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Post by alternativewales on Jan 7, 2015 23:42:14 GMT
Just watched his goal and the movement was very good losing his marker and making space well to slot home. Pleased for him and credit should go to Dyche and Burnley for the way they are taking care of him. |
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 8, 2015 17:06:07 GMT
Just watched his goal and the movement was very good losing his marker and making space well to slot home. Pleased for him and credit should go to Dyche and Burnley for the way they are taking care of him. Very true this. Burnley are being totally sensible about his comeback. I get the feeling that Dyche believes Vokes will be very important from now till April if Burnley are to stay up. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 8, 2015 17:27:38 GMT
It helps that Burnley aren't crying out for a striker too, with the form that Danny Ings is in.
If they were struggling up front, I think they would have rushed Vokes back in, so it sounds like we've been quite fortunate there
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Post by alternativewales on Jan 10, 2015 19:57:23 GMT
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jan 11, 2015 19:17:17 GMT
alternativewales, many thanks for posing the link. Great article and antidote to the Ched Evans articles. |
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Post by llannerch on Jan 11, 2015 20:15:09 GMT
A bit more about Wales would have been nice but a decent article all the same |
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Post by alternativewales on Jan 11, 2015 20:35:36 GMT
No problem OTRA!
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Post by ysbryd on Jan 14, 2015 20:16:16 GMT
Notice Vokes has started against Spurs 14/01 in the FA Cup replay. Is that his first start since returning?
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jan 14, 2015 21:18:07 GMT
Notice Vokes has started against Spurs 14/01 in the FA Cup replay. Is that his first start since returning? I believe so, be interesting to see how long he stays on. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 14, 2015 22:24:32 GMT
Notice Vokes has started against Spurs 14/01 in the FA Cup replay. Is that his first start since returning? I believe so, be interesting to see how long he stays on. 90 minutes  |
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Post by llannerch on Jan 14, 2015 22:49:33 GMT
He'll be blowing out of his arse. Great news though
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Post by alternativewales on Jan 14, 2015 23:40:04 GMT
Well done Big Sam!
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Post by welshiron on Jan 15, 2015 9:48:27 GMT
Best news possible, hopefully he will recover well and play a part on the weekend, probably off the bench.
Will hopefully be a regular starter from Feb onwards which will mean he is match fit and ready for Israel
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Post by ysbryd on Jan 15, 2015 15:34:35 GMT
Lets hope for no reaction (muscular.) But that's got to be a big hurdle out of the way and huge test of his recovery. Fingers and toes crossed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 16:32:32 GMT
Everyone is quite excited about him coming back. What if he scores no league goals between now and Israel, is everyone going to still view him as a guaranteed starter just because he can run around a bit up front and Bale won't have to play there?
Me personally I can't see him being prolific in the Premier League, I expect he will start come what may in Israel and I don't have a problem with that but I am not enthusiastic about it at all unlike the prevailing mood. It seems to be pretty desperate up front for us at the moment, nobody is really staking a claim to be our striker.
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Post by dayoo87 on Jan 15, 2015 16:58:40 GMT
Everyone is quite excited about him coming back. What if he scores no league goals between now and Israel, is everyone going to still view him as a guaranteed starter just because he can run around a bit up front and Bale won't have to play there? Me personally I can't see him being prolific in the Premier League, I expect he will start come what may in Israel and I don't have a problem with that but I am not enthusiastic about it at all unlike the prevailing mood. It seems to be pretty desperate up front for us at the moment, nobody is really staking a claim to be our striker.Vokes hasn't had chance to stake his claim yet to be fair. The last time he was playing regularly for his club he was in a good run of form, and obviously we all hope he can pick up where he left off. I also doubt he'll ever be a 20 goal a season EPL striker, but when our other options are mediocre at best or largely unproven (or keep playing Bale there...and you've made enough of a fuss over how Madrid use him to indicate this isn't your preferred option), Vokes' going to start in Israel more or less regardless of club form in my opinion. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 15, 2015 17:27:12 GMT
I reckon Vokes is capable of 12-15 goals in a full premier league season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 18:09:36 GMT
Everyone is quite excited about him coming back. What if he scores no league goals between now and Israel, is everyone going to still view him as a guaranteed starter just because he can run around a bit up front and Bale won't have to play there? Me personally I can't see him being prolific in the Premier League, I expect he will start come what may in Israel and I don't have a problem with that but I am not enthusiastic about it at all unlike the prevailing mood. It seems to be pretty desperate up front for us at the moment, nobody is really staking a claim to be our striker.Vokes hasn't had chance to stake his claim yet to be fair. The last time he was playing regularly for his club he was in a good run of form, and obviously we all hope he can pick up where he left off. I also doubt he'll ever be a 20 goal a season EPL striker, but when our other options are mediocre at best or largely unproven (or keep playing Bale there...and you've made enough of a fuss over how Madrid use him to indicate this isn't your preferred option), Vokes' going to start in Israel more or less regardless of club form in my opinion. There is plenty of evidence on that video I linked to that Bale can play as a striker, I just don't think he suits playing as a striker in a team with Ronaldo in it for obvious reasons. He is wasted playing as a striker for us also because as the last few games prove we can't get the ball to him enough for him to be effective. I agree that Vokes will start in Israel as long as he is fit. I just find that a bit depressing. |
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Post by richierich333 on Jan 16, 2015 10:00:42 GMT
Vokes hasn't had chance to stake his claim yet to be fair. The last time he was playing regularly for his club he was in a good run of form, and obviously we all hope he can pick up where he left off. I also doubt he'll ever be a 20 goal a season EPL striker, but when our other options are mediocre at best or largely unproven (or keep playing Bale there...and you've made enough of a fuss over how Madrid use him to indicate this isn't your preferred option), Vokes' going to start in Israel more or less regardless of club form in my opinion. There is plenty of evidence on that video I linked to that Bale can play as a striker, I just don't think he suits playing as a striker in a team with Ronaldo in it for obvious reasons. He is wasted playing as a striker for us also because as the last few games prove we can't get the ball to him enough for him to be effective. I agree that Vokes will start in Israel as long as he is fit. I just find that a bit depressing. I am actually thankful that we have a premier league striker. Without him we have NOTHING up front. Definite starter for me and that doesn't make me depressed at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 12:52:33 GMT
There is plenty of evidence on that video I linked to that Bale can play as a striker, I just don't think he suits playing as a striker in a team with Ronaldo in it for obvious reasons. He is wasted playing as a striker for us also because as the last few games prove we can't get the ball to him enough for him to be effective. I agree that Vokes will start in Israel as long as he is fit. I just find that a bit depressing. I am actually thankful that we have a premier league striker. Without him we have NOTHING up front. Definite starter for me and that doesn't make me depressed at all. At this point in time he is only a premier league striker by virtue of him playing for a team that got promoted. Hence why I asked the question, he is at this time untested at premier league level- he might have a 'mare the next couple of months and that still won't affect his starting status for us providing he is fit. THAT I find a bit depressing, but it is what it is. I obviously hope he does well, I just have my doubts that he will get goals. I would love us to have a striker that we could rely on to put the ball in the net if given the service from the likes of Bale. |
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Post by richierich333 on Jan 16, 2015 13:02:00 GMT
He was not only a contributing factor in them getting Burnley to the premier league he was a major factor. There's no luck involved. All the ingredients are there for success: He seems happy at Burnley, the Manager rates him highly and they are currently playing well, Wales currently also are playing well and he's back fit and raring to go. The glass is half full.
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Post by squatter1 on Jan 16, 2015 13:24:34 GMT
If you find the thought of premiership player Vokes starting for us depressing, how did you feel about Championship players Gunter, Cotterill, HRK, George Williams, Edwards, Taylor and Church all playing for us in the last three games? Suicidal?
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If you find the thought of premiership player Vokes starting for us depressing, how did you feel about Championship players Gunter, Cotterill, HRK, George Williams, Edwards, Taylor and Church all playing for us in the last three games? Suicidal? Varying degrees depressing, HRK aint great Church...dont even go there. Edwards has always been good value at international level despite the club level he plays at. In the times I have seen him for Wales I dont feel he has made the sort of contribution that an Edwards has so I do find it a bit sad that we are so cock a hoop that he is going to be available. We are not excited because of whst he offers we are excited because it means church wont be selected- which is a relief no doubt, but I cant muster up much enthusiasm. We may have a premier league player up front, but Marouane Chamakh was a premiership player so ultimately that tag means little. Its what you do on the pitch that counts and I am afraid to say that for me Vokes has never really made me sit up and take notice for Wales. Centre forward, for me, is still as much as a problem as it was when Church played previously in the campaign. |
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Post by Tim P on Jan 16, 2015 16:53:05 GMT
I'm interested to see how Vokes does. It could go either way; he could end up playing for a mid table english championship side, or he could play for a mid table epl club. First things first, he needs to stay fit and get into the Burnley team.
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Post by squatter1 on Jan 16, 2015 17:10:51 GMT
What the return of Vokes brings is:
a) almost certainly an upgrade on Church, which is something to be happy about (of course, no one knows if he's gonna prove himself in the Premiership yet, or hit any form in the coming months, or indeed ever truly recover from his injury, but in any case the fact we have a striker now playing in the prem is an upgrade.
and b) that we don't have to play Bale out of position up front on his own, and can try and get him into that free role that might get the best out of him. Don't get me wrong, Bale worked his socks off, chased defenders down, won throws and free kicks, had the odd chance, and was integral to the results we got. But there's no way we should settle for the kind of possession and chance creation we had especially at home to Bosnia and Cyprus. We've got to hope that we can be better than that, and part of that is getting Bale on the ball in better positions more, which is clearly linked to him not being stranded up front on his own. The results we have so far in the group are good results that become great results when you figure in we were playing without a striker (sorry Church) for all intents and purposes. What this team more than anything is a striker, and hopefully we now have at least a half-decent one available. Whether it's from the right, or the left, or a completely free role a la the glory days at Spurs, then we can hopefully get some more magic out of Bale.
Both of which are hopefully good-news stories.
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Post by alternativewales on Jan 16, 2015 20:21:12 GMT
I'm interested to see how Vokes does. It could go either way; he could end up playing for a mid table english championship side, or he could play for a mid table epl club. First things first, he needs to stay fit and get into the Burnley team. Spot on Trendy! |
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Post by llannerch on Jan 17, 2015 9:04:52 GMT
Vokes's goals to minutes ratio, I suspect, is quite good for us. A lot of his caps have come as a substitute
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Post by alternativewales on Jan 18, 2015 0:55:36 GMT
Had game time again for Burnley today when he replaced Barnes.
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Post by cadno on Feb 8, 2015 11:18:16 GMT
On the bench today vs West Brom, hopefully he'll get a bit of game time.
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Post by llannerch on Jan 25, 2016 21:31:40 GMT
Getting some useful penalty practice before the Euros
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