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Post by robin1864 on Oct 11, 2018 22:17:45 GMT
Ward is a Championship promotion winner, same as Hennessey. Maxwell missed out narrowly on the play-offs last season. They're all roughly the same level, or thereabouts. The truth is nobody has the minerals to challenge his selection. The "playing regular club football" pre-requisite didn't seem to affect HRK much, and he was in a much more expendable position. Excuse me but Wayne has been playing well this season for Palace and Wales short memories against Denmark. He's had to play well at Palace, club football is a cutthroat world and his competition in Guaita has played at a much better level than him. Wales is a different story though; he could fall asleep between the sticks, concede 10 and still start the next game. Introduce competition in the national side, make him fight for it. We'll all be better for it. |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 11, 2018 22:27:08 GMT
Excuse me but Wayne has been playing well this season for Palace and Wales short memories against Denmark. He's had to play well at Palace, club football is a cutthroat world and his competition in Guaita has played at a much better level than him. Wales is a different story though; he could fall asleep between the sticks, concede 10 and still start the next game. Introduce competition in the national side, make him fight for it. We'll all be better for it. No bro I would say the premier league is far superior to the spanish league. Yes agree competition is good maybe you need to tell that Ward instead of siting on the substitutes bench every week earning vast amounts of money, he should put career progression and being No 1 above greed. |
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Post by iot on Oct 11, 2018 22:42:18 GMT
Hennessey had a 9/10 performance against Denmark, made no more than 1-2 mistakes in our 10 world cup qualifiers, and had a very good qualifying campaign for the euros. He also has well over a 100 appearances in the premier league. Meanwhile his competitors have no more than 2 premier league appearances between them. Laying blame at Hennessey is a complete red herring
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Post by bale-droed on Oct 11, 2018 22:48:06 GMT
Hennessey had a 9/10 performance against Denmark, made no more than 1-2 mistakes in our 10 world cup qualifiers, and had a very good qualifying campaign for the euros. He also has well over a 100 appearances in the premier league. Meanwhile his competitors have no more than 2 premier league appearances between them. Laying blame at Hennessey is a complete red herring Good wc qualifiers? You joking. Go look at the statistics from those games and look at how many shots were on on target that he left in. Serbia 2 shots 2 goals conceded, Ireland one on target one conceded etc |
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 11, 2018 22:48:57 GMT
To be fair though how many did he stand a chance with tonight? The punch wasn’t the best but he got it clear, the defence let a guy turn in the box, I’d be more concerned with that. The second goal they didn’t even bother to mark probably the highest scoring centreback in world football. The 3rd Wilson put it on a plate for the striker. 4th was unstoppable I think. I’m not against dropping Hennessey but don’t think he can be blamed for the goals, maybe the first. It's a culmination of mistakes over a long period of time. I could list dozens of times from the past few qualifying campaigns where his shit positioning and lack of effort have led to goals at crucial moments. We need a shake-up between the sticks and giving Wayne a reminder he's not untouchable would ultimately make us and Wayne much stronger I feel, because unlike Myhill he doesn't seem like a cry-arse bottler. I’d quite like to see Ward get a run out against Albania too. Maxwell though I just don’t see it. I’ll admit I’ve never seen him play for Preston but have memories of him flapping at every high ball for Wrexham in the Conference, I’d cringe at every corner we concede. |
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 11, 2018 22:53:58 GMT
Hennessey had a 9/10 performance against Denmark, made no more than 1-2 mistakes in our 10 world cup qualifiers, and had a very good qualifying campaign for the euros. He also has well over a 100 appearances in the premier league. Meanwhile his competitors have no more than 2 premier league appearances between them. Laying blame at Hennessey is a complete red herring Good wc qualifiers? You joking. Go look at the statistics from those games and look at how many shots were on on target that he left in. Serbia 2 shots 2 goals conceded, Ireland one on target one conceded etc It can be hard being a keeper though. That awful pass for the goal against Ireland and it’s a negative against him. Ramsey messing about as the last man and another clean sheet gone. I think the Serbia goal was Chester being beaten by Mitrovic in the air, not much he can do with 6 yard header. Not saying he’s faultless but he’s in a difficult position. |
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 11, 2018 23:58:13 GMT
He's had to play well at Palace, club football is a cutthroat world and his competition in Guaita has played at a much better level than him. Wales is a different story though; he could fall asleep between the sticks, concede 10 and still start the next game. Introduce competition in the national side, make him fight for it. We'll all be better for it. No bro I would say the premier league is far superior to the spanish league. Yes agree competition is good maybe you need to tell that Ward instead of siting on the substitutes bench every week earning vast amounts of money, he should put career progression and being No 1 above greed. Club-for-club, Valencia shit over Palace sorry mate. Ward (like all of us on here) probably thought it'd be a decent move at the time when Chelsea were sniffing around Schmeicael, I mean it's pretty obvious he wasn't going to have a career at Liverpool when Alisson, Karius and Mignolet were all ahead of him at various points. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 12, 2018 1:03:41 GMT
Hennessey had a 9/10 performance against Denmark, made no more than 1-2 mistakes in our 10 world cup qualifiers, and had a very good qualifying campaign for the euros. He also has well over a 100 appearances in the premier league. Meanwhile his competitors have no more than 2 premier league appearances between them. Laying blame at Hennessey is a complete red herring Good wc qualifiers? You joking. Go look at the statistics from those games and look at how many shots were on on target that he left in. Serbia 2 shots 2 goals conceded, Ireland one on target one conceded etc Lol, imagine thinking any keeper in the world could stop any of those goals against Serbia from going in. The first one in the home tie came from a perfectly placed header that clipped the post and went in before Hennessey could get a hand to it and the other in the away tie resulted from appalling defending that left Hennessey stranded. By the way, Serbia had 5 shots on target against us in those games. |
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Post by alarch on Oct 12, 2018 9:29:44 GMT
The truth lies somewhere in the middle with Hennessey. Having watched the game again I can't really fault Hennessey for the first goal. He needed to punch and he got a reasonable distance. He should have got the free-kick for being bundled over, but the fault after that lay with the lack of closing down from Gunter and Ampadu (and Gunter turning his back on the shot). He was more at fault for the second goal. He planted his feet rendering him immobile. Had he set himself more dynamically he could potentially have saved Ramos's effort - as it was he just waved it into the corner of the net.
The main reason for replacing Hennessey long-term would be for his poor distribution rather than anything else. He's a good enough shot-stopper and commands his area - but for a team with the ambition of retaining possession we need someone more accomplished on the ball. Ward deserves to be given a chance against Albania - but he needs to prove he's as good as Hennessey in all aspects.
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Post by welshiron on Oct 12, 2018 9:33:13 GMT
What has ward done to deserve a chance?
That being said our no. 2 keeper needs some experience and I think he will play in Albania.
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Post by welshdon on Oct 12, 2018 13:03:47 GMT
It's a culmination of mistakes over a long period of time. I could list dozens of times from the past few qualifying campaigns where his shit positioning and lack of effort have led to goals at crucial moments. We need a shake-up between the sticks and giving Wayne a reminder he's not untouchable would ultimately make us and Wayne much stronger I feel, because unlike Myhill he doesn't seem like a cry-arse bottler. I’d quite like to see Ward get a run out against Albania too. Maxwell though I just don’t see it. I’ll admit I’ve never seen him play for Preston but have memories of him flapping at every high ball for Wrexham in the Conference, I’d cringe at every corner we concede. Your memories of Maxwell at Wrexham in my opinion are rather flawed. He played at Wrexham over a 4 year period beginning as an 18 year old. He is not the biggest so god only knows what he had to put up with as a skinny kid playing against men. Let's not forget during this same period almost every premiership player were still playing against other kids. I see he has now played 360 times (wiki) and has battled his way from the conference to the championship. Can't help thinking politics has become his biggest battle. How Giggs can justify dragging him to China then to USA not give him a single minute is an insight to how things are in the wales camp. |
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 12, 2018 18:26:18 GMT
I’d quite like to see Ward get a run out against Albania too. Maxwell though I just don’t see it. I’ll admit I’ve never seen him play for Preston but have memories of him flapping at every high ball for Wrexham in the Conference, I’d cringe at every corner we concede. Your memories of Maxwell at Wrexham in my opinion are rather flawed. He played at Wrexham over a 4 year period beginning as an 18 year old. He is not the biggest so god only knows what he had to put up with as a skinny kid playing against men. Let's not forget during this same period almost every premiership player were still playing against other kids. I see he has now played 360 times (wiki) and has battled his way from the conference to the championship. Can't help thinking politics has become his biggest battle. How Giggs can justify dragging him to China then to USA not give him a single minute is an insight to how things are in the wales camp. Yeah I don’t doubt he’s grown and improved massively to get where he is with Preston. I think he’s the best keeper Wrexham have had in probably 20 years. I just personally wouldn’t be able to enjoy a single Wales game with him in goal, I’ve got the idea that he’s weak with high balls into the box engrained into me. It’s probably harsh of me to judge him as a 16/17/18 year old lad but I just can’t help it. I hope he does get a chance but as I said I’ll cringe at the thought of a cross or a corner. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 12, 2018 18:46:05 GMT
Don't think you can apportion too much blame to Hennessy last night behind that disorganised rabble. Even Buffon would have struggled.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 12, 2018 18:57:55 GMT
That Bale lad was thin as a rake, hard to imagine he's amounted to something.
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 12, 2018 19:56:08 GMT
That Bale lad was thin as a rake, hard to imagine he's amounted to something. Is that the guy who played for Spurs and Real Madrid? I don’t think I’ve seen Maxwell catch a cross which is my entire point. If he’s improved awesome, won’t inspire me with confidence though. Rather we focussed our efforts on getting Ward ready. |
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Post by iot on Oct 13, 2018 8:41:34 GMT
Maxwell has been in and out of the Preston side and I haven't heard any non-welsh people making any noise about his performances. I haven't seen any rumours of higher level clubs looking at him. That all says to me he isn't that good and is therefore rightly far behind hennessey and ward in the pecking order. You could make a case for him to be there ahead of Davies - but that's going back into a bradshaw v church type debate (disclaimer - it won't make a difference!).
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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 13, 2018 10:24:41 GMT
Got to be Hennessy as first choice until someone raises their hand as an alternative. There is no one at present to really challenge him as they are either not good enough, or as in Danny Ward's case, happy to sit on the bench and take home PL salary. He joined the wrong club and won't get many games until/unless Schmeichel is transferred or injured.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 15, 2018 15:13:53 GMT
No Wayne today. Is he suspended?
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Dec 15, 2018 18:03:00 GMT
No Wayne today. Is he suspended? Apparently out injured bro. |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Dec 15, 2018 23:37:52 GMT
No Wayne today. Is he suspended? Apparently out injured bro. Back injury according to 5live reporter. |
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Post by richierich333 on Dec 17, 2018 7:48:06 GMT
Holmesdale what's this keeper like? Any threat to Wayne?
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Dec 17, 2018 8:49:22 GMT
Holmesdale what's this keeper like? Any threat to Wayne? Supposed to be good bro. Made a good save the other day. Competition is good though they have to up the game. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 5, 2019 17:25:04 GMT
Starts today in the cup.
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Post by larslagerback on Jan 7, 2019 0:42:20 GMT
Interesting photo doing the rounds.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jan 7, 2019 2:00:08 GMT
Interesting photo doing the rounds. ? Edit: ok seen it in the Daily Fail. This could be interesting. Daily Fail doesn't seem to like Welsh fooballers  Who is next? |
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Post by cadno on Jan 7, 2019 9:33:03 GMT
You have to put up with a lot of rubbish being a footballer, the press are always out to get you.
I've seen photos before that look like someone's doing the sieg heil, but it could just be bad timing lol.
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 7, 2019 9:51:08 GMT
Interesting photo doing the rounds. ? Edit: ok seen it in the Daily Fail. This could be interesting. Daily Fail doesn't seem to like Welsh fooballers Who is next? Yes that's it, the Daily Mail has an agenda against Welsh footballers. English footballers too, and Irish and Scottish ones. Or, they're just reporting on a footballer photographed being a fucking idiot. |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jan 7, 2019 10:36:27 GMT
? Edit: ok seen it in the Daily Fail. This could be interesting. Daily Fail doesn't seem to like Welsh fooballers Who is next? Yes that's it, the Daily Mail has an agenda against Welsh footballers. English footballers too, and Irish and Scottish ones. Or, they're just reporting on a footballer photographed being a fucking idiot. Agree, its pretty clear what he was doing, he should have come out an apologised, not try to make up some silly story about waving to the camera. Doesn't look good. |
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Post by georgeberrysheadband on Jan 7, 2019 10:36:35 GMT
His excuse on twitter isn't the best - would have preferred him to say he had been stupid. Having said that, it's done, He would not have thought of the bigger picture at that split second so let's move on
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 7, 2019 10:58:41 GMT
Let's be honest; We'd slaughter an English player over this, why does Wayne get to move on so easily?
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