we will make the best of a bad situation". Its really a total shitshow and would not have happened to Spain, Italy, Germany, England etc as they would have just gone straight to UEFA and demanded a resolution way before we got to this point. I think we are way too accomodating and nice in these situation and we are constantly getting fucked over. Yea, I'm not sure they understand (or acknowledge at best) how much of an issue it is for fans. It isn't just a case of 700 fans having to go an extra 40 miles (80 round trip if returning to Podgorica) for the game, which is a problem enough itself with the lack of transport options. It's all the extra too who booked in the hope of getting tickets, spread across various cities, as you've pointed out. Especially with how ridiculously short notice it is. Totally agree too that you wouldn't see this from some of the other nations. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Aug 29, 2024 15:31:09 GMT
Initial plan was to stay in Budva for two nights and then night in Pod for the game. Half of us are ticketless, can't cancel the hotel in Pod either. Its a tough one for our group now and I know a lot of other people are in a similar situation, some with partners who didn't have a ticket but were comfortable travelling to Pod to watch the game on their own. Not as straightforward now. I haven't seen any condemnation of the Montenegrin FA from the FAW, just the usual "we will make the best of a bad situation". Its really a total shitshow and would not have happened to Spain, Italy, Germany, England etc as they would have just gone straight to UEFA and demanded a resolution way before we got to this point. I think we are way too accomodating and nice in these situation and we are constantly getting fucked over. We are doing exactly the same, luckily we booked both apartments with the cancellation option, ive booked a night in niksic, we are definitely staying in budva for 2 nights but we are still 50/50 on either staying in niksic or getting a bus/taxi back to Podgorica as we are flying back from there on the Tuesday afternoon. I totally agree with your second paragraph 🙄 |
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Post by barneycat1 on Aug 29, 2024 15:32:16 GMT
Initial plan was to stay in Budva for two nights and then night in Pod for the game. Half of us are ticketless, can't cancel the hotel in Pod either. Its a tough one for our group now and I know a lot of other people are in a similar situation, some with partners who didn't have a ticket but were comfortable travelling to Pod to watch the game on their own. Not as straightforward now. I haven't seen any condemnation of the Montenegrin FA from the FAW, just the usual "we will make the best of a bad situation". Its really a total shitshow and would not have happened to Spain, Italy, Germany, England etc as they would have just gone straight to UEFA and demanded a resolution way before we got to this point. I think we are way too accomodating and nice in these situation and we are constantly getting fucked over. Absolutely agree. The FAW really have no idea and don't give a toss about their fans. It's disgusting the way they go about things. They have had over 6 months to sort this one. |
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Post by superunknown on Aug 29, 2024 16:01:20 GMT
I know money isn’t infinite but we really need to be going out there further in advance than a couple of weeks. Realistically we’ve probably got away with it for a while but when something like the pitch being unplayable or there being safety concerns in the stands we need to know that much further in advance. As soon as the venue is confirmed we should be looking at doing multiple trips if necessary to ensure everything is up to scratch to avoid a situation like this. Absolute nightmare but because it’s us we just have to grin and bear it.
Lucky it’s Iceland next, probably be alright with that one
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Post by felinessex on Aug 29, 2024 16:05:16 GMT
Initial plan was to stay in Budva for two nights and then night in Pod for the game. Half of us are ticketless, can't cancel the hotel in Pod either. Its a tough one for our group now and I know a lot of other people are in a similar situation, some with partners who didn't have a ticket but were comfortable travelling to Pod to watch the game on their own. Not as straightforward now. I haven't seen any condemnation of the Montenegrin FA from the FAW, just the usual "we will make the best of a bad situation". Its really a total shitshow and would not have happened to Spain, Italy, Germany, England etc as they would have just gone straight to UEFA and demanded a resolution way before we got to this point. I think we are way too accomodating and nice in these situation and we are constantly getting fucked over. Absolutely agree. The FAW really have no idea and don't give a toss about their fans. It's disgusting the way they go about things. They have had over 6 months to sort this one. Agree that the Welsh FA should have sorted things earlier, communicated the potential problems and been banging the table and insisting that a statement be included in the venue change announcement. Stating that ticketing and transport arrangements for travelling fans would be sorted. Not saying afterwards as they have, we’re gonna have a word with them. Asked the landlord of our accommodation in Pod if he’d find out what the local ticket sales arrangements were, now that the venue had changed. He was surprised I was concerned. Pffft, pay at the door was his suggestion. He promised to find out. Watch this space. Is Leigh’s bash at the Welder in Pod still happening ? Not seen anything confirming. At least we have a week in Budva after the game, to chill and party, so not a total disaster trip for us. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 29, 2024 16:25:01 GMT
I know money isn’t infinite but we really need to be going out there further in advance than a couple of weeks. Realistically we’ve probably got away with it for a while but when something like the pitch being unplayable or there being safety concerns in the stands we need to know that much further in advance. As soon as the venue is confirmed we should be looking at doing multiple trips if necessary to ensure everything is up to scratch to avoid a situation like this. Absolute nightmare but because it’s us we just have to grin and bear it. Lucky it’s Iceland next, probably be alright with that one Unless there is another volcanic eruption.... |
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Post by superunknown on Aug 29, 2024 16:25:55 GMT
I know money isn’t infinite but we really need to be going out there further in advance than a couple of weeks. Realistically we’ve probably got away with it for a while but when something like the pitch being unplayable or there being safety concerns in the stands we need to know that much further in advance. As soon as the venue is confirmed we should be looking at doing multiple trips if necessary to ensure everything is up to scratch to avoid a situation like this. Absolute nightmare but because it’s us we just have to grin and bear it. Lucky it’s Iceland next, probably be alright with that one Unless there is another volcanic eruption.... God don’t, but if it was going to happen to anyone it’d be us wouldn’t it |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 29, 2024 16:29:54 GMT
Its almost guaranteed
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Post by eppingblue1 on Aug 29, 2024 16:54:27 GMT
I know money isn’t infinite but we really need to be going out there further in advance than a couple of weeks. Realistically we’ve probably got away with it for a while but when something like the pitch being unplayable or there being safety concerns in the stands we need to know that much further in advance. As soon as the venue is confirmed we should be looking at doing multiple trips if necessary to ensure everything is up to scratch to avoid a situation like this. Absolute nightmare but because it’s us we just have to grin and bear it. Lucky it’s Iceland next, probably be alright with that one Unless there is another volcanic eruption.... Fully expecting one ! And the Turkish Taliban to ban all alcohol in Kayseri as well as requiring that.anyone entering the ground must be sporting a full beard |
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 29, 2024 19:42:36 GMT
As much of a shambles the whole thing has been just send the tickets out in the post. Only stage 1 and 2 got tickets there be nobody harvesting tickets they will all be going. Get a grip. The Montenegrin FA can't organise something as simple as watering a pitch weeks in advance of a match. What makes you think that they will have the capability to print off 700 tickets and then get them over to Wales a week in advance so that the FAW can then dish them out? |
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Post by manulike on Aug 29, 2024 19:55:13 GMT
As much of a shambles the whole thing has been just send the tickets out in the post. Only stage 1 and 2 got tickets there be nobody harvesting tickets they will all be going. Get a grip. The Montenegrin FA can't organise something as simple as watering a pitch weeks in advance of a match. What makes you think that they will have the capability to print off 700 tickets and then get them over to Wales a week in advance so that the FAW can then dish them out? Pretty sure that I read that the Niksic stadium doesn't have ticket scanners on their gates. So all they need to do, is tell the big mamas on the gates to look at passports and to allow anyone with names that dont end with vic in! |
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Post by felinessex on Aug 29, 2024 21:28:34 GMT
Get a grip. The Montenegrin FA can't organise something as simple as watering a pitch weeks in advance of a match. What makes you think that they will have the capability to print off 700 tickets and then get them over to Wales a week in advance so that the FAW can then dish them out? Pretty sure that I read that the Niksic stadium doesn't have ticket scanners on their gates. So all they need to do, is tell the big mamas on the gates to look at passports and to allow anyone with names that dont end with vic in! I don’t think they even have turnstiles. Installing “combs” which I assume are turnstiles, was one of the reported requirements for the Niksic venue to be deemed acceptable. Given the track record of Montenegrin project management to date, everything should go like clockwork. A comment on one of the Montenegrin forums included a response to the effect, “hopefully UEFA’s final inspection is undertaken with their hands over their eyes, as must have been the case in Podgorica for years.” |
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Post by selsigdeganwy on Aug 30, 2024 7:22:07 GMT
Get a grip. The Montenegrin FA can't organise something as simple as watering a pitch weeks in advance of a match. What makes you think that they will have the capability to print off 700 tickets and then get them over to Wales a week in advance so that the FAW can then dish them out? Pretty sure that I read that the Niksic stadium doesn't have ticket scanners on their gates. So all they need to do, is tell the big mamas on the gates to look at passports and to allow anyone with names that dont end with vic in! Montenegro FA confirm that their HP printer is bust. |
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Post by manulike on Aug 30, 2024 10:24:07 GMT
Cultural events - anything?
Has anyone found any hints of worth-while culture in the country between 10-16 September? Can't seem to find anything ... not even Trash metal ;-( Nada.
Best I can come up with is a silly people's bike meet-up 14-15 September "Aniversário Aos olhos de um Motociclista"
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Post by felinessex on Aug 30, 2024 11:37:38 GMT
Received from Wonky.
Hi all
Thanks for your responses regarding the potential coach transfers to the match in Niksic on 9th September.
Following discussions with the FAW, FSA Cymru and other relevant partners, free coaches will be put on for supporters with match tickets to get you from Podgorica to the game in Niksic and back.
You’ll receive a wristband when you collect your match ticket from the FAW collection point which you’ll need to wear in order to board the bus, as well as show your ticket.
Further details about departure times and departure location are expected towards the end of next week following another site visit and discussions with police. However, as a guide we’re looking at 18:15 meet for 18:30 departure from Podgorica.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Aug 30, 2024 12:02:04 GMT
Received from Wonky. Hi all Thanks for your responses regarding the potential coach transfers to the match in Niksic on 9th September. Following discussions with the FAW, FSA Cymru and other relevant partners, free coaches will be put on for supporters with match tickets to get you from Podgorica to the game in Niksic and back. You’ll receive a wristband when you collect your match ticket from the FAW collection point which you’ll need to wear in order to board the bus, as well as show your ticket. Further details about departure times and departure location are expected towards the end of next week following another site visit and discussions with police. However, as a guide we’re looking at 18:15 meet for 18:30 departure from Podgorica. Great for ticket holders, what about the rest who are traveling? |
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Post by felinessex on Aug 30, 2024 12:04:00 GMT
Cultural events - anything?
Has anyone found any hints of worth-while culture in the country between 10-16 September? Can't seem to find anything ... not even Trash metal ;-( Nada.
Best I can come up with is a silly people's bike meet-up 14-15 September "Aniversário Aos olhos de um Motociclista"
Here’s a link to the English language translation of the What’s on in Budva in September page. Lots of riveting stuff. It would appear that cultural events are as rare as playable football pitches in Montenegro. The site also has links to local bus services in the Budva area, which may be of use to those wishing to visit one of the 2 oldest olive trees on the Adriatic. In the village of Ivanovici, near Budva, there is an olive tree about 2000 years old, which is with the olive tree in Bar, considered as one of the oldest in the Adriatic. Its circumference in the root neck is 12.5 meters, the trunk is 4 meters in diameter, and the tree is 10 meters high. Open the menu and hit the English language option at the bottom of the page. budva.travel/ |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 30, 2024 12:17:20 GMT
In other "must see" places and events Novak Djokovic has a summer house along the coast!
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Post by welrus on Aug 30, 2024 12:19:31 GMT
Good news! Free buses for ticket holders (not applicable to those on Leigh James buses). Just came out on a Wonky email.
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 30, 2024 12:42:50 GMT
FAW confirmed wristbands will be given on collection of tickets to board buses to the game and back.
A good solution and probably a ball ache to organise. I hope Montenegro are paying for it
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Post by manulike on Aug 30, 2024 16:33:08 GMT
Cultural events - anything?
Has anyone found any hints of worth-while culture in the country between 10-16 September? Can't seem to find anything ... not even Trash metal ;-( Nada.
Best I can come up with is a silly people's bike meet-up 14-15 September "Aniversário Aos olhos de um Motociclista"
Here’s a link to the English language translation of the What’s on in Budva in September page. Lots of riveting stuff. It would appear that cultural events are as rare as playable football pitches in Montenegro. The site also has links to local bus services in the Budva area, which may be of use to those wishing to visit one of the 2 oldest olive trees on the Adriatic. In the village of Ivanovici, near Budva, there is an olive tree about 2000 years old, which is with the olive tree in Bar, considered as one of the oldest in the Adriatic. Its circumference in the root neck is 12.5 meters, the trunk is 4 meters in diameter, and the tree is 10 meters high. Open the menu and hit the English language option at the bottom of the page. budva.travel/Thanks for the link - that is riverting stuff indeed... As for the olive tree - I was reading that a guy has fenced off the one outside Bar and is charging people €15 to see it! That said, old Bar looks worth seeing - and the train ride there is certainly worth doing  |
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Post by Sam Tan on Aug 30, 2024 23:47:16 GMT
Received from Wonky. Hi all Thanks for your responses regarding the potential coach transfers to the match in Niksic on 9th September. Following discussions with the FAW, FSA Cymru and other relevant partners, free coaches will be put on for supporters with match tickets to get you from Podgorica to the game in Niksic and back. You’ll receive a wristband when you collect your match ticket from the FAW collection point which you’ll need to wear in order to board the bus, as well as show your ticket. Further details about departure times and departure location are expected towards the end of next week following another site visit and discussions with police. However, as a guide we’re looking at 18:15 meet for 18:30 departure from Podgorica. Great for ticket holders, what about the rest who are traveling? What exactly do you expect. You’re travelling through your own choice without a ticket. The FAW cannot pay for every Tom dick and Harry travelling without a ticket. |
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Post by felinessex on Aug 31, 2024 1:47:37 GMT
Great for ticket holders, what about the rest who are traveling? What exactly do you expect. You’re travelling through your own choice without a ticket. The FAW cannot pay for every Tom dick and Harry travelling without a ticket. Sorry but that’s a bit insulting. The FAW know, or should do, that hundreds are travelling without tickets, because travel arrangements were made by many, long before ticket availability criteria was known. Arrangements were made to accommodate those fans without tickets in Podgorica (thanks Leigh) Now you suggest they are just an irrelevance ? I also doubt many are called Tom, Dick, or Harry. The FAW should recognise how many of their beloved “Red Wall” are travelling out there and make sure they are accommodated and safe. The change of venue is out of all our control, but to ignore the impact on ticketless travelling fans, is only something that a Dick would do. Not so sure what Tom and Harry would think ! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 31, 2024 6:47:34 GMT
You’re coming across as very entitled. They have made sure fans with tickets can get to the game and back to where it was supposed to be staged. If you still want to travel there without a ticket, that’s your choice.
UEFA have probably had input in the decision as well, the ground has never been used for an international before, they won’t want the FAW bussing in 100s of ticketless fans.
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 31, 2024 7:28:13 GMT
Here’s a link to the English language translation of the What’s on in Budva in September page. Lots of riveting stuff. It would appear that cultural events are as rare as playable football pitches in Montenegro. The site also has links to local bus services in the Budva area, which may be of use to those wishing to visit one of the 2 oldest olive trees on the Adriatic. In the village of Ivanovici, near Budva, there is an olive tree about 2000 years old, which is with the olive tree in Bar, considered as one of the oldest in the Adriatic. Its circumference in the root neck is 12.5 meters, the trunk is 4 meters in diameter, and the tree is 10 meters high. Open the menu and hit the English language option at the bottom of the page. budva.travel/Thanks for the link - that is riverting stuff indeed... As for the olive tree - I was reading that a guy has fenced off the one outside Bar and is charging people €15 to see it!That said, old Bar looks worth seeing - and the train ride there is certainly worth doing Not the first time that it has happened either. Even in Joni Mitchell's time, they were putting all the trees in a tree museum and charging everyone a dollar and a half just to see 'em. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Aug 31, 2024 9:15:32 GMT
It's great to see fellow wales fans stick up for each other 👍
FYI I've been to quite a few games in the last 2 years but not got a ticket in the away end but got one in the home end, the allocations are the problem, I can't get up the stages as this is the reason, sorry for being an irrelevance, I will still enjoy the trip though.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Aug 31, 2024 9:16:36 GMT
Sorry but that’s a bit insulting. The FAW know, or should do, that hundreds are travelling without tickets, because travel arrangements were made by many, long before ticket availability criteria was known. Arrangements were made to accommodate those fans without tickets in Podgorica (thanks Leigh) Now you suggest they are just an irrelevance ? I also doubt many are called Tom, Dick, or Harry. The FAW should recognise how many of their beloved “Red Wall” are travelling out there and make sure they are accommodated and safe. The change of venue is out of all our control, but to ignore the impact on ticketless travelling fans, is only something that a Dick would do. Not so sure what Tom and Harry would think ! Cheers H, see you in niksic mate 👍 |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Aug 31, 2024 9:19:38 GMT
You’re coming across as very entitled. They have made sure fans with tickets can get to the game and back to where it was supposed to be staged. If you still want to travel there without a ticket, that’s your choice. UEFA have probably had input in the decision as well, the ground has never been used for an international before, they won’t want the FAW bussing in 100s of ticketless fans. We always travel even if we don't get tickets, as I've said in my previous post, I can't get up the stages because of the allocation problem, sorry for thinking I am entitled. |
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Post by welrus on Aug 31, 2024 17:36:02 GMT
You’re coming across as very entitled. They have made sure fans with tickets can get to the game and back to where it was supposed to be staged. If you still want to travel there without a ticket, that’s your choice. UEFA have probably had input in the decision as well, the ground has never been used for an international before, they won’t want the FAW bussing in 100s of ticketless fans. We always travel even if we don't get tickets, as I've said in my previous post, I can't get up the stages because of the allocation problem, sorry for thinking I am entitled. I don’t think fans travelling without tickets are irrelevant. All credit to you for having that commitment and I’m sure I’d be frustrated. But it is unrealistic to expect the FAW to do something like provide free buses for ticketless fans. I’m sure they know there are ticketless fans travelling but there’s no way of them knowing how many. Plus an FA bussing in ticketless fans to a town / match would definitely be frowned upon. I can’t imagine any FA doing that. This is not a problem of the FAW’s making. I’d argue we should never have got to this position, but now we are, the FAW have done pretty well in managing it, with all the allocation maintained and free buses. Hope you enjoy the trip anyway. |
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