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Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 24, 2018 10:03:29 GMT
I'd have Chester & Davies at centre back, whilst slowly blooding either Lockyer or Mepham. Truth is a lot of our players are now in the sunset stage of their careers with their best years behind them, namely Hennessey and Williams. Would love to see Ash become a beast again this season, but he just seems to have lost his mind completely and time isn't on his side anymore. Hennessy is a day younger than Ledley and a keeper. ! He deserves a bit of slack considering he's our only premiership keeper and up against some of the best players in the world week in week out! We're lucky to have him . Hennessy's best start to a season for years with Palace, all the other likely candidates are warming the bench somewhere. Who else could we pick? |
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Post by melynwy on Aug 24, 2018 10:45:10 GMT
Truth is a lot of our players are now in the sunset stage of their careers with their best years behind them, namely Hennessey and Williams. Hmm. I'm very much hoping that Hennessey's best years are ahead of him, he's only 31! I don't think he's a very good goalkeeper - his footwork and positioning sometimes lead to goals that should have been prevented (although because of his poor footwork and positioning, he doesn't actually look at fault that often - see Nainggolan's long range goal in the Euros quarter final.) and his distribution is poor, but he does seem to be improving with experience. He's been a calming influence for us on many occasions |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 24, 2018 11:40:35 GMT
At 31 he's probably got another good 5 years ahead of him so until Ward or Maxwell start playing regular top flight football, its Wayne all the way.
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Post by larslagerback on Aug 24, 2018 15:36:47 GMT
Truth is a lot of our players are now in the sunset stage of their careers with their best years behind them, namely Hennessey and Williams. Hmm. I'm very much hoping that Hennessey's best years are ahead of him, he's only 31! I don't think he's a very good goalkeeper - his footwork and positioning sometimes lead to goals that should have been prevented (although because of his poor footwork and positioning, he doesn't actually look at fault that often - see Nainggolan's long range goal in the Euros quarter final.) and his distribution is poor, but he does seem to be improving with experience. He's been a calming influence for us on many occasions He looked in decent nick against Liverpool. |
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Post by pendragon on Oct 1, 2018 21:41:14 GMT
Hennessey made a few fine saves tonight. Saved Palace's skins on a couple of occasions towards the end.
Sakho pulling on Lerma near the penalty area resulted in a penalty for Bournemouth which was a shame for Palace. Felt gutted for Hennessey after his hard work.
But a decent turnout from Wayne.
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Post by underwood on Oct 2, 2018 7:29:08 GMT
Hennessey made a few fine saves tonight. Saved Palace's skins on a couple of occasions towards the end. Sakho pulling on Lerma near the penalty area resulted in a penalty for Bournemouth which was a shame for Palace. Felt gutted for Hennessey after his hard work. But a decent turnout from Wayne. I hesitate to say it, but Wayne is arguably having his most consistent season ever. |
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Post by superunknown on Oct 2, 2018 10:01:15 GMT
Hennessey made a few fine saves tonight. Saved Palace's skins on a couple of occasions towards the end. Sakho pulling on Lerma near the penalty area resulted in a penalty for Bournemouth which was a shame for Palace. Felt gutted for Hennessey after his hard work. But a decent turnout from Wayne. I hesitate to say it, but Wayne is arguably having his most consistent season ever. If any of you play fantasy premier league he's actually the highest scoring goalkeeper which takes into clean sheets, saves and if they've had a particularly good game they receive bonus points. Think he's having a cracking season but easy for him to clip under the radar especially when Brooks is scoring peaches past him. |
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Post by iot on Oct 2, 2018 13:35:14 GMT
I agree he's having a great season. However, if I were being hypercritical, I reckon he should have saved that Brooks goal yesterday. It was a great strike and went in off the bar, however it was also not far from the middle of the goal. Hennessey wasn't far off but made a poor dive for it. It would have been an excellent save had he made it, but it definitely wasn't 'unsavable'.
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Post by larslagerback on Oct 2, 2018 19:13:17 GMT
I agree he's having a great season. However, if I were being hypercritical, I reckon he should have saved that Brooks goal yesterday. It was a great strike and went in off the bar, however it was also not far from the middle of the goal. Hennessey wasn't far off but made a poor dive for it. It would have been an excellent save had he made it, but it definitely wasn't 'unsavable'. Ok then. |
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Post by iot on Oct 2, 2018 19:52:01 GMT
I agree he's having a great season. However, if I were being hypercritical, I reckon he should have saved that Brooks goal yesterday. It was a great strike and went in off the bar, however it was also not far from the middle of the goal. Hennessey wasn't far off but made a poor dive for it. It would have been an excellent save had he made it, but it definitely wasn't 'unsavable'. Ok then. nice contribution |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 2, 2018 21:02:21 GMT
He is having a fine season so far not only for Palace but for Wales as well.
I think Roy bringing in another goalkeeper and a new goalkeeping coach has done him good.
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Post by larslagerback on Oct 2, 2018 22:15:25 GMT
Thanks. You say yourself you're being hypercritical but then carry on anyway. I'm not particularly a Hennessey fan but I wouldn't expect the love child of Southall and Lev Yashin to have saved that. |
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Post by iot on Oct 3, 2018 12:59:08 GMT
Thanks. You say yourself you're being hypercritical but then carry on anyway. I'm not particularly a Hennessey fan but I wouldn't expect the love child of Southall and Lev Yashin to have saved that. I do carry on anyway because it's a point made several times by others on here - that Hennessey sometimes make goals (including Naingolan's at the euros) look better than they are because he can be slow reacting to them and slow off the mark. It's difficult to judge, but I'm pretty sure a De Gea could have saved it. I saw a link someone sent recently of all the wonder goals scored against Hennessey - Giroud's scorpion kick, Alli's turn and shot a couple years back, and there were many more. The narrative that went with the link resembled something along the line of 'poor hennessey, conceding to all these wonder strikes'. But I suspect that it isn't down to luck, he concedes more long-range 'wonder strikes' than your average keeper because he isn't as good at keeping them out. |
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Post by larslagerback on Oct 3, 2018 22:27:27 GMT
Thanks. You say yourself you're being hypercritical but then carry on anyway. I'm not particularly a Hennessey fan but I wouldn't expect the love child of Southall and Lev Yashin to have saved that. I do carry on anyway because it's a point made several times by others on here - that Hennessey sometimes make goals (including Naingolan's at the euros) look better than they are because he can be slow reacting to them and slow off the mark. It's difficult to judge, but I'm pretty sure a De Gea could have saved it. I saw a link someone sent recently of all the wonder goals scored against Hennessey - Giroud's scorpion kick, Alli's turn and shot a couple years back, and there were many more. The narrative that went with the link resembled something along the line of 'poor hennessey, conceding to all these wonder strikes'. But I suspect that it isn't down to luck, he concedes more long-range 'wonder strikes' than your average keeper because he isn't as good at keeping them out. Maybe. But it would have been an incredible save to stop Brooks' effort. All pointless discussion really as he's comfortably our best keeper and looks like staying that way for years now that Ward has cashed out. |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 6, 2018 15:09:04 GMT
Wayne having another great game against Wolves in a really wet day in Croydon.
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Post by iot on Oct 6, 2018 22:46:31 GMT
Pulled off an amazing save but again, I think he should have done better with the goal.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 8, 2018 20:37:43 GMT
Pulled off an amazing save but again, I think he should have done better with the goal. The Wolves player should never have even got his shot in poor defending. |
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 11, 2018 19:17:27 GMT
So, now we've reached the conclusion of this rollercoaster, what changes should be made? I'd start with dropping Hennessey, he's shite. Play some friendlies, let Maxwell and Ward fight it out for #1, and I think we'd benefit massively. No idea how many times I have to trot this out. Doomed to hapless goalkeeping so long as Hennessey is a dead-cert. 3-0 and it's not even half an hour. |
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 11, 2018 19:32:59 GMT
obin1864 said:So, now we've reached the conclusion of this rollercoaster, what changes should be made?
I'd start with dropping Hennessey, he's shite. Play some friendlies, let Maxwell and Ward fight it out for #1, and I think we'd benefit massively.
No idea how many times I have to trot this out. Doomed to hapless goalkeeping so long as Hennessey is a dead-cert. 3-0 and it's not even half an hour.
^^^^^no idea why you think this is the solution
Ward never actually plays and if you think Maxwell would last week in week out in the Premier League like Hennessey then you are suffering from a case of wishful thinking .
Also, if you think the fact that we are getting hammered because of Hennessey alone then you are deluding yourself
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 11, 2018 19:37:08 GMT
obin1864 said:So, now we've reached the conclusion of this rollercoaster, what changes should be made? I'd start with dropping Hennessey, he's shite. Play some friendlies, let Maxwell and Ward fight it out for #1, and I think we'd benefit massively. No idea how many times I have to trot this out. Doomed to hapless goalkeeping so long as Hennessey is a dead-cert. 3-0 and it's not even half an hour. ^^^^^no idea why you think this is the solution Ward never actually plays and if you think Maxwell would last week in week out in the Premier League like Hennessey then you are suffering from a case of wishful thinking . Also, if you think the fact that we are getting hammered because of Hennessey alone then you are deluding yourself It's introducing him to competition. He's had an easy ride his entire international career, and can play as shit as he pleases knowing he'll 100% start the next game. Ward & Maxwell are proven upper-Championship quality players, it's not hard to see them doing alright in the Premier League. Time to start phasing out Ash too. As much as I love him, he's struggled for the past couple of seasons and is showing it tonight. |
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 11, 2018 20:00:38 GMT
obin1864 said:So, now we've reached the conclusion of this rollercoaster, what changes should be made? I'd start with dropping Hennessey, he's shite. Play some friendlies, let Maxwell and Ward fight it out for #1, and I think we'd benefit massively. No idea how many times I have to trot this out. Doomed to hapless goalkeeping so long as Hennessey is a dead-cert. 3-0 and it's not even half an hour. ^^^^^no idea why you think this is the solution Ward never actually plays and if you think Maxwell would last week in week out in the Premier League like Hennessey then you are suffering from a case of wishful thinking . Also, if you think the fact that we are getting hammered because of Hennessey alone then you are deluding yourself It's introducing him to competition. He's had an easy ride his entire international career, and can play as shit as he pleases knowing he'll 100% start the next game. Ward & Maxwell are proven upper-Championship quality players, it's not hard to see them doing alright in the Premier League. Time to start phasing out Ash too. As much as I love him, he's struggled for the past couple of seasons and is showing it tonight. There is nothing to suggest that Hennessey just ‘plays as shit as he pleases’ just because there’s no one else playing at his level to challenge him. I agree about Williams though |
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 11, 2018 20:15:38 GMT
It's introducing him to competition. He's had an easy ride his entire international career, and can play as shit as he pleases knowing he'll 100% start the next game. Ward & Maxwell are proven upper-Championship quality players, it's not hard to see them doing alright in the Premier League. Time to start phasing out Ash too. As much as I love him, he's struggled for the past couple of seasons and is showing it tonight. There is nothing to suggest that Hennessey just ‘plays as shit as he pleases’ just because there’s no one else playing at his level to challenge him. I agree about Williams though Ward is perfectly capable of challenging him. The fact a player hasn't appeared for their club regularly hasn't stopped us picking and playing players before. |
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 11, 2018 21:42:13 GMT
So, now we've reached the conclusion of this rollercoaster, what changes should be made? I'd start with dropping Hennessey, he's shite. Play some friendlies, let Maxwell and Ward fight it out for #1, and I think we'd benefit massively. No idea how many times I have to trot this out. Doomed to hapless goalkeeping so long as Hennessey is a dead-cert. 3-0 and it's not even half an hour. To be fair though how many did he stand a chance with tonight? The punch wasn’t the best but he got it clear, the defence let a guy turn in the box, I’d be more concerned with that. The second goal they didn’t even bother to mark probably the highest scoring centreback in world football. The 3rd Wilson put it on a plate for the striker. 4th was unstoppable I think. I’m not against dropping Hennessey but don’t think he can be blamed for the goals, maybe the first. |
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 11, 2018 21:47:59 GMT
No idea how many times I have to trot this out. Doomed to hapless goalkeeping so long as Hennessey is a dead-cert. 3-0 and it's not even half an hour. To be fair though how many did he stand a chance with tonight? The punch wasn’t the best but he got it clear, the defence let a guy turn in the box, I’d be more concerned with that. The second goal they didn’t even bother to mark probably the highest scoring centreback in world football. The 3rd Wilson put it on a plate for the striker. 4th was unstoppable I think. I’m not against dropping Hennessey but don’t think he can be blamed for the goals, maybe the first. It's a culmination of mistakes over a long period of time. I could list dozens of times from the past few qualifying campaigns where his shit positioning and lack of effort have led to goals at crucial moments. We need a shake-up between the sticks and giving Wayne a reminder he's not untouchable would ultimately make us and Wayne much stronger I feel, because unlike Myhill he doesn't seem like a cry-arse bottler. |
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Post by alarch on Oct 11, 2018 21:53:01 GMT
Over-reaction there. Hennessey's punch was poor - but he did prevent a fourth early in the second half when faced with a one-on-one. The Albania game would be a good chance to experiment with a different goalie.
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Post by alarch on Oct 11, 2018 21:55:39 GMT
To be fair though how many did he stand a chance with tonight? The punch wasn’t the best but he got it clear, the defence let a guy turn in the box, I’d be more concerned with that. The second goal they didn’t even bother to mark probably the highest scoring centreback in world football. The 3rd Wilson put it on a plate for the striker. 4th was unstoppable I think. I’m not against dropping Hennessey but don’t think he can be blamed for the goals, maybe the first. It's a culmination of mistakes over a long period of time. I could list dozens of times from the past few qualifying campaigns where his shit positioning and lack of effort have led to goals at crucial moments. We need a shake-up between the sticks and giving Wayne a reminder he's not untouchable would ultimately make us and Wayne much stronger I feel, because unlike Myhill he doesn't seem like a cry-arse bottler. Can't agree with that. Hennessey's distribution is poor - but his shot-stopping (e.g. Bosnia at home in the Euro campaign) has been good on the whole. His command of his area has also been great (until tonight). It's a shame - but there's no one to challenge him right now. |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 11, 2018 21:58:48 GMT
So, now we've reached the conclusion of this rollercoaster, what changes should be made? I'd start with dropping Hennessey, he's shite. Play some friendlies, let Maxwell and Ward fight it out for #1, and I think we'd benefit massively. No idea how many times I have to trot this out. Doomed to hapless goalkeeping so long as Hennessey is a dead-cert. 3-0 and it's not even half an hour. No its not Wayne,s fault, its a team game and the experienced players in front of him were woeful. |
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 11, 2018 21:59:13 GMT
To be fair though how many did he stand a chance with tonight? The punch wasn’t the best but he got it clear, the defence let a guy turn in the box, I’d be more concerned with that. The second goal they didn’t even bother to mark probably the highest scoring centreback in world football. The 3rd Wilson put it on a plate for the striker. 4th was unstoppable I think. I’m not against dropping Hennessey but don’t think he can be blamed for the goals, maybe the first. It's a culmination of mistakes over a long period of time. I could list dozens of times from the past few qualifying campaigns where his shit positioning and lack of effort have led to goals at crucial moments. We need a shake-up between the sticks and giving Wayne a reminder he's not untouchable would ultimately make us and Wayne much stronger I feel, because unlike Myhill he doesn't seem like a cry-arse bottler. If you don’t rate him then fair enough but I really don’t get why you get the idea that Hennessey has got a ‘lack of effort’ or ‘plays as shit as he pleases’ |
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 11, 2018 22:04:02 GMT
It's a culmination of mistakes over a long period of time. I could list dozens of times from the past few qualifying campaigns where his shit positioning and lack of effort have led to goals at crucial moments. We need a shake-up between the sticks and giving Wayne a reminder he's not untouchable would ultimately make us and Wayne much stronger I feel, because unlike Myhill he doesn't seem like a cry-arse bottler. Can't agree with that. Hennessey's distribution is poor - but his shot-stopping (e.g. Bosnia at home in the Euro campaign) has been good on the whole. His command of his area has also been great (until tonight). It's a shame - but there's no one to challenge him right now. Ward is a Championship promotion winner, same as Hennessey. Maxwell missed out narrowly on the play-offs last season. They're all roughly the same level, or thereabouts. The truth is nobody has the minerals to challenge his selection. The "playing regular club football" pre-requisite didn't seem to affect HRK much, and he was in a much more expendable position. |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 11, 2018 22:09:16 GMT
Can't agree with that. Hennessey's distribution is poor - but his shot-stopping (e.g. Bosnia at home in the Euro campaign) has been good on the whole. His command of his area has also been great (until tonight). It's a shame - but there's no one to challenge him right now. Ward is a Championship promotion winner, same as Hennessey. Maxwell missed out narrowly on the play-offs last season. They're all roughly the same level, or thereabouts. The truth is nobody has the minerals to challenge his selection. The "playing regular club football" pre-requisite didn't seem to affect HRK much, and he was in a much more expendable position. Excuse me but Wayne has been playing well this season for Palace and Wales short memories against Denmark. |
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