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Post by fiveattheback on Jul 4, 2021 10:12:51 GMT
It is of course possible to supplement Page's man management style with a more tactical one by bringing coaches in alongside him. Stuivenberg's gone and will need replacing
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Post by njdragon on Jul 4, 2021 11:13:49 GMT
It is of course possible to supplement Page's man management style with a more tactical one by bringing coaches in alongside him. Stuivenberg's gone and will need replacing like Osian Roberts with Coleman i imagine. Stuivenberg doesn't seem to be well thought of at arsenal |
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Post by saturn9 on Jul 16, 2021 11:38:16 GMT
If only Roy Hodgson was thirty years younger. He did wonders for the Swiss national team in the mid 90's.
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Post by msjohns on Jul 16, 2021 13:21:24 GMT
If only Roy Hodgson was thirty years younger. He did wonders for the Swiss national team in the mid 90's. He didn't do so great with England! |
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Post by saturn9 on Jul 16, 2021 15:43:07 GMT
If only Roy Hodgson was thirty years younger. He did wonders for the Swiss national team in the mid 90's. He didn't do so great with England! Possibly to many egos in that saes squad of Euro 16 for him. I have fond memories of him managing the Swiss, Inter, taking Fulham very close in Europe. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 26, 2021 16:39:14 GMT
Confirmed today that Stuivenberg has left his position as assistant coach
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Post by hooky on Jul 26, 2021 18:09:29 GMT
Its not exactly a dream team left behind now is it?
When is Giggs' trial expected be over?
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Post by foxmulder on Jul 26, 2021 18:48:19 GMT
Would be great to have a fresh start with a new backroom team before the qualifiers. Can't see that happening though...
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Post by squatter1 on Jul 27, 2021 8:34:27 GMT
Confirmed today that Stuivenberg has left his position as assistant coach Osian straight back in, surely? |
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Post by iantov on Jul 27, 2021 18:03:34 GMT
Confirmed today that Stuivenberg has left his position as assistant coach Osian straight back in, surely? Would make sense |
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Post by gwernybwch on Jul 28, 2021 6:41:48 GMT
Confirmed today that Stuivenberg has left his position as assistant coach Osian straight back in, surely? Why on earth would he want to? He dedicated a large of his career to work tirelessly for the FAW and when he gets interviewed for the main job they choose a weasel instead of him. Well, the weasel is still the manager and it doesn't seem is going anywhere until his trial is done and dusted or contract expires. Where does that leave Osian; 'Assistant to the temporary Manager'? |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jul 28, 2021 8:40:32 GMT
It’s starting to feel a tad “ muddled” tbh
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Post by texan on Jul 28, 2021 20:38:15 GMT
Page has done well, but I don't want him to continue long-term as the manager. I don't think he's ready for that.
We should have had someone else in by now.
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 16, 2021 12:19:19 GMT
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Post by hooky on Aug 16, 2021 21:12:36 GMT
Am not enthused by this.
Total and utter mess.
Page is not going to bring someone in we need that will arguably have more tactical awareness than him is he?
We are gonna end up with one of the lads, as I doubt Giggs will dictate who is brought in.
How do we end up in these kind of situations?
I like Page as a person but think Denmark, Morrell and Colwill showed his significant managerial / tactical limitations.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 16, 2021 21:58:48 GMT
I like Page as a person but think Denmark, Morrell and Colwill showed his significant managerial / tactical limitations. So being beaten by superior opposition, picking Morrell despite not having any better players in his position to choose from, and selecting a youngster as the 23rd man instead of a journeyman when both would be guaranteed 0 minutes, these are the reasons Page has limitations? In short, there are no reasons you can list as to why Page has limitations |
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Post by redwallnews on Aug 16, 2021 22:31:18 GMT
Deserved in my opinion. Good luck Pagey!!
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Post by texan on Aug 19, 2021 11:55:12 GMT
Am not enthused by this. Total and utter mess. Page is not going to bring someone in we need that will arguably have more tactical awareness than him is he? We are gonna end up with one of the lads, as I doubt Giggs will dictate who is brought in. How do we end up in these kind of situations? I like Page as a person but think Denmark, Morrell and Colwill showed his significant managerial / tactical limitations. I tend to agree. We saw under Coleman how it goes when a coach is a caretaker over another man's team. Different circumstances in 2012 of course but the ethos is the same...'don't change too much'. It only went right when Coleman went his own way circa 2014. I don't think Page has done that thus far, and for good reason to be fair. He's consistently maintained this is Giggs' team and, going forward, I can only assume that this ethos will continue until January. Page has been effectively firefighting for 12 months. I'm not sure how much of him and how much of Giggs has been in these last few performances, but all I'm certain of is that such a scenario can't be good long term as its a halfway house and we're not getting the best of either of them like this. Personally I'd like to have seen the FAW act back in February once we knew the CPS had extended Giggs' bail. For me they should have got shot of him then and started the interview process. They could have gotten a new man in place for the May friendlies, kept Page in charge for continuity's sake until after the Euros but let the new guy tag along to bed-in then change over for next month. That way everyone would be familiar with each other as we restart the WCQ's afresh. The way it is however it feels like we're still treading water, not saying that Page can't get the job done for us, but I'm certainly nervous about this ongoing temporary situation. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 19, 2021 12:02:02 GMT
I can’t say the Alan Knill appointment fills me with much confidence
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Post by dlwilliams on Aug 19, 2021 13:02:23 GMT
I can’t say the Alan Knill appointment fills me with much confidence But if he's been part of a coaching set-up which took Sheffield United from League One to the Premier League, he must have something about him as a coach. I'm not comparing him to Osian Roberts, but before being part of the Wales set-up (with the first team), the only senior side he'd ever coached/managed was Porthmadog. Don't think we should dismiss individuals just because they're not a Stuivenberg (who seems to be getting off scot-free, by the way) who's been at a big club. Sheffield United fans are pretty positive about him, anyway: |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 19, 2021 13:27:02 GMT
Yeah good point. Maybe I should have said doesn’t fill me with much excitement but then I got Estonia tickets and I can’t sit still now.
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Post by marsvolta on Aug 19, 2021 14:59:33 GMT
I can’t say the Alan Knill appointment fills me with much confidence But if he's been part of a coaching set-up which took Sheffield United from League One to the Premier League, he must have something about him as a coach. I'm not comparing him to Osian Roberts, but before being part of the Wales set-up (with the first team), the only senior side he'd ever coached/managed was Porthmadog. Don't think we should dismiss individuals just because they're not a Stuivenberg (who seems to be getting off scot-free, by the way) who's been at a big club. Sheffield United fans are pretty positive about him, anyway: Yeah, there’s quite a few tweets from Sheff Utd fans praising him and wishing him well. |
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Post by barneycat1 on Sept 5, 2021 14:23:28 GMT
Page needs to go. Now.
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Post by quetzal on Sept 5, 2021 15:03:25 GMT
Not at the races. Super worried.
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Post by cynonvalley on Sept 5, 2021 15:11:20 GMT
Well yes, but Gareth Bale has saved him for a little while yet.
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Post by quetzal on Sept 5, 2021 15:15:58 GMT
Well yes, but Gareth Bale has saved him for a little while yet. That’s a problem. Let’s wait for a loss and out of World Cup before we change him. Bonkers |
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Post by cynonvalley on Sept 5, 2021 15:22:46 GMT
Well yes, but Gareth Bale has saved him for a little while yet. That’s a problem. Let’s wait for a loss and out of World Cup before we change him. Bonkers That is what the FAW will do, probably lol. I want him gone too. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 5, 2021 16:01:53 GMT
No credit for the subs that changed the game?
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Post by dai on Sept 5, 2021 16:04:31 GMT
No credit for the subs that changed the game? Yes, probably deserves some credit for throwing Jonny and Harris on. Jonny made the biggest difference, once again. Does he not deserve to start a game maybe? |
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Post by quetzal on Sept 5, 2021 16:04:44 GMT
No credit for the subs that changed the game? Come on! Jonny is always an obvious sub. Does well for us. Harris fluffed is lines. Should have scored. Bale got him out of jail. |
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