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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 5, 2021 16:10:36 GMT
No credit for the subs that changed the game? Come on! Jonny is always an obvious sub. Does well for us. Harris fluffed is lines. Should have scored. Bale got him out of jail. So who are you bringing in as manager before the next set of fixtures in a months time? |
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Post by quetzal on Sept 5, 2021 16:17:38 GMT
Come on! Jonny is always an obvious sub. Does well for us. Harris fluffed is lines. Should have scored. Bale got him out of jail. So who are you bringing in as manager before the next set of fixtures in a months time? Fair question. I’m raging at the moment. We wait until Giggs case then. |
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Post by hooky on Sept 5, 2021 16:20:16 GMT
Look we all know we are stuck with Page until January
He can't lose can he! We all expect him to fail but if we manage somehow to beat Czech Republic and Belgium then he will be there for another 3 years!!!
Obviously we will probably have a play off space though the Nations League but two big wins and we can be in the world cup!
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Post by texan on Sept 5, 2021 21:15:15 GMT
I have serious concerns about our qualification prospects tbh and it makes me quite angry to think we could regress so quickly after having made these gains over the last few years. The first half of the game today was Denmark all over again, suggesting to me that there is a worrying trend. If we do manage to make it, I'll put it down to the squad, not Page. Had Giggs left under normal circumstances Page wouldn't have been anywhere near the running to be appointed manager. He assumed the caretaker role under extraordinary circumstances, a role that's been extended again and again as Giggs' time in front of the beak got pushed back. As such I don't think Page has done anything wrong, to be fair. His role was to continue down Giggs' path until he got back, keep an even keel until then. And in most circumstances like this the players' familiarity with the squad and their roles usually carry a caretaker through a fair few games with but the merest of direction by him. But the longer it goes on without fresh input the staler it becomes, and we are stagnating now. The managers of teams around us are reacting, tweaking and making changes to the direction of their squads in accordance with how they want their side to develop...our is standing still (again, through no fault of his own, he's playing the part to the best of his ability) trying not to rock that boat and keep Giggs' side as he left it until he comes back. I'm of course hoping against hope that this is indeed the case, that Page is fulfilling Giggs' wishes rather than following his own gut, as this would not only explain his decisions but also offer hope that he has something else up his sleeve if he went his own way!If its true and he has any nous, now's the time to show it. He needs to realise this is HIS side now, not Giggs'. If he has a footballing vision or ethos that he (if he was manager) would implement...do it. Because I agree with you that there is a worrying (& downward) trend, there are mistakes in this side, and they're getting worse. I hope this is Page's 'Andorra' and he's able to see the changes that need to be made immediately. |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2021 21:34:27 GMT
I have serious concerns about our qualification prospects tbh and it makes me quite angry to think we could regress so quickly after having made these gains over the last few years. The first half of the game today was Denmark all over again, suggesting to me that there is a worrying trend. If we do manage to make it, I'll put it down to the squad, not Page. Had Giggs left under normal circumstances Page wouldn't have been anywhere near the running to be appointed manager. He assumed the caretaker role under extraordinary circumstances, a role that's been extended again and again as Giggs' time in front of the beak got pushed back. As such I don't think Page has done anything wrong, to be fair. His role was to continue down Giggs' path until he got back, keep an even keel until then. And in most circumstances like this the players' familiarity with the squad and their roles usually carry a caretaker through a fair few games with but the merest of direction by him. But the longer it goes on without fresh input the staler it becomes, and we are stagnating now. The managers of teams around us are reacting, tweaking and making changes to the direction of their squads in accordance with how they want their side to develop...our is standing still (again, through no fault of his own, he's playing the part to the best of his ability) trying not to rock that boat and keep Giggs' side as he left it until he comes back. I'm of course hoping against hope that this is indeed the case, that Page is fulfilling Giggs' wishes rather than following his own gut, as this would not only explain his decisions but also offer hope that he has something else up his sleeve if he went his own way!If its true and he has any nous, now's the time to show it. He needs to realise this is HIS side now, not Giggs'. If he has a footballing vision or ethos that he (if he was manager) would implement...do it. Because I agree with you that there is a worrying (& downward) trend, there are mistakes in this side, and they're getting worse. I hope this is Page's 'Andorra' and he's able to see the changes that need to be made immediately. I think your assumption is incorrect. Page said prior to the euros that it's him now with 100% control, so I think we can assume giggs has no involvement at the moment. The main point is we can't afford to bring anyone else in, so it's pointless asking for it. |
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Post by texan on Sept 5, 2021 21:40:48 GMT
I think your assumption is incorrect. Page said prior to the euros that it's him now with 100% control, so I think we can assume giggs has no involvement at the moment. The main point is we can't afford to bring anyone else in, so it's pointless asking for it. My understanding that was for the Euros finals, Page has also said in the week he’d been speaking quite regularly with Giggs in the build up to these games, also emphasised again on Monday he wasn’t ‘the gaffer’ but the coach. I’m not calling for him to go however, that would plunge us into disarray. If there was to be a change it should have happened in March. Too late now. |
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Post by harry on Sept 5, 2021 22:30:04 GMT
Page was fine for the Euros, given the circumstances and did adequately. The issue I have then is we, as is a Welsh trait, were not ruthless in getting someone else in for the qualifiers. We are not the Make a Wish Foundation, where the nice guy gets a crack at being in charge, he should have been thanked and sent packing.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 5, 2021 22:44:27 GMT
I have serious concerns about our qualification prospects tbh and it makes me quite angry to think we could regress so quickly after having made these gains over the last few years. The first half of the game today was Denmark all over again, suggesting to me that there is a worrying trend. If we do manage to make it, I'll put it down to the squad, not Page. Had Giggs left under normal circumstances Page wouldn't have been anywhere near the running to be appointed manager. He assumed the caretaker role under extraordinary circumstances, a role that's been extended again and again as Giggs' time in front of the beak got pushed back. As such I don't think Page has done anything wrong, to be fair. His role was to continue down Giggs' path until he got back, keep an even keel until then. And in most circumstances like this the players' familiarity with the squad and their roles usually carry a caretaker through a fair few games with but the merest of direction by him. But the longer it goes on without fresh input the staler it becomes, and we are stagnating now. The managers of teams around us are reacting, tweaking and making changes to the direction of their squads in accordance with how they want their side to develop...our is standing still (again, through no fault of his own, he's playing the part to the best of his ability) trying not to rock that boat and keep Giggs' side as he left it until he comes back. I'm of course hoping against hope that this is indeed the case, that Page is fulfilling Giggs' wishes rather than following his own gut, as this would not only explain his decisions but also offer hope that he has something else up his sleeve if he went his own way!If its true and he has any nous, now's the time to show it. He needs to realise this is HIS side now, not Giggs'. If he has a footballing vision or ethos that he (if he was manager) would implement...do it. Because I agree with you that there is a worrying (& downward) trend, there are mistakes in this side, and they're getting worse. I hope this is Page's 'Andorra' and he's able to see the changes that need to be made immediately. I understand. My preference would be to pay off Giggs now and send Page packing. Some will say let's wait until after the qualifiers to see how he does, but by that point, it'll be too late. |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2021 22:44:44 GMT
Page was fine for the Euros, given the circumstances and did adequately. The issue I have then is we, as is a Welsh trait, were not ruthless in getting someone else in for the qualifiers. We are not the Make a Wish Foundation, where the nice guy gets a crack at being in charge, he should have been thanked and sent packing. Utterly clueless. If you are going to make such statements, at least try to back it up. Tell me who we should have gone for and how we would afford them when we've got Giggs' and Page's salaries to cover for another year or two? |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2021 22:45:37 GMT
Had Giggs left under normal circumstances Page wouldn't have been anywhere near the running to be appointed manager. He assumed the caretaker role under extraordinary circumstances, a role that's been extended again and again as Giggs' time in front of the beak got pushed back. As such I don't think Page has done anything wrong, to be fair. His role was to continue down Giggs' path until he got back, keep an even keel until then. And in most circumstances like this the players' familiarity with the squad and their roles usually carry a caretaker through a fair few games with but the merest of direction by him. But the longer it goes on without fresh input the staler it becomes, and we are stagnating now. The managers of teams around us are reacting, tweaking and making changes to the direction of their squads in accordance with how they want their side to develop...our is standing still (again, through no fault of his own, he's playing the part to the best of his ability) trying not to rock that boat and keep Giggs' side as he left it until he comes back. I'm of course hoping against hope that this is indeed the case, that Page is fulfilling Giggs' wishes rather than following his own gut, as this would not only explain his decisions but also offer hope that he has something else up his sleeve if he went his own way!If its true and he has any nous, now's the time to show it. He needs to realise this is HIS side now, not Giggs'. If he has a footballing vision or ethos that he (if he was manager) would implement...do it. Because I agree with you that there is a worrying (& downward) trend, there are mistakes in this side, and they're getting worse. I hope this is Page's 'Andorra' and he's able to see the changes that need to be made immediately. I understand. My preference would be to pay off Giggs now and send Page packing. Some will say let's wait until after the qualifiers to see how he does, but by that point, it'll be too late. Good plan, only issue is it leaves us next to nothing to find a replacement. So what's your next move? |
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Post by pendragon on Sept 5, 2021 22:47:52 GMT
Page was fine for the Euros, given the circumstances and did adequately. The issue I have then is we, as is a Welsh trait, were not ruthless in getting someone else in for the qualifiers. We are not the Make a Wish Foundation, where the nice guy gets a crack at being in charge, he should have been thanked and sent packing. Also, my impression from his post-match interviews is that he thinks we've done well, maybe we could have done a bit better but we've given it our all. How low is Belarus ranked? Yet, they could have done a "Denmark" on us today. |
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Post by pendragon on Sept 5, 2021 22:48:41 GMT
I understand. My preference would be to pay off Giggs now and send Page packing. Some will say let's wait until after the qualifiers to see how he does, but by that point, it'll be too late. Good plan, only issue is it leaves us next to nothing to find a replacement. So what's your next move? Why are you so hostile to criticism of Page? |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 5, 2021 22:49:41 GMT
Good plan, only issue is it leaves us next to nothing to find a replacement. So what's your next move? Why are you so hostile to criticism of Page? Answer the question |
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Post by pendragon on Sept 5, 2021 22:54:52 GMT
Why are you so hostile to criticism of Page? Answer the question Don't get arsy with me. You don't think there's anyone else out there with more experience than Page we could employ on a £400k salary? I'd wager that those the FAW interviewed might be a safer bet than Page. |
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Post by harry on Sept 5, 2021 22:57:05 GMT
Page was fine for the Euros, given the circumstances and did adequately. The issue I have then is we, as is a Welsh trait, were not ruthless in getting someone else in for the qualifiers. We are not the Make a Wish Foundation, where the nice guy gets a crack at being in charge, he should have been thanked and sent packing. Utterly clueless. If you are going to make such statements, at least try to back it up. Tell me who we should have gone for and how we would afford them when we've got Giggs' and Page's salaries to cover for another year or two? It’s not clueless though, is it? It’s rational if anything. I’m not privy to the FAW’s finances, though I’m sure a replacement could have been sought. Off the top of my head Bellamy? Cooper too was clearly leaving Swansea at the time, there’s two. I just believe Wales deserve better than a failed Port Vale manager in the long run. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 5, 2021 23:20:10 GMT
Had Giggs left under normal circumstances Page wouldn't have been anywhere near the running to be appointed manager. He assumed the caretaker role under extraordinary circumstances, a role that's been extended again and again as Giggs' time in front of the beak got pushed back. As such I don't think Page has done anything wrong, to be fair. His role was to continue down Giggs' path until he got back, keep an even keel until then. And in most circumstances like this the players' familiarity with the squad and their roles usually carry a caretaker through a fair few games with but the merest of direction by him. But the longer it goes on without fresh input the staler it becomes, and we are stagnating now. The managers of teams around us are reacting, tweaking and making changes to the direction of their squads in accordance with how they want their side to develop...our is standing still (again, through no fault of his own, he's playing the part to the best of his ability) trying not to rock that boat and keep Giggs' side as he left it until he comes back. I'm of course hoping against hope that this is indeed the case, that Page is fulfilling Giggs' wishes rather than following his own gut, as this would not only explain his decisions but also offer hope that he has something else up his sleeve if he went his own way!If its true and he has any nous, now's the time to show it. He needs to realise this is HIS side now, not Giggs'. If he has a footballing vision or ethos that he (if he was manager) would implement...do it. Because I agree with you that there is a worrying (& downward) trend, there are mistakes in this side, and they're getting worse. I hope this is Page's 'Andorra' and he's able to see the changes that need to be made immediately. I understand. My preference would be to pay off Giggs now and send Page packing. Some will say let's wait until after the qualifiers to see how he does, but by that point, it'll be too late. Would we have to pay Giggs off? I'm on a contract at work with a salary but I can guarantee if I was arrested and charged waiting for a trial I wouldn't be getting paid or still employed. |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2021 23:20:23 GMT
Good plan, only issue is it leaves us next to nothing to find a replacement. So what's your next move? Why are you so hostile to criticism of Page? Not at all, if you read my posts I've been very critical of Page myself. I just take issue with knee-jerk, populist, ill-thought out comments that don't consider the facts at hand. We quite clearly don't have the finances to get another manager in that would improve us. We're currently paying Giggs' full annual salary (rumoured to be around £500k). We're also paying Page and would need to pay the remainder of his contract if he were sacked. So we will essentially have to recruit a new manager whilst already paying off another 2 managers' salaries. I just googled it quickly (apologies for the source), but it appears that Championship managers are paid up to 3.5m (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8262315/Physios-191-000-kit-men-56-000-Crazy-wages-dont-add-EFL-clubs-brink.html). We know that we couldn't compete with Sunderland (bottom of the championship at the time) when they came in for Coleman. So people expect us to sack Page and bring a decent manager in on a league 1 or 2 salary? People are talking like we have a choice between sticking with Page, or sacking him and getting an Eddie Howe, Steve Cooper, Mark Hughes or a Tony Pulis in (some of the names that have been mentioned in the past). But we don't have that choice because we can't afford those types of managers in a million years, it's just not realistic. So the choice is sticking with Page, or going for a lower league manager who we've probably never heard of. I know which one I'd pick |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2021 23:24:22 GMT
Don't get arsy with me. You don't think there's anyone else out there with more experience than Page we could employ on a £400k salary? I'd wager that those the FAW interviewed might be a safer bet than Page. The mistake you're making is you think we could afford to pay someone else £400k (which was roughly reported to be our budget for replacing Coleman) when we're already using that resource to pa Giggs and paying more still for Page. I can't imagine that leaves us a lot to work with! |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2021 23:29:50 GMT
Utterly clueless. If you are going to make such statements, at least try to back it up. Tell me who we should have gone for and how we would afford them when we've got Giggs' and Page's salaries to cover for another year or two? It’s not clueless though, is it? It’s rational if anything. I’m not privy to the FAW’s finances, though I’m sure a replacement could have been sought. Off the top of my head Bellamy? Cooper too was clearly leaving Swansea at the time, there’s two. I just believe Wales deserve better than a failed Port Vale manager in the long run. I'm not privy to their finances either, but there are some facts that we do know, which is they're still paying Giggs his full salary and, as with any other contract termination in football, would need to pay Page out if he were sacked. They've lost a load of money during covid and were reported to make next to nothing (possibly a loss even) from the euros. They've increased their ticket prices for the first time in a while, which again suggests they're struggling financially. Put all that together, and the suggestion of getting someone like Steve Cooper in, who will get a top championship job no doubt, is not realistic in my view. Bellamy might be an option, he may not - it probably depends on how much spare cash they have to fork out, and my guess is it's not a lot at all. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 5, 2021 23:35:34 GMT
Utterly clueless. If you are going to make such statements, at least try to back it up. Tell me who we should have gone for and how we would afford them when we've got Giggs' and Page's salaries to cover for another year or two? It’s not clueless though, is it? It’s rational if anything. I’m not privy to the FAW’s finances, though I’m sure a replacement could have been sought. Off the top of my head Bellamy? Cooper too was clearly leaving Swansea at the time, there’s two. I just believe Wales deserve better than a failed Port Vale manager in the long run. You're just wrong on the finances. We don't just have endless amounts of money. We can't afford to pay 3 managers at once. So basically the only choice if we get rid of Page is Bodin - yeah I don't think you'll be wanting that any time soon I'll be honest, it p*sses me off to no end to see people constantly calling for Page's head since his 1st game in charge. Seen people say we should sack him before the tournament, sack him after losing to Belgium, sack him whilst we are 0-0 with the Czechs, sack him after the Swiss draw, sack him after losing to Italy, sack him for losing to Denmark. Now it's sack him for beating Belarus by not big enough of a margin. Sack him, sack him, sack him, sack him, sack him I guess people like to direct their emotions at an easy target cos it feels nice, regardless of the actual consequences of the things they advocate for. If the "sack him" crowd were the ones making the decisions we'd be ranked 120th in the world, no tournaments in 60 years, regulars in pot 3/4, regulars in League C of the Nations League, already out of the running for qualification in this campaign As it is - we're in League A, two tournaments in 4 years, regulars in pot 2 and above, ranked 19th in the world (12th in Europe), in with a chance of automatic qualification to a world cup, guaranteed at least a playoff. Yet the way people moan and bang on about the manager and performances you'd think we're slap bang in the middle of the dark ages. I'd love to know what you'd think if we were in Ireland's situation right now. Getting 1 point out of 2 home fixtures against Azerbaijan & Luxembourg, without a win in 15 competitive games, no chance of qualification. That's perspective! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 5, 2021 23:36:13 GMT
I understand. My preference would be to pay off Giggs now and send Page packing. Some will say let's wait until after the qualifiers to see how he does, but by that point, it'll be too late. Would we have to pay Giggs off? I'm on a contract at work with a salary but I can guarantee if I was arrested and charged waiting for a trial I wouldn't be getting paid or still employed. Yes we have to pay Giggs unless he's found guilty of something. As it stands legally speaking he's innocent |
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Post by dai on Sept 6, 2021 7:49:25 GMT
It’s not clueless though, is it? It’s rational if anything. I’m not privy to the FAW’s finances, though I’m sure a replacement could have been sought. Off the top of my head Bellamy? Cooper too was clearly leaving Swansea at the time, there’s two. I just believe Wales deserve better than a failed Port Vale manager in the long run. You're just wrong on the finances. We don't just have endless amounts of money. We can't afford to pay 3 managers at once. So basically the only choice if we get rid of Page is Bodin - yeah I don't think you'll be wanting that any time soon I'll be honest, it p*sses me off to no end to see people constantly calling for Page's head since his 1st game in charge. Seen people say we should sack him before the tournament, sack him after losing to Belgium, sack him whilst we are 0-0 with the Czechs, sack him after the Swiss draw, sack him after losing to Italy, sack him for losing to Denmark. Now it's sack him for beating Belarus by not big enough of a margin. Sack him, sack him, sack him, sack him, sack him
I guess people like to direct their emotions at an easy target cos it feels nice, regardless of the actual consequences of the things they advocate for. If the "sack him" crowd were the ones making the decisions we'd be ranked 120th in the world, no tournaments in 60 years, regulars in pot 3/4, regulars in League C of the Nations League, already out of the running for qualification in this campaign As it is - we're in League A, two tournaments in 4 years, regulars in pot 2 and above, ranked 19th in the world (12th in Europe), in with a chance of automatic qualification to a world cup, guaranteed at least a playoff. Yet the way people moan and bang on about the manager and performances you'd think we're slap bang in the middle of the dark ages. I'd love to know what you'd think if we were in Ireland's situation right now. Getting 1 point out of 2 home fixtures against Azerbaijan & Luxembourg, without a win in 15 competitive games, no chance of qualification. That's perspective! I've been questioning Page and suggesting a management change not just on his losses, but because of how our style of play and general performances have decline since he took over. For me, he's been very fortunate that we've still been getting results despite playing some god awful football on the pitch. We didn't deserve to win yesterday, and didn't deserve to beat the Czechs at home. The only time we've actually looked like a cohesive team is bizarrely during friendlies - playing our 'B-team'. Both sets of games during the Nations League against Ireland and Bulgaria we looked awful, to the point that even Nic Parry on S4C said he doesn't remember the last time we saw a Welsh team play this badly. Obviously we're still getting results, which is what's important. Under Speed, Coleman and Giggs to a degree we were at least competitive against good quality opposition - but with Page we seem to be getting outplayed a lot more often. He has this group to improve though, and I hope to see something better on Wednesday. I'm not expecting us to hammer Estonia, as we're not a team that scores a lot, but I would at least expect us to play them off the park and be in control - something which I'm not confident about. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2021 8:50:26 GMT
You're just wrong on the finances. We don't just have endless amounts of money. We can't afford to pay 3 managers at once. So basically the only choice if we get rid of Page is Bodin - yeah I don't think you'll be wanting that any time soon I'll be honest, it p*sses me off to no end to see people constantly calling for Page's head since his 1st game in charge. Seen people say we should sack him before the tournament, sack him after losing to Belgium, sack him whilst we are 0-0 with the Czechs, sack him after the Swiss draw, sack him after losing to Italy, sack him for losing to Denmark. Now it's sack him for beating Belarus by not big enough of a margin. Sack him, sack him, sack him, sack him, sack him
I guess people like to direct their emotions at an easy target cos it feels nice, regardless of the actual consequences of the things they advocate for. If the "sack him" crowd were the ones making the decisions we'd be ranked 120th in the world, no tournaments in 60 years, regulars in pot 3/4, regulars in League C of the Nations League, already out of the running for qualification in this campaign As it is - we're in League A, two tournaments in 4 years, regulars in pot 2 and above, ranked 19th in the world (12th in Europe), in with a chance of automatic qualification to a world cup, guaranteed at least a playoff. Yet the way people moan and bang on about the manager and performances you'd think we're slap bang in the middle of the dark ages. I'd love to know what you'd think if we were in Ireland's situation right now. Getting 1 point out of 2 home fixtures against Azerbaijan & Luxembourg, without a win in 15 competitive games, no chance of qualification. That's perspective! I've been questioning Page and suggesting a management change not just on his losses, but because of how our style of play and general performances have decline since he took over. For me, he's been very fortunate that we've still been getting results despite playing some god awful football on the pitch. We didn't deserve to win yesterday, and didn't deserve to beat the Czechs at home. The only time we've actually looked like a cohesive team is bizarrely during friendlies - playing our 'B-team'. Both sets of games during the Nations League against Ireland and Bulgaria we looked awful, to the point that even Nic Parry on S4C said he doesn't remember the last time we saw a Welsh team play this badly. Obviously we're still getting results, which is what's important. Under Speed, Coleman and Giggs to a degree we were at least competitive against good quality opposition - but with Page we seem to be getting outplayed a lot more often. He has this group to improve though, and I hope to see something better on Wednesday. I'm not expecting us to hammer Estonia, as we're not a team that scores a lot, but I would at least expect us to play them off the park and be in control - something which I'm not confident about. I can understand not being enthralled by the football, and constructive criticism I have no problem with. I just hate the constant mindless calls to sack him |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 6, 2021 8:51:08 GMT
Don't get arsy with me. You don't think there's anyone else out there with more experience than Page we could employ on a £400k salary? I'd wager that those the FAW interviewed might be a safer bet than Page. Pulling you up for avoiding answering simple questions is hardly arsey...I can do a lot worse than that  In answer to your question, no I don't because the FAW are already paying for Giggs and Page's salary so probably cant afford another £400k. Now can you answer what you would do next after 'getting rid of Page' last night with a game Wednesday and 4 more to come? Same question applies to the others calling to 'sack him' while the game was still being played. |
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Post by njdragon on Sept 6, 2021 9:03:16 GMT
If we qualify for a first world cup since the 50's are we still going to be calling for his head!
Think he's doing a superb job - we had half the squad out yesterday!
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Post by redwallnews on Sept 6, 2021 9:10:49 GMT
All the page hate is amusing.
He's only lost 4 games in charge.
Belgium
Italy
France
Denmark
He's won 6 and drew 4 with nearly 50% win ratio.
Get behind him.
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Post by njdragon on Sept 6, 2021 9:17:08 GMT
All the page hate is amusing. He's only lost 4 games in charge. Belgium Italy France Denmark He's won 6 and drew 4 with nearly 50% win ratio. Get behind him. he's in effect a manager exactly like Coleman - man manager probably not the greatest ever tactician but we are winning. It was Bale that got us out of loads of dodgy situations during Coleman era too. |
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Post by redwallnews on Sept 6, 2021 9:19:11 GMT
All the page hate is amusing. He's only lost 4 games in charge. Belgium Italy France Denmark He's won 6 and drew 4 with nearly 50% win ratio. Get behind him. he's in effect a manager exactly like Coleman - man manager probably not the greatest ever tactician but we are winning. It was Bale that got us out of loads of dodgy situations during Coleman era too. Spot on buddy. He's been chucked in the deep end not his fault and he's grown into the roll. I quite like him in charge of the team, if he could bring in someone tactically astute similar to how Osian worked with Cookie then we can go far. |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Sept 6, 2021 9:25:01 GMT
All the page hate is amusing. He's only lost 4 games in charge. Belgium Italy France Denmark He's won 6 and drew 4 with nearly 50% win ratio. Get behind him. That's pretty much my take on it. I thought we had a fantastic Euro's, getting to the knock out stages for a country of our size is a great achievement in my view. There are players who are past their best and others we deem not quite up to the job. I don't however see loads of obvious alternatives. We need to get the backline working better for sure but there was nobody available who are significantly better than those we had in there last night. |
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Post by pendragon on Sept 6, 2021 13:11:55 GMT
Don't get arsy with me. You don't think there's anyone else out there with more experience than Page we could employ on a £400k salary? I'd wager that those the FAW interviewed might be a safer bet than Page. Pulling you up for avoiding answering simple questions is hardly arsey...I can do a lot worse than that In answer to your question, no I don't because the FAW are already paying for Giggs and Page's salary so probably cant afford another £400k. Now can you answer what you would do next after 'getting rid of Page' last night with a game Wednesday and 4 more to come? Same question applies to the others calling to 'sack him' while the game was still being played. I apologise for that comment. You pay Giggs off for the rest of his contract, which ends in January. Yes, I realise there are four months left on it but if he is found guilty, the FAW are going to have to hire someone else come January anyway 🤷♂️ Look for someone else and if we can get someone suitable, pay him off. We are not the first to be in this position and we won't be the last either. |
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