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Post by flynnfan on Mar 8, 2014 14:45:02 GMT
Sits on the bench for Hibernian you mean?
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Post by Tim P on Mar 8, 2014 16:07:01 GMT
Sits on the bench for Hibernian you mean? Poor guy. Undoubtedly he was damaged by injuries, but his technique is just garbage. |
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Post by ladotelli on Mar 8, 2014 16:17:59 GMT
The problem is City is probably the worst team for any young player to be at. Wilshere had already almost three seasons of premier league football at 20 years old, so had Carrick. Last year Huws was playing in League Two. There is an exciting player here but he needs regular games, glad he's getting that at Brum but can you really see him ousting Fernandinho and Yaya? Even Garcia and Rodwell are ahead of him at this moment in time.
Pains me to say it as a City fan but he needs to move and a good run on loan will put him in the shop window.
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Post by Tim P on Mar 8, 2014 17:39:41 GMT
The problem is City is probably the worst team for any young player to be at. Wilshere had already almost three seasons of premier league football at 20 years old, so had Carrick. Last year Huws was playing in League Two. There is an exciting player here but he needs regular games, glad he's getting that at Brum but can you really see him ousting Fernandinho and Yaya? Even Garcia and Rodwell are ahead of him at this moment in time. Pains me to say it as a City fan but he needs to move and a good run on loan will put him in the shop window. If he's good enough, he will play. If he's not at that level, he'll move. Vieira thinks he's good enough - and for now at least that is very encouraging. City are working towards an absolutely phenomenal youth structure - he's at one of the best places he could be in the world. |
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Post by ladotelli on Mar 8, 2014 18:03:43 GMT
TP you are right about the youth structure. The new training complex and the plans they have for that place is absolutely phenomenal, the investment made by the owners is incredible. However, Huws may have missed the boat on that one and his age group won't feel the benefits from that.
My main concern is that there is a lot of competition for places and City is a club, like Chelsea, which won't be patient with it's younger talent as they would rather buy a ready made replacement. The best players in the world had already played a few seasons at the top level by the age of 20 years old, Huws was on at a league two team. Next season he will be 21, make or break time. I just can't see him ousting Yaya or Fernandinho.
A Matic type situation perhaps wouldn't be a bad idea? Play for another team for a few seasons and then come back to play at the top level, the best always rises to the top and Huws has been said to have all the ability to play champions league footall.
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Post by Tim P on Mar 8, 2014 18:10:12 GMT
TP you are right about the youth structure. The new training complex and the plans they have for that place is absolutely phenomenal, the investment made by the owners is incredible. However, Huws may have missed the boat on that one and his age group won't feel the benefits from that. My main concern is that there is a lot of competition for places and City is a club, like Chelsea, which won't be patient with it's younger talent as they would rather buy a ready made replacement. The best players in the world had already played a few seasons at the top level by the age of 20 years old, Huws was on at a league two team. Next season he will be 21, make or break time. I just can't see him ousting Yaya or Fernandinho. A Matic type situation perhaps wouldn't be a bad idea? Play for another team for a few seasons and then come back to play at the top level, the best always rises to the top and Huws has been said to have all the ability to play champions league footall. Yeah, I totally agree that he's at the age where he needs to play. Clearly he is nowhere near the level of Toure, but I don't think it's impossible to imagine him playing fairly regularly in the league and certainly in the cups. Time will tell. Given Txiki Begiristain's links to Spain I'd love to see what Huws could do on loan at a mid table La Liga side. |
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Post by ladotelli on Mar 8, 2014 18:15:36 GMT
Imagine if he was 7-8 years older. He would have been coming through at a time when we had very little money and were producing excellent players from our academy. Barton, SWP, Onouha, Ched, Sturridge, Richards, Ireland, Flood etc..
If Huws was around then I absolutely think that the arabs would have built a team around him and he would be playing alongside Yaya every game. Time will tell.
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Post by llannerch on Mar 9, 2014 10:03:56 GMT
Imagine if he was 7-8 years older. He would have been coming through at a time when we had very little money and were producing excellent players from our academy. Barton, SWP, Onouha, Ched, Sturridge, Richards, Ireland, Flood etc.. If Huws was around then I absolutely think that the arabs would have built a team around him and he would be playing alongside Yaya every game. Time will tell. Good point. Though interestingly all of those players arguably didn't have the careers that were expected. Sturridge the one exception |
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Post by steelrod on Mar 10, 2014 13:24:57 GMT
The problem is City is probably the worst team for any young player to be at. Wilshere had already almost three seasons of premier league football at 20 years old, so had Carrick. Last year Huws was playing in League Two. There is an exciting player here but he needs regular games, glad he's getting that at Brum but can you really see him ousting Fernandinho and Yaya? Even Garcia and Rodwell are ahead of him at this moment in time. Pains me to say it as a City fan but he needs to move and a good run on loan will put him in the shop window. He's better than Garcia, Rodwell and Demachelis. Probably behind Fernandhino and Toure at the moment. Got BCFC MOTM last Saturday against QPR who had a full international midfield including England internationals Barton and Jenas. He'll be in contention at City next season no problem. |
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Post by steelrod on Mar 10, 2014 13:26:06 GMT
The problem is City is probably the worst team for any young player to be at. Wilshere had already almost three seasons of premier league football at 20 years old, so had Carrick. Last year Huws was playing in League Two. There is an exciting player here but he needs regular games, glad he's getting that at Brum but can you really see him ousting Fernandinho and Yaya? Even Garcia and Rodwell are ahead of him at this moment in time. Pains me to say it as a City fan but he needs to move and a good run on loan will put him in the shop window. He's better than Garcia, Rodwell and Demachelis. Probably behind Fernandhino and Toure at the moment. Got BCFC MOTM last Saturday against QPR who had a full international midfield including England internationals Barton and Jenas. He'll be in contention at City next season no problem. And that's 5 MOTM awards in 8 games at BCFC |
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Post by llannerch on Mar 10, 2014 20:14:58 GMT
City will be back in the Champions League next season and will need a big squad. Huws will get Carling and FA Cup games. If he does enough then he'll be knocking on the door of a dead rubber UCL pool game and the odd sub appearnce.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Mar 11, 2014 2:25:42 GMT
Imagine if he was 7-8 years older. He would have been coming through at a time when we had very little money and were producing excellent players from our academy. Barton, SWP, Onouha, Ched, Sturridge, Richards, Ireland, Flood etc.. If Huws was around then I absolutely think that the arabs would have built a team around him and he would be playing alongside Yaya every game. Time will tell. They'd be building a team round Huws ahead of Toure and Aguero you mean? A bit of perspective here please......he had a mediocre spell at Northampton, some underwhelming performances for our under-21 side and a few games for a miserably failing Birmingham City side. With such warped assessment of any young player who plays any senior football in the top 2 divisions (Huws, Williams, Davies etc) it is no wonder our expectations as a national team are so frequently shattered by the realities of international football. Every player but Bale and perhaps Ramsey seems to be considered 3 times as good as they actually are just because they are welsh qualified and its NUTS! The boy has potential but he has a hell of a way to go to be compared to Yaya Toure, just let him develop at his own pace and we'll see how good he turns out to be in a couple of years or more. |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 11, 2014 8:46:17 GMT
I agree he looks a decent prospect but has played less than 10 championship games. He looked neat and tidy against Iceland but wasn't as impressive as some people are making out.
I personally feel he will go to a mid to lower premier team on a season long loan next season (would he be welcome at Swansea) and we will know by Christmas whether he is going to be the player we hope.
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Post by squatter1 on Mar 11, 2014 9:21:25 GMT
I just hope to god he gets out of man city to a club where his chances of playing are better.
He 's unlikely to be the £30m finished article aged 20, so if he stays his chances are realistically going to be minimal next season.
We need him playing football now.
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Post by alarch on Mar 11, 2014 10:15:40 GMT
You make some valid points wirralwelsh, but you take things to the other extreme. There are two issues here, correctly discerning real talent, and the time it takes for the talent to flourish fully. In the past people have correctly discerned the talent in the likes of Bale, Ramsey, Ashley Williams and Joe Allen long before it has found its full expression. In Allen's case the best is yet to come. It is also true that the likes of Blake and Crofts have been built up to be better than they are. Discerning the real talents and the impostors is a matter of judgement, and some people have it and some people don't. For the record, I reckon that Joniesta is a star in the making, assuming he gets clear of injury/fitness concerns. As for Huws and Davies, it's less clear-cut, but my best guess is they will carve out careers in the first team squads of regular participants in the Champions League.
What's hard to predict is how long players will take to fulfill their talent. Injuries are a big factor here, and have definitely delayed the progress of Bale, Ramsey, Allen and Joniesta. So, the likes of Huws may well be a big player for club and country in time, but the timescale may well be longer than we'd like. If Huws is to play a part in the next campaign from an early stage, as squatter1 and welshiron say, we need him playing regular football now, preferably at Premier League level from next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 12:14:29 GMT
Everton in for Rodwell after failure to make the grade at Man City.
Huws is one of the reasons why. I agree with Steelrod - he is a superb talent, and he will be an important part of Man City's campaign next season.
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Post by toshfan on Mar 11, 2014 12:55:29 GMT
Everton in for Rodwell after failure to make the grade at Man City. Huws is one of the reasons why. I agree with Steelrod - he is a superb talent, and he will be an important part of Man City's campaign next season. Part of me would prefer that it was Huws who went to Everton as Martinez would be very good for him and his development. It will be interesting to see the extent to which he develops as an attacking midfielder over the coming years but perform a defensive midfield role for Wales? |
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Post by llannerch on Mar 11, 2014 12:57:28 GMT
Part of me would prefer that it was Huws who went to Everton as Martinez would be very good for him and his development. Bang on |
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Post by glynhir on Mar 11, 2014 16:59:54 GMT
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Post by abwales on Mar 12, 2014 21:15:23 GMT
Scored for Birmingham, a volley from outside the box. Cracker.
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Emyr Huws
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Post by ontheroadagain on Mar 12, 2014 21:17:47 GMT
Radio 5 live reporting a stunning goal by Huws to level at 2-2 against Burnley.
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Post by welshwizard79 on Mar 12, 2014 21:57:18 GMT
Just saw goal it's superb fair play.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 22:30:48 GMT
Emyr Huws, who continues to impress on loan at Birmingham: "He [Patrick Vieira] wants me to play like Busquets and he thinks I can do that."
BUSQUETS, would be fantastic to have a similar player in our team. CBs now please...
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Post by steelrod on Mar 13, 2014 4:32:36 GMT
Imagine if he was 7-8 years older. He would have been coming through at a time when we had very little money and were producing excellent players from our academy. Barton, SWP, Onouha, Ched, Sturridge, Richards, Ireland, Flood etc.. If Huws was around then I absolutely think that the arabs would have built a team around him and he would be playing alongside Yaya every game. Time will tell. They'd be building a team round Huws ahead of Toure and Aguero you mean? A bit of perspective here please......he had a mediocre spell at Northampton, some underwhelming performances for our under-21 side and a few games for a miserably failing Birmingham City side. With such warped assessment of any young player who plays any senior football in the top 2 divisions (Huws, Williams, Davies etc) it is no wonder our expectations as a national team are so frequently shattered by the realities of international football. Every player but Bale and perhaps Ramsey seems to be considered 3 times as good as they actually are just because they are welsh qualified and its NUTS! The boy has potential but he has a hell of a way to go to be compared to Yaya Toure, just let him develop at his own pace and we'll see how good he turns out to be in a couple of years or more. "he had a mediocre spell at Northampton?" Five man of the match awards in 12 games? Not bad for a young lad making his debut appearances in a tough league I'd have thought? How do you make that out to be mediocre? Man of the match again last night for Birmingham against Burnley (five MOTM in eight games now), and a superb goal. Attachments:
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Post by welshiron on Mar 13, 2014 8:40:31 GMT
A great bit of technique and composure for the goal, I don't doubt this lad is going to be a decent player, it's just vital that he makes the right decisions and doesn't spend the next 2 seasons playing the odd game or two in the cups.
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Post by toshfan on Mar 13, 2014 10:40:09 GMT
If anyone knows of a link to the goal, please post it here.
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Emyr Huws
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Mar 13, 2014 12:29:31 GMT
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Post by llannerch on Mar 13, 2014 12:32:31 GMT
I believe the word is 'textbook'
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Post by texan on Mar 13, 2014 13:30:35 GMT
I'll really struggle not write his name as "Emma Who's" now after seeing that...bet the announcer was gutted when it went in lol!
This kid's destined for more than the City bench next season.
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Post by flynnfan on Mar 13, 2014 13:36:27 GMT
Great goal, crap celebration. I wonder, with a good pre-season, might he be pushing for a regular place in the City match day squad next season? I think they'll splash out on defenders rather than midfielders in the summer.
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