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Post by iot on Mar 30, 2019 19:44:55 GMT
Another 90' and got an assist. Scored 7.5 on my app - so must have ben fairly decent ;-) He's playing well every time he's played for leeds these past couple of months, so I don't understand why he was so poor for us. I thought he had a negative impact after coming on last sunday with really poor movement.
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Post by welshiron on Mar 31, 2019 9:00:42 GMT
Thought he did ok when he came on.
Hard coming on sometimes especially in a different position to your usual.
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Post by alarch on Mar 31, 2019 10:33:54 GMT
It was a bit of a mixed bag from him. He drew a yellow card from Hamsik (with a bit of luck he'll nab his third just before they play us in the return fixture) by drawing him in before turning. But some of his play was a bit naive, as you'd expect given his level of experience. But the experience will stand him in good stead for later on in the campaign. That's one of the biggest gains from the Slovakia game in general - a lot of players getting serious competitive experience for the first time.
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Post by dai on Mar 31, 2019 13:42:39 GMT
What is his preferred/best position? Someone mentioned a no10 but he Doesnt look creative or clever enough to do that. Dont mean to be detrimental because he's done a good job in all caps so far, just confused by where he plays best. Thought he was meant to be an out and out striker but thats not looking likely.
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Post by manulike on Mar 31, 2019 14:10:58 GMT
What is his preferred/best position? Someone mentioned a no10 but he Doesnt look creative or clever enough to do that. Dont mean to be detrimental because he's done a good job in all caps so far, just confused by where he plays best. Thought he was meant to be an out and out striker but thats not looking likely. From what I've seen of him at Leeds, he has never been an out an out striker there. A couple of matches at number ten, but mainly a floating winger
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Post by manulike on Apr 6, 2019 13:38:37 GMT
Tyler had yet another very good match. Played the whole 90' in the number 10 role and had two shots (off target). More importantly, he combined really well with Bamford, that should have scored at least two (maybe even three) from exquisite balls Tyler gave him.
Testimony to his quality, when Roofe came on (for the first time in ten weeks) after 70' he replaced Bamford and not Roberts - despite United trailing in the game!
The Dutch commentator was saying that he expects great things from our Tyler ;-)
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Post by manulike on Apr 9, 2019 19:43:17 GMT
Having another very decent game. Started totally on fire, making three superb gifts of oppertunities for Bamford. From what I have seen in the last three matches, Tyler should have had at least ten assists - almost all to Bamfird...
Cenrtainly playing himself into the starting 11 - at least for the Hungary game.
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Post by pendragon on Apr 9, 2019 19:54:23 GMT
That's very worthy praise indeed manulike!
I'll admit that I haven't watched a great deal of Leeds United in action, but have often found Tyler a bit hit and miss for us. Judging by some of his results with Leeds, it's clear he has potential but perhaps the pressure of the occasion might affect him on the international stage? He's only 19 though and the fact that he's getting experience playing first team football at one of the top Championship sides who may be destined for the Premier League, is very promising.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 9, 2019 20:02:34 GMT
That's very worthy praise indeed manulike! I'll admit that I haven't watched a great deal of Leeds United in action, but have often found Tyler a bit hit and miss for us. Judging by some of his results with Leeds, it's clear he has potential but perhaps the pressure of the occasion might affect him on the international stage? He's only 19 though and the fact that he's getting experience playing first team football at one of the top Championship sides who may be destined for the Premier League, is very promising. Against Ireland it was a tough ask for him up front on his own in his first start with little experience around him. He struggled against a quality Denmark side, but then again so did all of our team. Against T&T he played on the right which was new to him, and didn't have long against Slovakia. So I wouldn't personally judge him too much, he's still finding his way at senior level, and I think he'll be an asset off the bench/someone to fill in for injuries moving forward for the rest of our campaign. I wouldn't start him as I believe on current form our best front 4 is Ramsey, Brooks, James & Bale. Wilson & Roberts being our first alternatives should any of these be ruled out.
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Post by pendragon on Apr 9, 2019 20:06:08 GMT
That's very worthy praise indeed manulike! I'll admit that I haven't watched a great deal of Leeds United in action, but have often found Tyler a bit hit and miss for us. Judging by some of his results with Leeds, it's clear he has potential but perhaps the pressure of the occasion might affect him on the international stage? He's only 19 though and the fact that he's getting experience playing first team football at one of the top Championship sides who may be destined for the Premier League, is very promising. Against Ireland it was a tough ask for him up front on his own in his first start with little experience around him. He struggled against a quality Denmark side, but then again so did all of our team. Against T&T he played on the right which was new to him, and didn't have long against Slovakia. So I wouldn't personally judge him too much, he's still finding his way at senior level, and I think he'll be an asset off the bench/someone to fill in for injuries moving forward for the rest of our campaign. I wouldn't start him as I believe on current form our best front 4 is Ramsey, Brooks, James & Bale. Wilson & Roberts being our first alternatives should any of these be ruled out. Agree pretty much with all of that tbf.
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Post by dai on Apr 9, 2019 20:25:55 GMT
That's very worthy praise indeed manulike! I'll admit that I haven't watched a great deal of Leeds United in action, but have often found Tyler a bit hit and miss for us. Judging by some of his results with Leeds, it's clear he has potential but perhaps the pressure of the occasion might affect him on the international stage? He's only 19 though and the fact that he's getting experience playing first team football at one of the top Championship sides who may be destined for the Premier League, is very promising. Against Ireland it was a tough ask for him up front on his own in his first start with little experience around him. He struggled against a quality Denmark side, but then again so did all of our team. Against T&T he played on the right which was new to him, and didn't have long against Slovakia. So I wouldn't personally judge him too much, he's still finding his way at senior level, and I think he'll be an asset off the bench/someone to fill in for injuries moving forward for the rest of our campaign. I wouldn't start him as I believe on current form our best front 4 is Ramsey, Brooks, James & Bale. Wilson & Roberts being our first alternatives should any of these be ruled out. Tom Lawrence? He's in a different league to Roberts tbh.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 9, 2019 20:30:26 GMT
Against Ireland it was a tough ask for him up front on his own in his first start with little experience around him. He struggled against a quality Denmark side, but then again so did all of our team. Against T&T he played on the right which was new to him, and didn't have long against Slovakia. So I wouldn't personally judge him too much, he's still finding his way at senior level, and I think he'll be an asset off the bench/someone to fill in for injuries moving forward for the rest of our campaign. I wouldn't start him as I believe on current form our best front 4 is Ramsey, Brooks, James & Bale. Wilson & Roberts being our first alternatives should any of these be ruled out. Tom Lawrence? He's in a different league to Roberts tbh. Good point! Forgot about Lawrence. Having Lawrence, Wilson & Roberts on the bench is a testiment to how much our depth has improved.
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Post by manulike on Apr 13, 2019 16:12:07 GMT
You are all invited to feast your eyes on our Tyler this evening. He is keeping the fit again Roofe out of the starting XI ;-)
As I said, strong contender to starting v Hungary IMHO.
A win today will put LUFC 2nd again, as Shef U only drew
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Post by manulike on Apr 13, 2019 17:21:10 GMT
Forced another two amazing saves of the goalie, on top of the two above. Having a very decent first half.
Any new converts to #TEAM-TYLER?
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Post by robin1864 on Apr 13, 2019 17:28:54 GMT
Weird how people didn't rate him, I think he'll become one of our most influential players.
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Post by iot on Apr 13, 2019 22:21:14 GMT
Forced another two amazing saves of the goalie, on top of the two above. Having a very decent first half. Any new converts to #TEAM-TYLER? You seem to have watched him quite a bit recently, where would you say is his best position? I can't see him as an out and out CF in the long-term as he's not enough of a goal threat. I remember even when he was seen as a top prospect in the west brom academy, he was never prolific and would only score something like 1 in 3 at that level. For me, he's disappointed in almost all his appearances for us as a CF - particularly Ireland away and Denmark home where the game seemed to pass him by. I wasn't impressed with him on the right wing against T&T and slovakia and, from my understanding, he's been playing just behind the striker recently for leeds? So I'm assuming that's his best position?If so, I cant see how he fits in the current team?
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Post by manulike on Apr 13, 2019 23:50:03 GMT
Forced another two amazing saves of the goalie, on top of the two above. Having a very decent first half. Any new converts to #TEAM-TYLER? You seem to have watched him quite a bit recently, where would you say is his best position? I can't see him as an out and out CF in the long-term as he's not enough of a goal threat. I remember even when he was seen as a top prospect in the west brom academy, he was never prolific and would only score something like 1 in 3 at that level. For me, he's disappointed in almost all his appearances for us as a CF - particularly Ireland away and Denmark home where the game seemed to pass him by. I wasn't impressed with him on the right wing against T&T and slovakia and, from my understanding, he's been playing just behind the striker recently for leeds? So I'm assuming that's his best position?If so, I cant see how he fits in the current team? I don't have a footballing mind or any qualifications - I just say it as I see it. Yes. He has played as a roaming number 10. It looks like Leeds play with two number tens and Tyler floats/rotates just behind the main striker - Bamford. You are right about his finishing - I think it is 3 goals this season. For me, his main skill is as a provider. He really does make things happen and has crafted at least twnety decent chances for the team in the last 4 or 5 matches. I say that I would like to see him play v Hungary, as I assume that we will play 4-2-3-1 AND that 2 or 3 players from the Croatia game would need to miss out / fitness / or are injured.
In that system, with James/Tyler/Brooks and Bale up front. Yes. I am pulling Rambo back deeper with Allen. Smith is the one missing out in this plan out in Budapest.
In the Leeds team he has played every single match since 19 January. Perhaps missing one game. That confidence from Bielse is evidence enough of his skills.
At the moment, he is not in my first XI for Croatia - but he is certainly knocking on the door.
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Post by manulike on Apr 14, 2019 20:11:19 GMT
Tyler getting a whole lottta love from the United fans ;-)
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Post by underwood on Apr 15, 2019 10:48:27 GMT
We shouldn’t get too ahead of ourselves here. Taking nothing away from Roberts, it’s one thing to look effective against mid-table Championship sides whilst playing in a winning team, quite another to come up against the nous of hardened international defenders, some of whom have played a World Cup Final 12 months previously.
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Post by manulike on Apr 15, 2019 13:40:13 GMT
We shouldn’t get too ahead of ourselves here. Taking nothing away from Roberts, it’s one thing to look effective against mid-table Championship sides whilst playing in a winning team, quite another to come up against the nous of hardened international defenders, some of whom have played a World Cup Final 12 months previously. Hungary were not at a WC semi final recently TTBOMK... Also, his direct 'competition' in Lawrence and James are playing at the same level... Just happy for Giggsy to have that headache tbh.
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Post by donttakemehomebutt - Lobsy on Apr 15, 2019 16:25:03 GMT
tyler looks decent but vokes has to start ahead of him come June. first twenty yards is in your head, that's why pace isn't going do much ddamage against an experienced, deep siting team like croatia or hungry
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Post by welshiron on Apr 16, 2019 14:20:55 GMT
I would still be playing if the first 20 yards were all in the head
Total bollox
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Post by manulike on Apr 20, 2019 11:53:16 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Apr 20, 2019 23:08:29 GMT
I would still be playing if the first 20 yards were all in the head Total bollox 20 yards is excessive. 5 yards probably with experience, anything more than that you’re getting done for pace. If it’s 20 yards there’s 55 yards in a half... you could have an experienced defender on the half way line, an experienced goalkeeper on the edge of his area to mop up. Anything within 20 yards of the defender is his, anything within 20 yards of the keeper on the 18 yard box is his... entire half covered. Clean sheet city!
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Post by manulike on Apr 22, 2019 17:06:34 GMT
Sadly, Tyler is far from his best today, in the first half. Had two (poor) shots on target, but had many more poor touches and misplaced passes. That said, his movement off the ball is still very good. Leeds trailing 1-0 at half time may force Bielse's hand to play with Bamford and Roofe? Hopefully, Tyler will stay on and redeem himslef in 2nd half ;-)
UPDATE Off after 57'. Improved a little and created two decent openings, but not to be...
United v County in the play offs, its looking like ;-)
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Post by manulike on Apr 27, 2019 18:33:47 GMT
Massive game at noon Sunday. Taylor v Tyler ;-)
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Post by manulike on Apr 28, 2019 11:21:35 GMT
Bielse losing the plot ... Tyler only on the bench. If I remember correctly, he has started every game this year so far, bar the DCFC match in Jan.
UPDATE Just to prove my point ... Bielse got yellow card at the end of the 1st half AND Tyler is on the field at the start of the second...
Had a SUPERB 45'. If he had Dan James or Bale up there with him, he would have had 3 or 4 assists. As it was, he had one (very controversial) assist ... Started on the right, but Bielse soon realised that Taylor had him in his pocket (with 3 great blocks/clearances) - so he moved him to the left, from where he ran the show ;-)
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Post by wirralwelsh on Apr 28, 2019 14:52:29 GMT
Probably the most dubious assist of the 2019 season and if Dan James was there wouldn't he have been playing in the same position as he was apparently running the show from?
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Post by manulike on May 7, 2019 21:21:04 GMT
I'm not alone in banging the drum for Tyler ;-)
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Post by manulike on May 11, 2019 15:33:37 GMT
Unfortunately, Tyler out with an ankle injury, for first play off. Said to have a decent chance of playing on Tuesday
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