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Post by welwyn on Nov 29, 2020 13:25:22 GMT
Hopefully his cameo as the only decent performance against Cardiff yesterday might see him and NJ get over whatever issue they seem to have. In fact, Jones made a point of saying Morrell was outstanding when he came on. I think to Jones that will mean Joe has ‘passed the test’. Taken off at half time at Rotherham, benched since, has taken his medicine and come back fighting. I expect to see Morrell in and around the starting line-up from now on. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 8, 2020 19:53:03 GMT
Finally gets a start tonight
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Post by welwyn on Dec 9, 2020 8:25:30 GMT
Was pretty good in the 2nd half (didn't see the first). He's been a little unlucky that we got Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall in on loan from Leicester and he has frankly looked like he should be playing for Leicester now. Even I will admit that KDH is better than Morrell.
If we commit to the 3-5-2 though, with Glenn Rea at CB, then I think Morrell has to play as the defensive minded one in the middle. In that case, there is a route to both Joe and KDH getting in the same team.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 12, 2021 19:57:49 GMT
What's going on with him at the moment? welwyn |
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Post by welwyn on Jan 12, 2021 21:05:22 GMT
Something has definitely happened between him & NJ. Probably at HT in the Boro game. It's actually making me angry. To be fair, KDH SHOULD be ahead of Morrell because he is frankly WAY above Championship level. The fact he is out of favour completely is wrong and is beginning to hurt us.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Jan 12, 2021 21:17:48 GMT
Picked up a hamstring injury before Xmas, not risked this evening after playing at the weekend, been told he is “feeling it a bit “
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Post by welwyn on Jan 13, 2021 10:03:15 GMT
I mean, I hope so, but I am not the only Luton fan wondering about the truth of this.
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Post by gimli on Jan 24, 2021 12:24:11 GMT
Not even in the squad today. What's going on with him? Does he need to leave Luton? Nathan Jones clearly doesn't rate him.
With the Euros coming up he surely won't be very happy with his limited game time this season. If I was him I'd be pushing for a move before the transfer window closes.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 24, 2021 12:27:21 GMT
Not even in the squad today. What's going on with him? Does he need to leave Luton? Nathan Jones clearly doesn't rate him. With the Euros coming up he surely won't be very happy with his limited game time this season. If I was him I'd be pushing for a move before the transfer window closes. Without injuries there's next to no chance he starts with Allen back in the frame. |
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Post by gimli on Jan 24, 2021 12:31:12 GMT
Not even in the squad today. What's going on with him? Does he need to leave Luton? Nathan Jones clearly doesn't rate him. With the Euros coming up he surely won't be very happy with his limited game time this season. If I was him I'd be pushing for a move before the transfer window closes. Without injuries there's next to no chance he starts with Allen back in the frame. Yeah but I'm sure he'd still like to be in the squad, and he's unlikely to keep his place if he's doesn't play between now and the summer. |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Jan 24, 2021 12:34:20 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 24, 2021 15:28:47 GMT
Without injuries there's next to no chance he starts with Allen back in the frame. Yeah but I'm sure he'd still like to be in the squad, and he's unlikely to keep his place if he's doesn't play between now and the summer. I think he's safe. We don't have a lot of depth in centre midfield. |
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Post by gimli on Jan 24, 2021 17:28:28 GMT
Yeah but I'm sure he'd still like to be in the squad, and he's unlikely to keep his place if he's doesn't play between now and the summer. I think he's safe. We don't have a lot of depth in centre midfield. You're probably right, but he shouldn't rest on his laurels. I assume we'll be taking 4 deep midfielders, with Allen, Smith, Morrell, Vaulks, Levitt and maybe Sheehan fighting over them (I'm excluding Ampadu since he's mostly playing as a CB these days). Allen's a definite, and Smith is pretty much certain since he's getting regular minutes. So 2 spots left with 4 fighting over them. If we're going to pick players based on form, as things currently stand those two spots should go to Sheehan and Vaulks as they're the ones actually playing regularly for their clubs. And if we're not, we know how much Giggs loves Levitt, who he could decide to take over Morrell if neither are playing. There's also the chance of someone coming from left field and having a consistent run of games from now and the summer, like Robbie Burton. Now I personally would take Morrell over Vaulks regardless of if he's playing regularly for his club or not, but I'm not sure what Giggs/Page think. Morrell's cutting it close either way, and if he wants to be sure of a place he needs to be playing regularly from now to the end of the season. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 24, 2021 21:06:21 GMT
This Finley Stevens could also come into the picture if he ends up getting games for Brentford playing CM. Will be an interesting few months until the end of the season. Hope Morrell gets more game time tho
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Post by welshrover on Jan 25, 2021 0:16:20 GMT
I think he's safe. We don't have a lot of depth in centre midfield. You're probably right, but he shouldn't rest on his laurels. I assume we'll be taking 4 deep midfielders, with Allen, Smith, Morrell, Vaulks, Levitt and maybe Sheehan fighting over them (I'm excluding Ampadu since he's mostly playing as a CB these days). Allen's a definite, and Smith is pretty much certain since he's getting regular minutes. So 2 spots left with 4 fighting over them. If we're going to pick players based on form, as things currently stand those two spots should go to Sheehan and Vaulks as they're the ones actually playing regularly for their clubs. And if we're not, we know how much Giggs loves Levitt, who he could decide to take over Morrell if neither are playing. There's also the chance of someone coming from left field and having a consistent run of games from now and the summer, like Robbie Burton. Now I personally would take Morrell over Vaulks regardless of if he's playing regularly for his club or not, but I'm not sure what Giggs/Page think. Morrell's cutting it close either way, and if he wants to be sure of a place he needs to be playing regularly from now to the end of the season. Am I the only person on here never to have seen this Robbie Burton chap play? Non Sky Subscriber! |
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Post by underwood on Jan 25, 2021 9:14:00 GMT
I think he's safe. We don't have a lot of depth in centre midfield. You're probably right, but he shouldn't rest on his laurels. I assume we'll be taking 4 deep midfielders, with Allen, Smith, Morrell, Vaulks, Levitt and maybe Sheehan fighting over them (I'm excluding Ampadu since he's mostly playing as a CB these days). Allen's a definite, and Smith is pretty much certain since he's getting regular minutes. So 2 spots left with 4 fighting over them. If we're going to pick players based on form, as things currently stand those two spots should go to Sheehan and Vaulks as they're the ones actually playing regularly for their clubs. And if we're not, we know how much Giggs loves Levitt, who he could decide to take over Morrell if neither are playing. There's also the chance of someone coming from left field and having a consistent run of games from now and the summer, like Robbie Burton. Now I personally would take Morrell over Vaulks regardless of if he's playing regularly for his club or not, but I'm not sure what Giggs/Page think. Morrell's cutting it close either way, and if he wants to be sure of a place he needs to be playing regularly from now to the end of the season. Morrell is a far better player than Vaulks, much more involved in the game in the Joe Allen mould. |
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Post by gimli on Jan 25, 2021 11:09:28 GMT
You're probably right, but he shouldn't rest on his laurels. I assume we'll be taking 4 deep midfielders, with Allen, Smith, Morrell, Vaulks, Levitt and maybe Sheehan fighting over them (I'm excluding Ampadu since he's mostly playing as a CB these days). Allen's a definite, and Smith is pretty much certain since he's getting regular minutes. So 2 spots left with 4 fighting over them. If we're going to pick players based on form, as things currently stand those two spots should go to Sheehan and Vaulks as they're the ones actually playing regularly for their clubs. And if we're not, we know how much Giggs loves Levitt, who he could decide to take over Morrell if neither are playing. There's also the chance of someone coming from left field and having a consistent run of games from now and the summer, like Robbie Burton. Now I personally would take Morrell over Vaulks regardless of if he's playing regularly for his club or not, but I'm not sure what Giggs/Page think. Morrell's cutting it close either way, and if he wants to be sure of a place he needs to be playing regularly from now to the end of the season. Morrell is a far better player than Vaulks, much more involved in the game in the Joe Allen mould. I agree, as I said above I personally would pick Morrell over Vaulks either way, but my point is that Morrell can't assume he's guaranteed a place in the squad. If he doesn't play much from now to the summer (which isn't unlikely considering his lack of consistent playing time since moving to Luton), then he's jeopardising his place at the Euros. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Giggs decides to call up players that have been playing regularly for their clubs over ones that haven't been, in which case Morrell drops a few places down the pecking order. He's not in that top tier where he's guaranteed of his place regardless of form or playing time, he needs to earn his place. So if he doesn't think he'll get regular playing time at Luton for the rest of the season he should ask for a transfer, whether that be a loan or a permanent one. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 20, 2021 14:34:19 GMT
Back on the bench after his injury. Hopefully gets plenty of game time between now and the qualifiers in March.
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Post by welwyn on Feb 20, 2021 20:44:33 GMT
Came on and looked our only decent player in an absolute mare of a performance.
Watch him not play again this season.
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 23, 2021 19:13:58 GMT
Starts tonight
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Post by welwyn on Mar 3, 2021 14:54:38 GMT
Nathan Jones' total misreading of the type of player Morrell is a serious worry. He believes him to be the deepest holder, on his own, he neither has the defensive nous or physicality to do that on his own. That was shown up in the first half against Sheff Wed and he will probably never be seen again.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 3, 2021 15:51:27 GMT
Nathan Jones' total misreading of the type of player Morrell is a serious worry. He believes him to be the deepest holder, on his own, he neither has the defensive nous or physicality to do that on his own. That was shown up in the first half against Sheff Wed and he will probably never be seen again. Definitely needs to be in a midfield 2 or a 3. He's a great player, gutted for him he hasn't found his feet at club level yet. I'm convinced if he gets time and in the right team he could end up playing Premier League football |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 25, 2021 9:50:24 GMT
Considering his disappointing lack of game time at Luton, I thought he did ok having to unexpectedly step in for Allen again. Will probably be starting against Czechia I'd have though.
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Post by alarch on Mar 25, 2021 9:55:06 GMT
Considering his disappointing lack of game time at Luton, I thought he did ok having to unexpectedly step in for Allen again. Will probably be starting against Czechia I'd have though. I guess it depends how Smith fares in the "B" team that we will no doubt (or should) put out against Mexico. Morrell did well defensively but will need to be a bit better going forwards. |
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Post by hooky on Mar 25, 2021 11:35:20 GMT
Lets get real.
He is very average
He is not much of an attacking player
He is not big / very physical
So far he can not even cut it at Luton
No disrespect but we will be nowhere near matching good teams in the Euros if we have too many Joe Morrell's in our team
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Post by squatter1 on Mar 25, 2021 12:09:49 GMT
Lets get real. He is very average He is not much of an attacking player He is not big / very physical So far he can not even cut it at Luton No disrespect but we will be nowhere near matching good teams in the Euros if we have too many Joe Morrell's in our team This is the truth Central midfield is a crisis position for Wales - once you lose Amps/Allen, we don't have anything that can be realistically expected to cut it in international football. |
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Post by dai on Mar 25, 2021 12:30:13 GMT
Personally think he's bettered Ampadu quite a few times in midfield, but there we go....
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 25, 2021 12:31:42 GMT
Lets get real. He is very average He is not much of an attacking player He is not big / very physical So far he can not even cut it at Luton No disrespect but we will be nowhere near matching good teams in the Euros if we have too many Joe Morrell's in our team Young player with only 13 caps, the majority of which he has played well in. But yeah, let's just write him off as average because he didn't single handedly dominate De Bruyne & Tielemans. *Rolls eyes* Your criticisms of him being "not very much of an attacking player" and "not very big/physical of a player" also apply to Joe Allen, Marco Verratti, Ngolo Kante, Fernandinho, Xavi - it's just not a fair critique of Morrell as a player |
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Post by dai on Mar 25, 2021 12:38:29 GMT
I will also boldly add that I thought he did better than Ampadu last night as well, who I thought was pretty anonymous at times.
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Post by alarch on Mar 25, 2021 12:51:16 GMT
Completely unreasonable criticism. He's not at Joe's level (yet), but he's a lot better player than his current status suggests. He's very competitive off the ball and decent on it. Yes, quality wise he has a way to go, but I think the raw ingredients are there, in contrast to how they are evidently not with the likes of Vaulks.
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