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Post by iot on Jun 25, 2024 7:57:24 GMT
Or you could just stop repeating yourself? You've made your point now 7-8 times and all that's developed in that time is whether you should be able to make your point or not. Other people want to read/use this board too. Some will agree with you, some won't, but I suspect the majority will be tired of you dominating things with your repeated viewpoint. Especially after your last post in the thread (single - oh no, you can't escape it) on women's football was deleted when you posted after the thread had been politely asked to move on. For those disagreeing, maybe one post simply saying he's wrong and then multiple thumbs up for that post? P.s. Geoff Norcott was the conservative comedian on the (largely leftie) Mash Report comedy show. That was a good segment. Looky here, it's another lefty wet-wipe getting offended 🙄 I've made 9 posts in 4 pages of this thread. I'm hardly the one dominating or repeating myself here. But if the volume of posts is a problem for you why don't you go tell your gender pronoun buddies to stop using women's football as a platform to virtue signal, particularly when it has no relevance whatsoever to the thread. That's generally a good way to stop people interjecting with hurtful common sense 👍 I can't believe this isn't parody at this point. I'm sure you see yourself as someone who can see through the bullshit, you think a lot in society have fallen into a kind of woke nonsense group think and you're one of those who has the critical thinking skills to see the world for what it is. Another poster shared similar views about how people have become brainwashed, but perhaps just consider for a moment that you might be thinking about this whole thing the wrong way around. If you go through your posts, can you genuinely say there's anything original thinking in there? They're full of the buzzwords you see posted all of the time and 90% are posted by a very particular demographic. Just consider why that would be - is it because young people these days are all brainwashed into this woke frame of mind and are perpetually offended by everything, or is it the same you'll get in any generation where things move on and some people struggle with it? I mean, reading your posts is like playing Reform / Daily Mail bingo: 'Lefty wetwipe' - bing Moaning about gender pronouns - bing 'virtue signal' - bing 'woke movement' - bing portraying yourself as just talking common sense - bing accusing others of being overly offended and shutting down debate, while doing precisely those things yourself - bing You will see those talking points and contradictions written in the pages of the Daily Mail every day of the week. There's no original thinking displayed there I'm afraid, so you should ask yourself who really is the brainwashed one here. Anyway, so what do people think about Graham Potter? A realistic option or not?... |
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Post by welshrover on Jun 25, 2024 8:00:40 GMT
Looky here, it's another lefty wet-wipe getting offended 🙄 I've made 9 posts in 4 pages of this thread. I'm hardly the one dominating or repeating myself here. But if the volume of posts is a problem for you why don't you go tell your gender pronoun buddies to stop using women's football as a platform to virtue signal, particularly when it has no relevance whatsoever to the thread. That's generally a good way to stop people interjecting with hurtful common sense 👍 I can't believe this isn't parody at this point. I'm sure you see yourself as someone who can see through the bullshit, you think a lot in society have fallen into a kind of woke nonsense group think and you're one of those who has the critical thinking skills to see the world for what it is. Another poster shared similar views about how people have become brainwashed, but perhaps just consider for a moment that you might be thinking about this whole thing the wrong way around. If you go through your posts, can you genuinely say there's anything original thinking in there? They're full of the buzzwords you see posted all of the time and 90% are posted by a very particular demographic. Just consider why that would be - is it because young people these days are all brainwashed into this woke frame of mind and are perpetually offended by everything, or is it the same you'll get in any generation where things move on and some people struggle with it? I mean, reading your posts is like playing Reform / Daily Mail bingo: 'Lefty wetwipe' - bing Moaning about gender pronouns - bing 'virtue signal' - bing 'woke movement' - bing portraying yourself as just talking common sense - bing accusing others of being overly offended and shutting down debate, while doing precisely those things yourself - bing You will see those talking points and contradictions written in the pages of the Daily Mail every day of the week. There's no original thinking displayed there I'm afraid, so you should ask yourself who really is the brainwashed one here. Anyway, so what do people think about Graham Potter? A realistic option or not?... Obviously you are one of their readers as you are so well versed with their terminology 🙂 |
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Post by talyfan on Jun 25, 2024 8:14:57 GMT
Read on dragonsoccer Mark Hughes wanting a new challenge. Still keen and hungry for it.
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Post by iot on Jun 25, 2024 8:22:41 GMT
Read on dragonsoccer Mark Hughes wanting a new challenge. Still keen and hungry for it. Please no. I'm sure he'd jump at the opportunity having recently been sacked by a L2 club, but with the direction his career is going in (including several unimpressive stints in his most recent jobs) and the way the likes of Gabbidon have been very vocal in their criticism of his management style, I really don't think it would be a good move. |
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Post by iot on Jun 25, 2024 8:26:29 GMT
I can't believe this isn't parody at this point. I'm sure you see yourself as someone who can see through the bullshit, you think a lot in society have fallen into a kind of woke nonsense group think and you're one of those who has the critical thinking skills to see the world for what it is. Another poster shared similar views about how people have become brainwashed, but perhaps just consider for a moment that you might be thinking about this whole thing the wrong way around. If you go through your posts, can you genuinely say there's anything original thinking in there? They're full of the buzzwords you see posted all of the time and 90% are posted by a very particular demographic. Just consider why that would be - is it because young people these days are all brainwashed into this woke frame of mind and are perpetually offended by everything, or is it the same you'll get in any generation where things move on and some people struggle with it? I mean, reading your posts is like playing Reform / Daily Mail bingo: 'Lefty wetwipe' - bing Moaning about gender pronouns - bing 'virtue signal' - bing 'woke movement' - bing portraying yourself as just talking common sense - bing accusing others of being overly offended and shutting down debate, while doing precisely those things yourself - bing You will see those talking points and contradictions written in the pages of the Daily Mail every day of the week. There's no original thinking displayed there I'm afraid, so you should ask yourself who really is the brainwashed one here. Anyway, so what do people think about Graham Potter? A realistic option or not?... Obviously you are one of their readers as you are so well versed with their terminology 🙂 Ha, not quite! But it's not difficult to have a sense of what goes on in those papers when that type of lexicon is plastered over the papers in their front page headlines and when it comes through in various paper review segments, talk shows and panel discussions involving 'journalists' from those papers etc. They're certainly loud and influential enough for it to come across my radar. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 8:30:31 GMT
Looky here, it's another lefty wet-wipe getting offended 🙄 I've made 9 posts in 4 pages of this thread. I'm hardly the one dominating or repeating myself here. But if the volume of posts is a problem for you why don't you go tell your gender pronoun buddies to stop using women's football as a platform to virtue signal, particularly when it has no relevance whatsoever to the thread. That's generally a good way to stop people interjecting with hurtful common sense 👍 I can't believe this isn't parody at this point. I'm sure you see yourself as someone who can see through the bullshit, you think a lot in society have fallen into a kind of woke nonsense group think and you're one of those who has the critical thinking skills to see the world for what it is. Another poster shared similar views about how people have become brainwashed, but perhaps just consider for a moment that you might be thinking about this whole thing the wrong way around. If you go through your posts, can you genuinely say there's anything original thinking in there? They're full of the buzzwords you see posted all of the time and 90% are posted by a very particular demographic. Just consider why that would be - is it because young people these days are all brainwashed into this woke frame of mind and are perpetually offended by everything, or is it the same you'll get in any generation where things move on and some people struggle with it? I mean, reading your posts is like playing Reform / Daily Mail bingo: 'Lefty wetwipe' - bing Moaning about gender pronouns - bing 'virtue signal' - bing 'woke movement' - bing portraying yourself as just talking common sense - bing accusing others of being overly offended and shutting down debate, while doing precisely those things yourself - bing You will see those talking points and contradictions written in the pages of the Daily Mail every day of the week. There's no original thinking displayed there I'm afraid, so you should ask yourself who really is the brainwashed one here. Anyway, so what do people think about Graham Potter? A realistic option or not?... It's funny I get accused of going on and repeating myself but for every one of my posts there's about 6 of these ☝️😂 Please show me where I've been offended by something or even attempted to shut down debate. Think you may be confusing my posts with someone else's. But yes, change happens all the time and it's perfectly normal. Not all change is for the better though and that's the misconception a lot of people have. |
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Post by iot on Jun 25, 2024 8:34:22 GMT
I can't believe this isn't parody at this point. I'm sure you see yourself as someone who can see through the bullshit, you think a lot in society have fallen into a kind of woke nonsense group think and you're one of those who has the critical thinking skills to see the world for what it is. Another poster shared similar views about how people have become brainwashed, but perhaps just consider for a moment that you might be thinking about this whole thing the wrong way around. If you go through your posts, can you genuinely say there's anything original thinking in there? They're full of the buzzwords you see posted all of the time and 90% are posted by a very particular demographic. Just consider why that would be - is it because young people these days are all brainwashed into this woke frame of mind and are perpetually offended by everything, or is it the same you'll get in any generation where things move on and some people struggle with it? I mean, reading your posts is like playing Reform / Daily Mail bingo: 'Lefty wetwipe' - bing Moaning about gender pronouns - bing 'virtue signal' - bing 'woke movement' - bing portraying yourself as just talking common sense - bing accusing others of being overly offended and shutting down debate, while doing precisely those things yourself - bing You will see those talking points and contradictions written in the pages of the Daily Mail every day of the week. There's no original thinking displayed there I'm afraid, so you should ask yourself who really is the brainwashed one here. Anyway, so what do people think about Graham Potter? A realistic option or not?... It's funny I get accused of going on and repeating myself but for every one of my posts there's about 6 of these ☝️😂 Please show me where I've been offended by something or even attempted to shut down debate. Think you may be confusing my posts with someone else's. But yes, change happens all the time and it's perfectly normal. Not all change is for the better though and that's the misconception a lot of people have. 'change happens all the time and it's perfectly normal. Not all change is for the better though and that's the misconception a lot of people have' Finally something we can agree on ha! It's just that I think this particular change (i.e. more opportunities given to women to work in football and promoting the women's game) is a very good change and entirely logical, which is why it will happen more and more imo despite some of the inevitable resistance. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 8:35:53 GMT
Must've been scouring on here DragonBet I see they've got Bobby Gould surprisingly short at 100/1. What do they know? 👀 |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 8:52:06 GMT
It's funny I get accused of going on and repeating myself but for every one of my posts there's about 6 of these ☝️😂 Please show me where I've been offended by something or even attempted to shut down debate. Think you may be confusing my posts with someone else's. But yes, change happens all the time and it's perfectly normal. Not all change is for the better though and that's the misconception a lot of people have. 'change happens all the time and it's perfectly normal. Not all change is for the better though and that's the misconception a lot of people have' Finally something we can agree on ha! It's just that I think this particular change (i.e. more opportunities given to women to work in football and promoting the women's game) is a very good change and entirely logical, which is why it will happen more and more imo despite some of the inevitable resistance. Yeah why does it have to happen though? And what would a female manager have to offer the men's game? Those are the questions. The opportunities for women to work in football will come in the women's game, which everyone's working hard to develop right now. Pushing them into managerial roles in the men's game would seem like more of a political gesture than any logical footballing decision. |
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Post by talyfan on Jun 25, 2024 9:31:26 GMT
Read on dragonsoccer Mark Hughes wanting a new challenge. Still keen and hungry for it. Please no. I'm sure he'd jump at the opportunity having recently been sacked by a L2 club, but with the direction his career is going in (including several unimpressive stints in his most recent jobs) and the way the likes of Gabbidon have been very vocal in their criticism of his management style, I really don't think it would be a good move. By the sounds of all that then he'd make a perfect candidate for the job  |
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Post by selsigdeganwy on Jun 25, 2024 9:46:16 GMT
I think it would be a mistake to go for a manager with bushy eyebrows. |
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Post by surge on Jun 25, 2024 10:30:15 GMT
Read on dragonsoccer Mark Hughes wanting a new challenge. Still keen and hungry for it. The article seems mostly to be a Bradford City local paper reporting Hughes speaking in the Sun about him feeling aggrieved about his sacking. Sometimes people and papers just like the attention...but I am so desperate for news I always click anyway!! I don't think Hughes is on the cards, thankfully. I would be very happy to see him as a pundit more often though, I think he's got a bit about him under that career choice. |
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Post by iot on Jun 25, 2024 10:30:26 GMT
'change happens all the time and it's perfectly normal. Not all change is for the better though and that's the misconception a lot of people have' Finally something we can agree on ha! It's just that I think this particular change (i.e. more opportunities given to women to work in football and promoting the women's game) is a very good change and entirely logical, which is why it will happen more and more imo despite some of the inevitable resistance. Yeah why does it have to happen though? And what would a female manager have to offer the men's game? Those are the questions. The opportunities for women to work in football will come in the women's game, which everyone's working hard to develop right now. Pushing them into managerial roles in the men's game would seem like more of a political gesture than any logical footballing decision. I don't think it has to happen and I don't think it will be pushed. There's a strong case that the inclusion of female presenters / pundits should be encouraged because it makes the game more appealing, relatable and accessible to women and girls. It removes it from being a boys club. But even then, it also makes commercial sense so it's not necessarily positive discrimination, but a commercially-driven decision. I'm sure ITV as a commercial entity will have done plenty of market research on this to show that there is a demand for it, despite what the loud minority from a certain demographic will shout about on Twitter. The inclusion of women in refereeing and coaching is different. Women who wish to become referees will go through the same tests and judged in the same way as men. We've already seen some moving up the leagues and making a living out of it and I expect that to increase - not because it's being pushed or a woke agenda, but because it's been earned and the league can access a larger pool of people (and referee recruitment has become increasingly difficult as Toshfan has mentioned in another thread). I expect the trend of women referees to increase because the current ones will inspire others, and it will become more normal practice with some of the stigma gradually removed. That's why I believe it will happen. Similarly when it comes to coaching, that's a little behind - we haven't had the trailblazers in the men's game yet, but I expect it will happen because at some point clubs will explore it and take the punt, and eventually it will pay off. A Welsh woman was very briefly appointed caretaker manager of Forest Green Rovers before last season began if I remember correctly, but then someone else was brought in before a game had been played. So the seeds are being planted, and with time I suspect we'll see some trailblazers and then it'll become more and more common. Again, not because it's being pushed, but because some female coaches will be deemed good enough. |
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Post by melynwy on Jun 25, 2024 11:07:21 GMT
You're now disregarding every argument presented, and creating new irrelevant ones. Your F1 car analogy makes no sense, because no-one is suggesting any team should hire an incompetent manager. That would be stupid, in the same way that expecting me to drive an F1 car professionally would be stupid. Also, no-one has said that it " has" to happen. I said that I feel it will happen. Eventually. In essence it's a biological argument, not a culture/tradition argument. Culture and traditions change, and always will change, and old cultures and traditions become irrelevant. Usually the people bemoaning this are the people that had it easy the old way. I don't particularly care how things have been for the last 100 years. Some of it was good, some of it was bad. It is what it is. Nostalgia plays a big part in this. Perhaps all of us are affected to some degree - the "things were better then" argument is very common as we get older. Truth is, whatever the situation, we were younger then. Broadly and generally speaking, we're better when we're younger. Things feel easier, we have less worries, everything seems in its rightful place. So to anyone feeling the need to say "things were better then". Maybe you were better then. For me at least, the cultural/traditional barriers that prevented women from becoming managers, pundits, players etc are slowly coming down. If the women fail, once we are beyond the inevitable cultural backlash, there can feasibly only be biological reasons for that failure. Personally, I don't believe those reasons exist - or at least I haven't seen a convincing argument for it. But if you can present a biological argument to support your beliefs, then at least there would be something tangible to discuss. As it is, you're ignoring any rational debate and creating new arguments and analogies that bear no relevance to the discussion. As I mentioned previously. Part of your argument against women managers is the backlash they will face... by people like you. You want to protect them from the very thing that you're doing. That's a dark, controlling tendency. Even if some barriers to women remain, most of the western world have now at least moved on from the belief that women need to be protected by men from unpleasant experiences. I'll refrain from replying to you any more unless a relevant/interesting point is made, for my own (and other posters') sake more than yours. We're just going round in circles. |
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Post by rushy on Jun 25, 2024 12:26:39 GMT
'change happens all the time and it's perfectly normal. Not all change is for the better though and that's the misconception a lot of people have' Finally something we can agree on ha! It's just that I think this particular change (i.e. more opportunities given to women to work in football and promoting the women's game) is a very good change and entirely logical, which is why it will happen more and more imo despite some of the inevitable resistance. Yeah why does it have to happen though? And what would a female manager have to offer the men's game? Those are the questions. The opportunities for women to work in football will come in the women's game, which everyone's working hard to develop right now. Pushing them into managerial roles in the men's game would seem like more of a political gesture than any logical footballing decision. Can I offer some support for the manner in which you have articulated your points of view regarding this hijacked subject, you have expressed a perfectly logical morally correct argument and shown great patience. |
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Post by melynwy on Jun 25, 2024 13:01:14 GMT
Yeah why does it have to happen though? And what would a female manager have to offer the men's game? Those are the questions. The opportunities for women to work in football will come in the women's game, which everyone's working hard to develop right now. Pushing them into managerial roles in the men's game would seem like more of a political gesture than any logical footballing decision. Can I offer some support for the manner in which you have articulated your points of view regarding this hijacked subject, you have expressed a perfectly logical morally correct argument and shown great patience. The part you have quoted was a response to something no-one had said. That’s not logical at all. It’s pulling an argument from thin air for the sake if it. It’s easy to appear logical and patient when you’re answering an imaginary response. I don’t think anyone disagrees with him that it doesn’t have to happen, so of course his answer seems logical in that context. But no-one had claimed that! And asking what would a woman have to offer is also loaded and deliberate. The question for a club or nation is what would any potential manager offer. My question is what biological reasons preclude a woman from being able to offer something useful. |
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Post by redwall65 on Jun 25, 2024 13:53:45 GMT
We can’t underestimate the importance of this appointment for the future of Welsh football. Its a moment in time, both on and off the field. Mooney will want a marquee signing and Osh isn’t that for him. He’s still using the FAW to build his CV and the appointment of a manager is the biggest ‘highlight’ of any CEO’s CV. But Mooney will be gone soon, so they have to do what is right for Welsh Football not Mooneys CV… Financially they can’t afford a marquee signing so the debate internally will be furious as if they get a marquee signing will it mean dipping into the reserves? Mooneys honeymoon period is fading amongst the council…. Lots of talk and no delivery… he’s still dining out on the legacy of work that was done before he even joined.. but financially they are in the worst place they have ever been. So don’t underestimate how important this appointment is, financially, politically and for the long term stability of Welsh football. The most important appointment (on and off the field) the FAW have had to make in 30 years. Don’t forget the blazers still hold the power to hire and fire.. |
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Post by andybell84 on Jun 25, 2024 13:54:06 GMT
Mate just driving back from a works meeting in Birmingham and who is at Monmouth services southbound on the A40 but Sam Allardyce. Not saying there’s necessarily a connection but could conceivably be heading to FAW towers.
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Post by njdragon on Jun 25, 2024 14:17:15 GMT
Mate just driving back from a works meeting in Birmingham and who is at Monmouth services southbound on the A40 but Sam Allardyce. Not saying there’s necessarily a connection but could conceivably be heading to FAW towers. im not sure if this is one of these wind ups, ronaldo seen a rossi's chippy outside of the liberty but I would be happy with allardyce. I think he's a good name, experience manager, international and club will have a good pull and a toshack figure but more relevant. I could see him being more of a players manager than tosh ever was. Someone who would steady the ship thats for certain. |
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Post by andybell84 on Jun 25, 2024 14:34:15 GMT
Not for one minute saying it’s linked to the FAW vacancy in any shape or form but it could be. Could be on his way to a gig in Cardiff or anything. quote author=" njdragon" source="/post/281116/thread" timestamp="1719325035"] Mate just driving back from a works meeting in Birmingham and who is at Monmouth services southbound on the A40 but Sam Allardyce. Not saying there’s necessarily a connection but could conceivably be heading to FAW towers. im not sure if this is one of these wind ups, ronaldo seen a rossi's chippy outside of the liberty but I would be happy with allardyce. I think he's a good name, experience manager, international and club will have a good pull and a toshack figure but more relevant. I could see him being more of a players manager than tosh ever was. Someone who would steady the ship thats for certain. [/quote] |
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Post by iantov on Jun 25, 2024 16:41:31 GMT
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Post by rushy on Jun 25, 2024 16:48:04 GMT
The most common sense approach to this crucial decision of choosing the next manager would be in my opinion , someone with real experience and ability to find the system that gets the best out of the players, the issue being whether the players want a Welshman or are open minded.
There have been a number of outlandish suggestions, but personally I'd have no problem with Allardyce coming in as he fits into what is probably required, I definitely don't want an Henry type who will use his 'new ideas' as an experiment to see if they work but at our expense.
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Post by surge on Jun 25, 2024 17:56:47 GMT
The most common sense approach to this crucial decision of choosing the next manager would be in my opinion , someone with real experience and ability to find the system that gets the best out of the players, the issue being whether the players want a Welshman or are open minded. There have been a number of outlandish suggestions, but personally I'd have no problem with Allardyce coming in as he fits into what is probably required, I definitely don't want an Henry type who will use his 'new ideas' as an experiment to see if they work but at our expense. I don't get this. He was absolutely fantastic at Bolton but he's probably been living off that reputation for almost two decades. What did he do at Leeds or West Brom that makes you think he has any ideas left? Man has a big ego, has got to 69 years old without any connection to Wales and is probably speaking about the job just so he gets more views on his podcast. Just because you don't want Henry because he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's more than a good pundit, well why would you want someone else on other end of their career who also is only a good pundit now? |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 25, 2024 17:58:38 GMT
He has very limited experience at international level, that England stint went will didn’t it?
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 25, 2024 18:05:48 GMT
The most common sense approach to this crucial decision of choosing the next manager would be in my opinion , someone with real experience and ability to find the system that gets the best out of the players, the issue being whether the players want a Welshman or are open minded. There have been a number of outlandish suggestions, but personally I'd have no problem with Allardyce coming in as he fits into what is probably required, I definitely don't want an Henry type who will use his 'new ideas' as an experiment to see if they work but at our expense. I don't get this. He was absolutely fantastic at Bolton but he's probably been living off that reputation for almost two decades. What did he do at Leeds or West Brom that makes you think he has any ideas left? Man has a big ego, has got to 69 years old without any connection to Wales and is probably speaking about the job just so he gets more views on his podcast. Just because you don't want Henry because he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's more than a good pundit, well why would you want someone else on other end of their career who also is only a good pundit now? Well said. Allardyce is yesterday's man. Even at his peak his long ball game would have been a poor fit to our capabilities. That's before you factor in his egotistical persona and the dubious ethics that led to his dismissal from the England job. I'd be disappointed if he even made it to interview. Henry has at least done enough in recent times to merit an interview. Earnshaw, who was on the same coaching course, speaks highly of him. As long as the interview panel don't put any weight on his playing career (easily said than done) then he deserves consideration. Crofts is the interesting one. That would be a bold appointment, and one that I would applaud. |
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Post by njdragon on Jun 25, 2024 18:12:52 GMT
I don't get this. He was absolutely fantastic at Bolton but he's probably been living off that reputation for almost two decades. What did he do at Leeds or West Brom that makes you think he has any ideas left? Man has a big ego, has got to 69 years old without any connection to Wales and is probably speaking about the job just so he gets more views on his podcast. Just because you don't want Henry because he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's more than a good pundit, well why would you want someone else on other end of their career who also is only a good pundit now? Well said. Allardyce is yesterday's man. Even at his peak his long ball game would have been a poor fit to our capabilities. That's before you factor in his egotistical persona and the dubious ethics that led to his dismissal from the England job. I'd be disappointed if he even made it to interview. Henry has at least done enough in recent times to merit an interview. Earnshaw, who was on the same coaching course, speaks highly of him. As long as the interview panel don't put any weight on his playing career (easily said than done) then he deserves consideration. Crofts is the interesting one. That would be a bold appointment, and one that I would applaud. Page was knocked for lack of managerial experience and tactical nous now you want to bring in a managerial novice over someone with a proper pedigree. What is it you want? |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 25, 2024 18:34:16 GMT
Do you seriously rate Allardyce? Apart from anything else the brand of football he would bring would be soul destroying. If you really want Cymru to go down the long ball route then Sam's your man. I'm really astonished that anybody would want him in charge.
Appointing anybody with assistant experience will be a risk, but the right sort of risk. I'd much prefer an up and coming manager than a has been. The last time we went down the experienced old manager route was Toshack, and that was hardly a success.
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Post by rushy on Jun 25, 2024 18:44:46 GMT
To be fair Allardyce did great work at many clubs, but OK I get the negativity towards him , however where is the experience in the other contenders for the job , plenty of coaches standing behind someone making the real decisions, and plenty of passion etc from the playing squad but I think it needs leadership to guide everyone through and that's what Allardyce would bring, we'll have to wait and see which way the FAW swing.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 25, 2024 18:45:29 GMT
It is interesting that we have at least 4 potential candidates with assistant manager experience in the Premier League: Bellamy, Roberts, Croft and Cameron Toshack.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 25, 2024 18:53:55 GMT
To illustrate the point about Allardyce being yesterday's man, after his departure from England he only just kept Palace up, left after half a season at Everton and took both West Brom and Leeds down. We might as well give Toshack senior a third stint.
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