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Post by rncfc on Nov 20, 2017 15:31:50 GMT
Is playing Forest Green and Lincolm more attractive than Barry and Carmarthen?!  Lol, good one. Newport would not challenge for the title in the Welsh League at all, because I don't think we would even reform if the English league was no longer an option. I certainly wouldn't support it after what we were put through in the 90's and I doubt you'd find many who would. I don't dispute that there are advantages to the Welsh system for the clubs who compete in it. I can appreciate that it is hugely attractive for small towns in mid-Wales to compete for prize money of a few hundred thousand pounds and have a few games in Europe - potentially even against some decent sides if the draw falls nicely. But that will never be attractive to Newport, Wrexham, Swansea or Cardiff. Getting relegated to the Conference is worth more money to Newport than winning the WPL would be due to the parachute payments. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, because I will never change my mind. I'd probably stomach it long term if all Welsh clubs were forced in, but not under any other circumstances. I totally agree with you that the WPL isn't attractive for Newport as they are in the Football League and I don't think clubs should be forced to join, but I think once a Welsh club falls out of the top 6 leagues in England it becomes a viable alternative It becomes a viable alternative if there is no route back up the leagues. The trouble with moving over is you will reach the ceiling very quickly if it's taken seriously. I couldn't imagine not having the excitement of play-off pushes, promotion chases, relegation scraps, FA cup runs. Take those things away and club football would be dead to me. We play Cambridge at home on Dec 3rd in the FA Cup 2nd round. If we manage to win the cup draw the next day is hugely exciting. If you're the biggest club in the league the cup draw is probably shit. I can't imagine I would care less if we were drawn away to Caersws or home to Aberystwyth - I wouldn't go either way. |
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Post by welshiron on Nov 20, 2017 15:42:12 GMT
THis isn't about |Newport it's about Mertyhyr.
A team that average about 400 and has expenditure they cannot afford to pay
A game between Merthyr and Barry or Bangor for example would draw more than this, or maybe the rivalry with teams like Chesham is more intense than I thought.
If they go bust again I can see the following 2 things happening
- The English FA refuse any further application for another new team so you will have to come begging to the FAW or
- You no longer exist and the rugby club take on the ground
Maybe it's time for them to change their views
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 20, 2017 16:14:26 GMT
I totally agree with you that the WPL isn't attractive for Newport as they are in the Football League and I don't think clubs should be forced to join, but I think once a Welsh club falls out of the top 6 leagues in England it becomes a viable alternative It becomes a viable alternative if there is no route back up the leagues. The trouble with moving over is you will reach the ceiling very quickly if it's taken seriously. I couldn't imagine not having the excitement of play-off pushes, promotion chases, relegation scraps, FA cup runs. Take those things away and club football would be dead to me. We play Cambridge at home on Dec 3rd in the FA Cup 2nd round. If we manage to win the cup draw the next day is hugely exciting. If you're the biggest club in the league the cup draw is probably shit. I can't imagine I would care less if we were drawn away to Caersws or home to Aberystwyth - I wouldn't go either way. Like I said I completely agree regarding Newport, however Merthyr are a different case |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 20, 2017 16:17:38 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Nov 20, 2017 16:33:23 GMT
Anyone fancy making a donation to my tax bill?
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Post by Benji on Nov 21, 2017 18:49:55 GMT
I’m a Merthyr fan, season ticket holder and member. I would be quite happy for us to be in the Welsh Premier League.
It’s also worth pointing out my views expressed above are a minority view within the club.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 22, 2017 5:29:42 GMT
Anyone fancy making a donation to my tax bill? 😁 I hear you. But really needs to be run to it's limits if it can't keep afloat within the English structure then if they want a club in Merthyr the wpl may be the answer. |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Nov 22, 2017 6:38:31 GMT
It seems as though Merthyr are living up to the name of one of their previous chairmen again, Owen Money.
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Post by garynysmon on Nov 23, 2017 17:02:16 GMT
Far be it for me to criticise any supporters highlighting their club's plight.
But I do feel it says a lot about the psyche of many Welsh football supporters how much attention is being given to Merthyr's current situation, compared to both Bangor City and Prestatyn who had similar issues not too long ago.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 23, 2017 18:04:58 GMT
Far be it for me to criticise any supporters highlighting their club's plight. But I do feel it says a lot about the psyche of many Welsh football supporters how much attention is being given to Merthyr's current situation, compared to both Bangor City and Prestatyn who had similar issues not too long ago. Shouted louder perhaps. FAW should help out the bangors and prestatyn before likes of clubs in English pyramid imoa. |
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Post by JC on Nov 23, 2017 18:08:20 GMT
Far be it for me to criticise any supporters highlighting their club's plight. But I do feel it says a lot about the psyche of many Welsh football supporters how much attention is being given to Merthyr's current situation, compared to both Bangor City and Prestatyn who had similar issues not too long ago. Shouted louder perhaps. FAW should help out the bangors and prestatyn before likes of clubs in English pyramid imoa.Has the FAW helped out Merthyr? Edit: Personally would prefer Merthyr to be in the WPL although I can see why some of the fan base are against it. |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 23, 2017 19:49:35 GMT
Shouted louder perhaps. FAW should help out the bangors and prestatyn before likes of clubs in English pyramid imoa.Has the FAW helped out Merthyr? Edit: Personally would prefer Merthyr to be in the WPL although I can see why some of the fan base are against it. Not as far as I know. What I was trying to point out that Bangor and prestatyn may be helped as they in wpl. I'm not trying to suggest MT go into Welsh league either |
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Post by worsy on Dec 25, 2017 20:33:34 GMT
Few of us going up to Merthyr to watch game tomorrow. Whats the best pub to drink in before and after the game?
Cheers
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Post by ontheroadagain on Dec 25, 2017 21:09:30 GMT
Try the Wyndham Arms for good beer. A Rhymney Brewery pub.
Otherwise you have the Wetherspoons, Y Dic Penderyn.
You could always go to Strikers Bar at the ground and put a bit more money into the club.
Edit: Don't forget your waterproofs as the rain is going to get worse as the afternoon goes on.
Edit: I meant to say the Winchester Arms.
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Post by Benji on Dec 25, 2017 22:38:58 GMT
The Winchester Arms, next to the Castle Hotel is a Rhymney pub, some great beer on tap in there.
Romans Bar in the ground is open to home fans tomorrow and also a couple of Can Bars around ground for drinks during the game.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Dec 25, 2017 23:29:03 GMT
The Winchester Arms, next to the Castle Hotel is a Rhymney pub, some great beer on tap in there. Romans Bar in the ground is open to home fans tomorrow and also a couple of Can Bars around ground for drinks during the game. Thank you for correcting me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 11:03:08 GMT
Tough match against Hereford too!
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Post by Benji on Dec 26, 2017 11:55:19 GMT
Yes we know know all about them. They’ve signed about 5 players off us
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 13:56:26 GMT
Gavin Williams might get a warm reception from the visiting fans... Not.
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Post by welshiron on Dec 27, 2017 15:37:48 GMT
Merthyr are a joke.
The fans are rtunning the club and tell us they have a debt of £25k, football world rallies around to help pay the bill.
We now find out they owe another £90k, do they expect that to be funded as well.
It's about time the club started to get their affairs in order and start spending what they can afford and all this from a club that thinks it's too good to play in the welsh system
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Post by foxmulder on Dec 27, 2017 15:45:23 GMT
Ooof! Shots fired!
TBH, it's usually the fans that are left in the dark when it comes to a club's finances. It took a court order to save my club and I wouldn't wish those dark days on any other football club.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Dec 27, 2017 19:12:41 GMT
I noticed the fundraising has riseing a few times,
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 27, 2017 21:51:03 GMT
Merthyr are a joke. The fans are rtunning the club and tell us they have a debt of £25k, football world rallies around to help pay the bill. We now find out they owe another £90k, do they expect that to be funded as well. It's about time the club started to get their affairs in order and start spending what they can afford and all this from a club that thinks it's too good to play in the welsh system You get this a lot from clubs everywhere "help we're on the brink of winding up if we don't pay this by next week" *still continue to pay players* The Prestatyn one I didn't get, asking for tax bill to be covered and dominated the league. Let's be honest their players must have been on a wedge, you can't fund a Welsh Premier promotion push on a good group of lads, they would have been paying the players a lot of money. If they weren't on a decent amount there would have been clubs up and down the Cymru Alliance crying out for them. There's a Welsh Premier club who are always doing online fundraisers or their academy teams can't do this or that, why not pay a first team player less then you could afford it. It's unfortunate for Merthyr and hope they sort it out but it's their problem to solve. I don't know the Merthyr situation but in general teams go to the brink with their finances and then rely on good will to save them. Build up a nest egg and live within your means. |
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Post by garynysmon on Dec 27, 2017 22:56:08 GMT
Merthyr are a joke. The fans are rtunning the club and tell us they have a debt of £25k, football world rallies around to help pay the bill. We now find out they owe another £90k, do they expect that to be funded as well. It's about time the club started to get their affairs in order and start spending what they can afford and all this from a club that thinks it's too good to play in the welsh system It's unfortunate for Merthyr and hope they sort it out but it's their problem to solve. I don't know the Merthyr situation but in general teams go to the brink with their finances and then rely on good will to save them. Build up a nest egg and live within your means. I'll give them that, they've done a good job of highlighting their plight and garnering a lot of publicity. I'm still cynical there would have been the same general furore if a Welsh Premier club were in the same situation though, as I feel there's a hint of double standards going on here sadly. |
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Post by joseywales37 on Dec 28, 2017 12:46:03 GMT
Want Merthyr to survive, maybe Welsh prem the way forward. Heard they had 13,000 at Caernarfon game the other day. Merthyr would certainly help Welsh prem get higher status.
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 28, 2017 14:40:58 GMT
Want Merthyr to survive, maybe Welsh prem the way forward. Heard they had 13,000 at Caernarfon game the other day. Merthyr would certainly help Welsh prem get higher status. 13,000?! |
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 28, 2017 14:42:44 GMT
What keeps Merthyr playing at the lower leagues in England? Is it the dream of an FA Cup run?
Surely doing well in the WPL and qualifying for Europe is more lucrative or am I being very naive?
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Post by Albert on Dec 28, 2017 14:49:09 GMT
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Post by saints19 on Dec 28, 2017 16:23:19 GMT
Want Merthyr to survive, maybe Welsh prem the way forward. Heard they had 13,000 at Caernarfon game the other day. Merthyr would certainly help Welsh prem get higher status. 13,000?! Must be a typo, 1300 maybe, unless the other 11,700 were painted onto the terraces. |
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 28, 2017 20:32:14 GMT
What keeps Merthyr playing at the lower leagues in England? Is it the dream of an FA Cup run? Surely doing well in the WPL and qualifying for Europe is more lucrative or am I being very naive? That's what I think. Travelling to Kings Lynn won't help their finances, if they were in the Welsh system they only play South Wales teams or have part of their travel expenses covered by the Welsh Prem. I like having a few Welsh teams in the English system but if they're struggling financially it makes no sense. Good luck to them though. Cut costs, bring through local lads and fly the flag for Wales. |
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Lol, good one.
