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Post by stu on Oct 27, 2011 10:03:09 GMT
I don't think you are mental. There are a few factors which might see him not realise his potential amount of caps.
1. Top clubs want to see a reduction of international games.
2. The emergence of a better keeper.
3. Failure to qualify for a tournament.
4. Early retirement, less likely for GKs.
To be honest do we really want Hennesey to still be our number 1 when he's in mid to late 30s? What I mean by that is that I think it would be a poor inditement of Welsh football if none of the Welsh teenagers or even those younger cant go on to become better than him in the next 10-15 years as that's probably what he'd need to reach 150.
If he's our best GK then let him play until he's 50 if he wants to, but as soon as someone emerges to be his natural successor then they deserve some time in goal too.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 27, 2011 10:06:47 GMT
Class goalie in my opinion and will get better so yes he is capable of 100 caps or more
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Post by matty on Oct 27, 2011 10:59:17 GMT
He has got to take Southall's record, although I said that when Lewis Price got started! I'd like to see Myhill given 90mins against Norway though. He travels home and away knowing he will be warming a bench - barring any injury to Hennessey of course. It would be good to see him given a full game.
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Post by stu on Oct 27, 2011 13:32:52 GMT
^^^ Agree with that. We don't want a situation like the inglish have got where beyond their #1 there isn't anyone else as they keep quitting internationals because they don't want to warm the bench. Although in their case every keeper they have got to warm the bench has been slagged off by their media.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 16:56:56 GMT
I find it interesting that there are Wolves fans who still dont seem to rate him, his lack of a commanding presence was brought up after the Swansea game.
So yeah agree with the above- if he is not to become a top keeper for a top 4 side (not saying he wont, but is it likely that he will?) then we should still be looking for someone who will. David Cornell has been talked of highly, will probably have to move from Swansea to progress though.
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 27, 2011 20:40:02 GMT
He's often compared to Edwin Van Der Saar- who won 130 caps for Holland. If we start qualifying for tournaments Hennessey can win a similar number. The race to be first Welsh player to 100 caps is on! Hennessey and Ledley(both 24) are in the lead at the moment but Gunter and Bale (both 22 with around 32 caps each) are right behind them.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 27, 2011 21:13:32 GMT
He's often compared to Edwin Van Der Saar- who won 130 caps for Holland. If we start qualifying for tournaments Hennessey can win a similar number. The race to be first Welsh player to 100 caps is on! Hennessey and Ledley(both 24) are in the lead at the moment but Gunter and Bale (both 22 with around 32 caps each) are right behind them. Let the competition begin.  Some of these youngsters have the world at their feet. They and their peers need to realise it. It is there for the taking and will spur other welsh youngsters on. It they do it for 2014 or 2016 hopefully it will not be another 2+ generations before Wales appears at a major tournament. |
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 27, 2011 21:26:59 GMT
Some of these youngsters have the world at their feet. They and their peers need to realise it. It is there for the taking and will spur other welsh youngsters on. It they do it for 2014 or 2016 hopefully it will not be another 2+ generations before Wales appears at a major tournament.
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Post by saints19 on Oct 27, 2011 22:46:32 GMT
In my view the only world class youngster we have is Bale. In fact the other countries in our group have a lot of talented kids in their squads too, Belgium have a bucketload of gems including Lukaku and Hazard. Serbia have lost Vidic but will probably replace him with Kolarov who is not too shabby.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 28, 2011 0:03:24 GMT
Bale is better than hazard, they dont have a better midfielder than ramsey and lukaku ok he is being talked about highly but he has done nothing at all!!! Kolarov is a left back and very suspect at defending
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 28, 2011 0:10:14 GMT
ffs saints! Ramsey is a better player than Hazard- he plays in a bigger, better league for a bigger, better club. And he has a better international record- 5 goals in 19 games. Hazard has 1 in 24. People are wanking themselves stupid over a Belgian team that has achieved very, very little. They only won 4 of their 10 recent qualifiers, they only took a point from two games against Turkey (who were beaten by Azerbaijan) and they drew 4-4 a home to Austria. Any team that concedes 4 goals at home to this Austria side has problems at the back. Yes, they have talented young players, but as I keep saying (and nobody seems to get it...) SO DO WE!!!!
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 28, 2011 0:57:45 GMT
ffs saints! Ramsey is a better player than Hazard- he plays in a bigger, better league for a bigger, better club. And he has a better international record- 5 goals in 19 games. Hazard has 1 in 24. People are wanking themselves stupid over a Belgian team that has achieved very, very little. They only won 4 of their 10 recent qualifiers, they only took a point from two games against Turkey (who were beaten by Azerbaijan) and they drew 4-4 a home to Austria. Any team that concedes 4 goals at home to this Austria side has problems at the back. Yes, they have talented young players, but as I keep saying (and nobody seems to get it...) SO DO WE!!!! Spot on!!! |
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Post by rushlegend on Oct 28, 2011 9:48:29 GMT
Bale is better than hazard, they dont have a better midfielder than ramsey and lukaku ok he is being talked about highly but he has done nothing at all!!! Kolarov is a left back and very suspect at defending
Agree Baxterboi, Don't think Belgium have any better players than we have, Kompany is a tidy defender but Hazard is yet to produce, if Lukalu was that good he should be challenging for a regular place at Chelski but isn't. And both Serbia & Croatia aren't the powerhouses they once were. Watch Turkey knock Croatia out of the play-offs next month.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 13:05:08 GMT
based on the game against Man City:
150 on first half performance; and
a couple more if he is lucky based on 2nd half.
It was a shame for Wayne that he gifted the win after playing so well in the opening 45 mins - but this is where EPL experience should stand our players in good stead....provided MM doesn't drop him.
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 31, 2011 13:13:37 GMT
Myhill seems to having a good season for Birmingham, so its not just at club level that Hennessey has competition for his place. If he can deal with that pressure he'll be a better player for it though. 24 is young to be a goalie in the EPL. And nobody is mentioning that boy wonder Joe Hart fucked up for the Wolves goal too...
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Post by saints19 on Nov 1, 2011 5:47:52 GMT
ffs saints! Ramsey is a better player than Hazard- he plays in a bigger, better league for a bigger, better club. And he has a better international record- 5 goals in 19 games. Hazard has 1 in 24. People are wanking themselves stupid over a Belgian team that has achieved very, very little. They only won 4 of their 10 recent qualifiers, they only took a point from two games against Turkey (who were beaten by Azerbaijan) and they drew 4-4 a home to Austria. Any team that concedes 4 goals at home to this Austria side has problems at the back. Yes, they have talented young players, but as I keep saying (and nobody seems to get it...) SO DO WE!!!! It's irrelevant the status of the clubs they play for/ leagues they play in. Whether Arsenal are better than Lille or the Premiership better than the Championnat matters not a jot when discussing individuals. Hazard has been linked with £20m+ moves away from Lille, OK the latest rumour has Ramsey going to Inter for a similar sum but we write the Belgians and the Croatians (and the Serbians and the Scots) off at our peril. People are getting excited about the next qualifiers - as we right to be - but we have to remember that we are playing against good opposition. I suppose the counter to your points about Belgium would be that we lost in Montenegro, 4-1 away to Switzerland and against possibly the worst Bulgarian side ever. It's still a tough ask. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 13:38:59 GMT
I am sure the Belgians, Croats and Serbs are all saying equally patronising things about us.
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Post by Tim P on Nov 1, 2011 14:28:19 GMT
I am sure the Belgians, Croats and Serbs are all saying equally patronising things about us. That's the beauty of the group. The lack of an elite level team means that we all think we can beat each other. Regarding Hazard: highly rated he may be, but I'd take Lukaku over him to play for us. If Football Manager is right (and in all seriousness, it often is), this guy truly is 'the new Drogba'. |
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 1, 2011 22:39:00 GMT
RD- at what point did I say anything patronising about any of the other teams in the group? And saints- at what point did I write any of the other teams in our group off? I get pissed off with people who are so quick to talk up opposition teams/player and talk down our own (over-rated, unproven etc) that I was simply trying to redress the balance.
Every team in the group will think themselves capable of beating any other. And that should include us. It's set up to be a cracker.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Dec 4, 2011 19:31:26 GMT
Partly at fault for the goal, rush of blood coming well out of the penalty area, but the easy penalty save was the turning point. He should at least be credited with an assist on the first goal.
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Post by flynnfan on Dec 4, 2011 23:30:57 GMT
Hennesseys save and quick kick to set up the attack for the equaliser was the turning point of the game. I've seen him save a few penalties- I'd imagine him doing well in a shoot out if we ever get to the knockout stages of a tournament!
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Post by welshwizard79 on Dec 5, 2011 16:30:08 GMT
Hennesseys save and quick kick to set up the attack for the equaliser was the turning point of the game. I've seen him save a few penalties- I'd imagine him doing well in a shoot out if we ever get to the knockout stages of a tournament! Just getting to the tournement would be nice  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 15:42:21 GMT
Was superb against Arsenal!
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Post by gareth on Dec 28, 2011 18:39:38 GMT
Kept wolves in the game. Could've been a 3/4 goal difference. Surely bigger clubs r noticing now?!
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Post by Tim P on Dec 29, 2011 13:38:06 GMT
I don't think big clubs will notice until he cuts out the pretty regular mistakes.
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Post by flynnfan on Dec 29, 2011 14:06:03 GMT
His concentration and distribution both need to improve before the big boys come sniffing. He's still very young in goalkeeping terms though. He might have another 15 years as a pro in him, so there's time for him to move on up. If Reina goes at some point (very possible) maybe Liverpool will have a look? He fits in to their transfer policy of buying young(ish) British players who might have resale value. Joe Hart is possibly the only British keeper better than him at the moment.
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Post by Tim P on Dec 29, 2011 14:54:05 GMT
That's the worry for me - if he struggles with concentration at Wolves where he is usually very much in the thick of things, then he has absolutely no chance of succeeding at a serious Project. That said, he's young enough to work on this and improve.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 15:41:17 GMT
That's the worry for me - if he struggles with concentration at Wolves where he is usually very much in the thick of things, then he has absolutely no chance of succeeding at a serious Project. That said, he's young enough to work on this and improve. Agreed. He knows he's got serious competition from Myhill currently with Boaz having a good season with Birmingham. |
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Post by bale-droed on Dec 29, 2011 16:19:15 GMT
surely ferguson has thought to himself "he is so much better than de gea"
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Post by Tim P on Dec 29, 2011 18:27:56 GMT
surely ferguson has thought to himself "he is so much better than de gea" I doubt it somehow. |
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