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Post by ozziejay8 on Oct 28, 2014 15:55:46 GMT
Never seen him do anything for Wales. Never put in a good shift and movement off the ball was non existent.
I know we're lacking in strikers but, I'd rather see someone who's hungry for it!!
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Post by cadno on Oct 28, 2014 15:58:21 GMT
He did OK for us, nice assist for Gareth Bale vs Switzerland.
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Post by ozziejay8 on Oct 28, 2014 16:01:21 GMT
Mind you;
I think he's a better player than Church.
Church puts in a shift..., for his ability
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Post by liamburke on Oct 28, 2014 16:49:09 GMT
Morrison will not start for Leeds again anytime soon I reckon. He was brought in under the new (and recently departed) head coach, Darko Millanic. The new manager Readfearn knows the team a lot better, than Millanic who actually beat Brian Cloughs' record of 44 days! So I can't see Morrison being anywhere near the team
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Post by alarch on Oct 28, 2014 17:05:15 GMT
I would like to think that all managers are fair minded (they'd be stupid not to) and assess players on merit. According to that forum link I posted several had Morison down as MOTM based on first-half performance. He faded second half (hardly surprising given this was his first start - and Milanic decided to put him on the right) - but showed what he can do.
One of my bug bears on this (and other forums) - is how ready people are to write people off. It would be nice if shows of humility after people have been proven wrong matched their eagerness to rubbish players. But that's not how it works is it...
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Post by cadno on Oct 28, 2014 17:50:17 GMT
Morison shouldn't be written off, I don't think he was as dreadful as others on this forum suggest. Sure he wasn't a prolific goalscorer but he was good vs England away and Switzerland at home at least (from what I can remember).
Simon Church isn't a prolific goalscorer but the rest of his work is usually pretty good, we're quick to criticise him, mainly due to lack of goals, but I'd like to look at what else he brings to the team...
Honesty, Vokes and maybe HRK are the only players I think are more likely to score goals than Simon Church when starting up front.
Our most prolific goalscorer is Gareth Bale, not a striker. So whilst we don't have a prolific goalscoring striker we need to look at other ways of creating opportunities and scoring goals. . .
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Post by ozziejay8 on Oct 28, 2014 18:42:27 GMT
I'd love to see HRK start upfront, I think it would suit him... but I can't imagine Coleman playing him up top for some reason.
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Post by phillygaz on Oct 28, 2014 21:28:00 GMT
I don't think anyone, myself included, would champion Morison as the answer to our prayers up front. But this thread doesn't say anything that convinces me we're in a position to turn our noses up at any striker getting first team action for a Championship club. Whether he will stay in the Leeds team remains to be seen.
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 28, 2014 22:07:49 GMT
I don't think anyone, myself included, would champion Morison as the answer to our prayers up front. But this thread doesn't say anything that convinces me we're in a position to turn our noses up at any striker getting first team action for a Championship club. Whether he will stay in the Leeds team remains to be seen. Agree. but by the same measure i dont think we are in a position to turn our noses up at league one or spl forwards who are actually scoring goals at the moment.. |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 28, 2014 22:19:49 GMT
I don't think anyone, myself included, would champion Morison as the answer to our prayers up front. But this thread doesn't say anything that convinces me we're in a position to turn our noses up at any striker getting first team action for a Championship club. Whether he will stay in the Leeds team remains to be seen. Agree. but by the same measure i dont think we are in a position to turn our noses up at league one or spl forwards who are actually scoring goals at the moment.. Can I throw another factor into the equation...... ....... team spirit. I hope that Coleman ensures that any new or old faces coming into the squad will not affect the TEAM SPIRIT. This is going to count a lot of Wales. A lot on this board have stated this and it is apparent to see. |
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Post by phillygaz on Oct 28, 2014 22:31:09 GMT
I don't think anyone, myself included, would champion Morison as the answer to our prayers up front. But this thread doesn't say anything that convinces me we're in a position to turn our noses up at any striker getting first team action for a Championship club. Whether he will stay in the Leeds team remains to be seen. Agree. but by the same measure i dont think we are in a position to turn our noses up at league one or spl forwards who are actually scoring goals at the moment.. Think I'd agree that it's worth chucking Bradshaw in to have a look. I know very little about SPL at the mo but would be surprised if scoring in it is a sign of any great quality. Open minded if those in the know think that guy is really up to it. Doesn't hurt to have a few options, however limited, in a position where we are weak. |
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Post by cadno on Oct 28, 2014 22:46:06 GMT
Agree. but by the same measure i dont think we are in a position to turn our noses up at league one or spl forwards who are actually scoring goals at the moment.. Can I throw another factor into the equation...... ....... team spirit. I hope that Coleman ensures that any new or old faces coming into the squad will not affect the TEAM SPIRIT. This is going to count a lot of Wales. A lot on this board have stated this and it is apparent to see. Maybe this is why Craig Davies hasn't had a call up so far in this campaign. |
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Post by welshiron on Oct 29, 2014 9:26:29 GMT
If Morison starts scoring goals in the championship then he must be considered as he hasn't done that bad in the passed.
Might depend on how he is viewed amongst the other players as we need to keep the team spirit high.
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Post by cadno on Oct 29, 2014 12:31:35 GMT
I re-watched the Bosnia game and Church's lack of football is obvious, he made one clear good contribution and he wasn't sharp enough. Is he ready to step down to League 1 to get game time and build from there? I'd rather a Simon Church that's playing football every week in League 1 than a Church that isn't playing football at all...
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 29, 2014 14:21:00 GMT
Think Church and Vokes will be out injured for the next squad. Lawrence hasn't played 1 Minute of first Team Football this seaosn so I wouldn't pick him either:
Forwards/wingers for Belgium: Bale, HRK, George Williams, Cotterill and ...?
Harry Wilson? Tom Bradshaw? Marley Watkins? Steve Morison? Craig Davies? Jermaine Easter?
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Post by cadno on Oct 29, 2014 14:29:44 GMT
Think Church and Vokes will be out injured for the next squad. Lawrence hasn't played 1 Minute of first Team Football this seaosn so I wouldn't pick him either: Forwards/wingers for Belgium: Bale, HRK, George Williams, Cotterill and ...? Harry Wilson? Tom Bradshaw? Marley Watkins? Steve Morison? Craig Davies? Jermaine Easter? I guess Jonny Williams can fit into the wingers category. I reckon Coleman plays Bale false 9, HRK and Joniesta on the wings. OR 3-5-2, Bale up top, Joniesta or HRK behind him. |
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 29, 2014 14:40:45 GMT
I think he'll go 5-3-2 with Bale/HRK up top.
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Post by cadno on Oct 29, 2014 15:44:06 GMT
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Post by alarch on Oct 29, 2014 15:47:14 GMT
I think Coleman is very likely to go with 5-3-2 - in which case we're likely to have Allen and Ledley in front of the back four and Ramsey in an advanced position. Then you'd probably have Bale playing alongside HRK or Joniesta, with the other on the bench. Not a good use of resources in my opinion.
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Post by yanto on Oct 29, 2014 19:25:02 GMT
I would like to think that all managers are fair minded (they'd be stupid not to) and assess players on merit. According to that forum link I posted several had Morison down as MOTM based on first-half performance. He faded second half (hardly surprising given this was his first start - and Milanic decided to put him on the right) - but showed what he can do. One of my bug bears on this (and other forums) - is how ready people are to write people off. It would be nice if shows of humility after people have been proven wrong matched their eagerness to rubbish players. But that's not how it works is it... Nope....... |
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Post by jonnyh85 on Nov 1, 2014 8:11:05 GMT
Has Earnie officially retired? Still getting goals in an increasingly more competitive MLS. Great movement and finisher if we're going two up top
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 1, 2014 12:56:46 GMT
Has Earnie officially retired? Still getting goals in an increasingly more competitive MLS. Great movement and finisher if we're going two up top I still get nightmares about his miss at Wembley |
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Post by stu on Nov 1, 2014 18:13:48 GMT
I'd rather see a striker who's actually been PLAYING and SCORING get called up (even if at a lower Level)..Tom Bradshaw or Marley Watkins. Agreed, if we want a big target man then HRK is the man for the job as we have plenty of cover for the wings. But I wouldn't be mad if he got a call up anytime soon. |
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Post by liamburke on Nov 1, 2014 20:45:57 GMT
Ok so I went to Leeds/Cardiff today and can report that Morrison WAS indeed shite. It was a source of great laughter to my friends from Leeds when I told them that Stevo was actually being considered as a call up. He was replaced by another Anglo Welshman (or Welshman) Chris Dawson who was a lot more lively and creative.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Nov 1, 2014 20:59:20 GMT
Has Earnie officially retired? Still getting goals in an increasingly more competitive MLS. Great movement and finisher if we're going two up top I still get nightmares about his miss at Wembley .... and the under hit shot in Belgrade which was cleared off the line. This may have also saved a point. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 21:25:42 GMT
I still get nightmares about his miss at Wembley .... and the under hit shot in Belgrade which was cleared off the line. This may have also saved a point. I'm going to have nightmares now, that game is coming flooding back. One of the toughest games I've ever watched as a positive result would have put us well on the way to qualifying. I literally kicked every ball during that 90 minutes. I recall that the guy who scored the goal, Draganovic (something like that) was also the guy who cleared the ball off the line. Earnie's shot wasn't great but I recall the clearance being a "how the fuck did he get that?!" moment, it seemed like it was destined to go in. Even Earnie thought he had scored judging by his reaction. Sad times  |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Nov 1, 2014 21:51:45 GMT
.... and the under hit shot in Belgrade which was cleared off the line. This may have also saved a point. I'm going to have nightmares now, that game is coming flooding back. One of the toughest games I've ever watched as a positive result would have put us well on the way to qualifying. I literally kicked every ball during that 90 minutes. I recall that the guy who scored the goal, Draganovic (something like that) was also the guy who cleared the ball off the line. Earnie's shot wasn't great but I recall the clearance being a "how the fuck did he get that?!" moment, it seemed like it was destined to go in. Even Earnie thought he had scored judging by his reaction. Sad times Didn't mean to give you nightmares!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 22:40:35 GMT
I'm going to have nightmares now, that game is coming flooding back. One of the toughest games I've ever watched as a positive result would have put us well on the way to qualifying. I literally kicked every ball during that 90 minutes. I recall that the guy who scored the goal, Draganovic (something like that) was also the guy who cleared the ball off the line. Earnie's shot wasn't great but I recall the clearance being a "how the fuck did he get that?!" moment, it seemed like it was destined to go in. Even Earnie thought he had scored judging by his reaction. Sad times Didn't mean to give you nightmares! I'll live  just reminded me of an awful 90 minutes all round. Worse than the 6-1! |
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Post by cadno on Jan 20, 2015 21:14:49 GMT
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Post by alarch on Feb 14, 2015 22:22:53 GMT
I tentatively suggested a while back that he might come back into contention - to much derision. Right now he's just about the only Welsh striker getting regular game time (if you discount HRK). Saw this comment on a Leeds forum today:
"Morison ain't scoring but contributes well in games". Hardly a glowing recommendation - but right now we're pretty desperate on the striker front. Could well merit a place in the squad.
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just reminded me of an awful 90 minutes all round. Worse than the 6-1!