Hennessey

[mrpicton79]

Interesting fans blog about the Palace goalkeeping situation www.fiveyearplanfanzine.co.uk/news/6379-julian-speroni-alex-mccarthy.html they definitely seem to rate Hennessey, shame Pardew doesn't concur.

[gwelfryn04]

I guess pardew is sticking with the keeper he brought to the club. Not looking good for Hennessy now tho, don't care where he goes as long as he's 1st choice and plays games, we need him fit and ready to go

[cymruramdcfc]

has there been any offers or an interest in him at all from another club, we all would like him in prem or even playing regular at palace but that's not happening, so a drop down in a league to get regular game time.

[ysbryd]

Don't think the situation with a keeper is as bad as painted. Most of the comments regarding playing time are true for those playing. Henenessey has looked sharp for Wales and the likes of Pedr Chec now of Arsenal was not playing all last year.
Ironically I think one of the reasons Palace still retain Wayne is they sense someone will come in big and don't want to lose out.

[walesdad]

Surely yesterday proved that the Wales no.1 is wasting his time at Palace?He's twenty eight,which isn't ancient for a keeper,but for his career and for Wales he needs to be playing.

[squatter1]

Wales' No1 is Crystal Palace's No3. It's pretty desperate.

The question unfortunately is: do any premiership managers think Hennesey is good enough to be a top level No1?

[cymruramdcfc]

Aug 9, 2015 12:59:48 GMT squatter1 said:

Wales' No1 is Crystal Palace's No3. It's pretty desperate.

The question unfortunately is: do any premiership managers think Hennesey is good enough to be a top level No1?

Obviously not. Needs a move simple as that, better off dropping down a league and play regular.

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Aug 9, 2015 12:33:23 GMT walesdad said:

Surely yesterday proved that the Wales no.1 is wasting his time at Palace?He's twenty eight,which isn't ancient for a keeper,but for his career and for Wales he needs to be playing.

The guy is turning into a waster. Perhaps hes been getting career advice from Jason Brown and Pricey?

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Aug 9, 2015 12:59:48 GMT squatter1 said:

Wales' No1 is Crystal Palace's No3. It's pretty desperate.

The question unfortunately is: do any premiership managers think Hennesey is good enough to be a top level No1?

I'm sure there are plenty in the Championship.

The brutal truth is that Hennessey could agitate for a move and easily play number 1 in the Championship, but does he want to? He has spent so much time sitting on the sidelines either through injury or poor career choices, after starting this season at Palace I really now have to question what his ambitions are in football.

Perhaps Coleman picking Ward in a game or two would be the wake up call he needs? The reality is that Hennessey knows he is under no threat of losing his place in the Wales team for the Euros whether he moves or not. Hes on easy street in every possible respect.

[sleepy]

Aug 9, 2015 14:21:29 GMT @storm said:

Aug 9, 2015 12:59:48 GMT squatter1 said:

Wales' No1 is Crystal Palace's No3. It's pretty desperate.

The question unfortunately is: do any premiership managers think Hennesey is good enough to be a top level No1?

I'm sure there are plenty in the Championship.

The brutal truth is that Hennessey could agitate for a move and easily play number 1 in the Championship, but does he want to? He has spent so much time sitting on the sidelines either through injury or poor career choices, after starting this season at Palace I really now have to question what his ambitions are in football.

Perhaps Coleman picking Ward in a game or two would be the wake up call he needs? The reality is that Hennessey knows he is under no threat of losing his place in the Wales team for the Euros whether he moves or not. Hes on easy street in every possible respect.

Spot on needs a kick up the arse.

[cymruramdcfc]

Aug 9, 2015 15:04:04 GMT sleepy said:

Aug 9, 2015 14:21:29 GMT @storm said:

I'm sure there are plenty in the Championship.

The brutal truth is that Hennessey could agitate for a move and easily play number 1 in the Championship, but does he want to? He has spent so much time sitting on the sidelines either through injury or poor career choices, after starting this season at Palace I really now have to question what his ambitions are in football.

Perhaps Coleman picking Ward in a game or two would be the wake up call he needs? The reality is that Hennessey knows he is under no threat of losing his place in the Wales team for the Euros whether he moves or not. Hes on easy street in every possible respect.

Spot on needs a kick up the arse.

Never looked at it that way, he does seem to settle for second best, he should say fuck this and push for a move ,

[Tim P]

Once Speroni is fit, he goes.

[Bass Drum Barry]

But where?

[ae15]

Aug 10, 2015 10:31:46 GMT Bass Drum Barry said:

But where?

True. If anyone really wanted him there would have been an approach by now because he's third choice and seemingly surplus to requirements.

[matty]

I know its very early days into a long season but if Danny Ward is playing well for Aberdeen and Hennessey isn't playing, Ward could end up Wales' first choice next summer.

[erasedcitizen]

Especially if Mignolet picks up a knock and Liverpool see Ward as the next best option. Can they recall him?

[alarch]

Am I the only one unconcerned about Hennessey's situation? He hardly played any football last season, and yet performed admirably in all games. Even the missed punch that led to the Cyprus goal was down to a well-timed barge from a Cypriot forward. Of course it's not ideal that he's not playing regularly, but match fitness isn't an issue as it is with a non-playing outfield player.

The way I see it Hennessey is currently only number two because Palace know he's leaving, or he's unsettled. After McCarthy's unimpressive showing at Norwich it will be interesting to see if he's given a chance to play regardless. If nothing else it could help Palace get a few more quid for him. A lot depends on Hennessey's professionalism and his attitude. In that regard he has a bit of previous with Wolves. It may be a bit lazy to blame Palace, when for all we know Hennessey may have made it very difficult for him to be selected with some ill-chosen words.

[phillygaz]

Should remember we make our comments about dropping to Championship to be first choice with our Wales hats on. For Hennessey a move to a Championship club presumably means a big wage cut for someone who (is well paid obviously) but has less than ten years of earning from playing football left. Less if he gets injured. That must be in his head however much we would like him to focus on what's good for the Welsh side.

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Aug 10, 2015 11:58:47 GMT phillygaz said:

Should remember we make our comments about dropping to Championship to be first choice with our Wales hats on. For Hennessey a move to a Championship club presumably means a big wage cut for someone who (is well paid obviously) but has less than ten years of earning from playing football left. Less if he gets injured. That must be in his head however much we would like him to focus on what's good for the Welsh side.

That raises the question of what is the point of a footballer? To play football, or just pick up a wage?

To me, starting another season at Palace actually shows a certain lack of respect to the Wales shirt. We are all but qualified for the finals of a tournament for the first time since practically forever and all our players should be looking for first team football to be as prepared as possible. Our first choice keeper meanwhile is sat on his thumbs collecting a wage for doing nothing. Its not good enough imo.

If Wayne actually wants to pursue this path then good luck to him but I would hope that we are evaluating our options ourselves on that front. Coleman has his favourites unfortunately and so I can't see Ward having any realistic opportunity to stake a claim. Its in the bag for Hennessey and he must know that.

As for how important he is, well he is a steady presence but he hasn't really done anything you wouldnt expect a keeper playing at championship standard to deal with. Our defence have suffocated the life out of our opponents. We will see when we eventually play a team that really makes our defence work how useful a keeper short of match fitness is. I will be very annoyed if our progress at the finals is hampered by sloppy goalkeeping because it will have been entirely preventable

[jbt95]

Are people really saying to put in Ward? ffs!

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Aug 10, 2015 12:35:54 GMT jbt95 said:

Are people really saying to put in Ward? ffs!

I dont think anyone is saying to put him in tomorrow, however he appears to be winning games for Aberdeen single handedly judging by reports. He sounds capable enough to be tried out in friendlies- do we have the opportunity to bed in a new keeper between now and the finals though? Probably not and its frustrating because Wayne surely knows this.

What do we want at the finals? A rookie keeper playing well and regularly? Or an experienced 3rd choice at a premiership club whose only action has been in an ill fated carling cup run?

Id be leaning towards the former, personally.

[jbt95]

Aug 10, 2015 13:03:33 GMT @storm said:

Aug 10, 2015 12:35:54 GMT jbt95 said:

Are people really saying to put in Ward? ffs!

I dont think anyone is saying to put him in tomorrow, however he appears to be winning games for Aberdeen single handedly judging by reports. He sounds capable enough to be tried out in friendlies- do we have the opportunity to bed in a new keeper between now and the finals though? Probably not and its frustrating because Wayne surely knows this.

What do we want at the finals? A rookie keeper playing well and regularly? Or an experienced 3rd choice at a premiership club whose only action has been in an ill fated carling cup run?

Id be leaning towards the former, personally.

So you mean leave out the guy who was in the same situation for the first six qualifiers where we haven't conceded a single goal from open play in over 550 minutes.

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Aug 10, 2015 13:36:02 GMT jbt95 said:

Aug 10, 2015 13:03:33 GMT @storm said:

I dont think anyone is saying to put him in tomorrow, however he appears to be winning games for Aberdeen single handedly judging by reports. He sounds capable enough to be tried out in friendlies- do we have the opportunity to bed in a new keeper between now and the finals though? Probably not and its frustrating because Wayne surely knows this.

What do we want at the finals? A rookie keeper playing well and regularly? Or an experienced 3rd choice at a premiership club whose only action has been in an ill fated carling cup run?

Id be leaning towards the former, personally.

So you mean leave out the guy who was in the same situation for the first six qualifiers where we haven't conceded a single goal from open play in over 550 minutes.

Wayne has hardly put in MOTM performances in that time- the defence is doing the bulk of the work. When he is called upon at the finals, will he be mentally and physically sharp enough to win us games? Thats the issue.

[jbt95]

Aug 10, 2015 14:20:21 GMT @storm said:

Aug 10, 2015 13:36:02 GMT jbt95 said:

So you mean leave out the guy who was in the same situation for the first six qualifiers where we haven't conceded a single goal from open play in over 550 minutes.

Wayne has hardly put in MOTM performances in that time- the defence is doing the bulk of the work. When he is called upon at the finals, will he be mentally and physically sharp enough to win us games? Thats the issue.

See Bosnia home for MOTM performance. He won us a point that night. Has done well when called upon in both Belgium games too. I can't see the difference between these games and the finals.

[biwmares]

Chris Maxwell the goalkeeper from Fleetwood should be given the opportunity before someone playing in them Scottish leagues.

[Bass Drum Barry]

In my opinion, Wayne is delivering consistently for Wales, which is excellent. I think it's weird that he hasn't broken through to regular first team football at a decent club level and wonder what the reasons might be. I'd be surprised if he was happy to just 'pick up a wage' for his career, and only assume that, like many understudy keepers, he genuinely believes he is good enough to take the number one shirt at his club, and will do so.

I just hope does it soon at Palace or moves to a Premier League or Championship club where he will be number one. It can only be of benefit to him and Wales if he's playing regularly at club level.

[nick75]

Aug 10, 2015 16:01:46 GMT Bass Drum Barry said:

In my opinion, Wayne is delivering consistently for Wales, which is excellent. I think it's weird that he hasn't broken through to regular first team football at a decent club level and wonder what the reasons might be. I'd be surprised if he was happy to just 'pick up a wage' for his career, and only assume that, like many understudy keepers, he genuinely believes he is good enough to take the number one shirt at his club, and will do so.

I just hope does it soon at Palace or moves to a Premier League or Championship club where he will be number one. It can only be of benefit to him and Wales if he's playing regularly at club level.

Completely agree - Hennessey's been superb this campaign. Imagine if he hadn't played so well v Bosnia, for example - we'd only be 3 points ahead of Bosnia now if we'd lost that match. Wayne's been a significant part of a colossal defensive effort by the whole team.

I'd like to see him play more at Palace but we can't expect him to jump ship the moment he falls down the pecking order - surely THAT would be a worse statement of a lack of ambition. However, he may want to move on if his position is the same come the January deadline.

[quetzal]

I've watched replays on all the Welsh games on the football orgin site and Wayne Hennessey as been our 3rd most influential player behind Bale and Ashley Williams

[alarch]

As jbt95 and nick75 allude to, Wayne pulled off two magnificent saves in the Bosnia match. The first was a point blank block with his knee. The second prevented the ball from nestling in the top corner from a Pjanic free-kick. His save low down in the latest Belgium match was also top drawer. Other than kicking long excessively in my opinion (probably under instruction) there's been little to fault in his performances. Talking of dropping him doesn't make any sense at all, although I'm all for trying out alternatives in all positions once we've qualified.

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Aug 10, 2015 16:23:52 GMT nick75 said:

Aug 10, 2015 16:01:46 GMT Bass Drum Barry said:

In my opinion, Wayne is delivering consistently for Wales, which is excellent. I think it's weird that he hasn't broken through to regular first team football at a decent club level and wonder what the reasons might be. I'd be surprised if he was happy to just 'pick up a wage' for his career, and only assume that, like many understudy keepers, he genuinely believes he is good enough to take the number one shirt at his club, and will do so.

I just hope does it soon at Palace or moves to a Premier League or Championship club where he will be number one. It can only be of benefit to him and Wales if he's playing regularly at club level.

Completely agree - Hennessey's been superb this campaign. Imagine if he hadn't played so well v Bosnia, for example - we'd only be 3 points ahead of Bosnia now if we'd lost that match. Wayne's been a significant part of a colossal defensive effort by the whole team.

I'd like to see him play more at Palace but we can't expect him to jump ship the moment he falls down the pecking order - surely THAT would be a worse statement of a lack of ambition. However, he may want to move on if his position is the same come the January deadline.

Its hard to see it that way, dropping a league for first team football shows that hes committed to put himself out there to work his way back up. The easiest thing to do is to do nothing (as he appears to be doing) because he is getting paid for it.

Its also hard to make a case for him fighting for his place because he is being given very little (public) encouragement that there is a place to be won. If he has the manager's backing in private then I would love to know what sweet nothings Pardew is whispering in his ear because, based on his actions of bringing in another keeper and then playing him when the No.1 is injured, Pardew does not seem to rate Wayne.