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Post by welshiron on Mar 9, 2020 8:33:13 GMT
In danger of missing out if he continues to be benched.
Gunter may get the not over him due to his versatility. The more I think about it the more I think neco must go.
Gunter or Roberts would be nowhere that Liverpool team
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Post by squatter1 on Mar 9, 2020 9:24:00 GMT
It’s a shame to see Roberts’ career falter. Plenty of time to turn it around.
If the Euros were tomorrow, I wouldn’t just be taking Neco, I would be starting him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 9:53:59 GMT
His career is hardly "faltering" he's started 24/37 league games. Played twice as much football as Gunter this season, and played 90 minutes more recently than Chris as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 10:12:40 GMT
Stats from whoscored:
Roberts - Championship Apps 24(6) (+ FA Cup 1, League Cup 1, Euro Qualifier 5) Mins 2839 G/A 0/2 - Last start 11th Feb (vs QPR)
Gunter - Championship Apps 13(0) (+ FA Cup 1) Mins 1197 G/A 0/0 - Last start 4th Feb (vs Cardiff FA Cup)
Matthews - Championship Apps 20(1) Mins 1801 G/A 0/0 - Last start 7th Mar (vs Boro)
Williams - PL Apps 0(0) (+ FA Cup 4, League Cup 1) Mins 450 G/A 0/1 - Last start 3rd Mar (vs Chelsea FA Cup)
Richards - Championship Apps 10(1) (+ FA Cup 2) Mins 1126 G/A 0/0 - Last start 22nd Feb (vs Stoke)
Imagine if we had this number of players getting this much football in every position.
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Post by welshiron on Mar 9, 2020 14:25:39 GMT
If none of them play much between now and end of season I would take Neco and Gunts.
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Post by TheWelshWay on Mar 9, 2020 17:44:53 GMT
If none of them play much between now and end of season I would take Neco and Gunts. Why create a issue in our starting defence where none exists? C.Robs is our current starter and he doesnt make your squad? Neco and Gunter are vying for the backup spot imo. |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 9, 2020 18:01:03 GMT
See your point but not a massive fan of Connor and he worries me defensively.
Think Gunter is better in that respect and can cover across the back 4 and has been there and done it.
Williams looks better going forward and could turn out to be a top player.
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Post by dai on Mar 10, 2020 17:56:14 GMT
Not sure if I agree that Gunter is more versatile. Where is the strong evidence in this?
As far as I recall he’s only played CB or as part of a back 3 a couple of times, which hardly classes as being versatile.
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 10, 2020 19:06:37 GMT
Not sure if I agree that Gunter is more versatile. Where is the strong evidence in this? As far as I recall he’s only played CB or as part of a back 3 a couple of times, which hardly classes as being versatile. |
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Post by gimli on Mar 10, 2020 19:36:54 GMT
Not sure if I agree that Gunter is more versatile. Where is the strong evidence in this? As far as I recall he’s only played CB or as part of a back 3 a couple of times, which hardly classes as being versatile. ? You seem to have a proper chip on your shoulder about Cardiff City. I've noticed you take (not so) subtle digs at them in a lot of your posts. What's that all about? We really don't need you stirring shit and fishing for reactions on here. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 10, 2020 19:52:43 GMT
Not sure if I agree that Gunter is more versatile. Where is the strong evidence in this? As far as I recall he’s only played CB or as part of a back 3 a couple of times, which hardly classes as being versatile. I'd only consider Gunter an option for RB or LB in a back 4. As you say has only played CB in a back 3 so can't play there for us the way we play now. That being said I think I'd happily take him as a backup LB. |
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 10, 2020 20:01:28 GMT
Not sure if I agree that Gunter is more versatile. Where is the strong evidence in this? As far as I recall he’s only played CB or as part of a back 3 a couple of times, which hardly classes as being versatile. I'd only consider Gunter an option for RB or LB in a back 4. As you say has only played CB in a back 3 so can't play there for us the way we play now. That being said I think I'd happily take him as a backup LB. Despite him never playing LB in his life? This is a major tournament, not some kickabout for the lads. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 10, 2020 20:03:39 GMT
I'd only consider Gunter an option for RB or LB in a back 4. As you say has only played CB in a back 3 so can't play there for us the way we play now. That being said I think I'd happily take him as a backup LB. Despite him never playing LB in his life? This is a major tournament, not some kickabout for the lads. Played there for us on multiple occasions, including our most recent game against Denmark. |
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 10, 2020 20:14:10 GMT
Despite him never playing LB in his life? This is a major tournament, not some kickabout for the lads. Played there for us on multiple occasions, including our most recent game against Denmark. When Dummett went off injured, yes. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 10, 2020 20:23:14 GMT
Played there for us on multiple occasions, including our most recent game against Denmark. When Dummett went off injured, yes. Yes and he played better than Dummett did |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 20:42:33 GMT
Roberts has played at left back and on the right wing in the past season and a half for Swansea, so I wouldn't consider him less versatile than Gunter at all, just differently versatile. Neco's also played on the left in his short career (LWB for Wales u19s for one of the last round of matches).
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Post by cadno on Mar 10, 2020 21:18:32 GMT
Despite him never playing LB in his life? This is a major tournament, not some kickabout for the lads. Played there for us on multiple occasions, including our most recent game against Denmark. He's played left back for Wales a few times, especially earlier on in his career. He played there in our 0-0 draw away to Germany in 2007 |
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Post by dai on Mar 10, 2020 22:36:38 GMT
Despite him never playing LB in his life? This is a major tournament, not some kickabout for the lads. Played there for us on multiple occasions, including our most recent game against Denmark. Multiple occasions?? Please list as I cant think of any more than 4/5 times he’s has to play out of RB. Its a tough old decision for Giggs. Roberts will 100% go. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 10, 2020 22:41:17 GMT
Played there for us on multiple occasions, including our most recent game against Denmark. Multiple occasions?? Please list as I cant think of any more than 4/5 times he’s has to play out of RB. Its a tough old decision for Giggs. Roberts will 100% go. Aside from Denmark and Belarus I can't name any off the top of my head to be fair but there are defo more times. Anyway, I've been impressed with him when he has played there. Certainly wouldn't consider it a drop in quality from when Taylor plays. Agree that Roberts should go. My 4 fullbacks would be Roberts, Gunter, Neco and Davies. |
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 13, 2020 16:49:34 GMT
Played there for us on multiple occasions, including our most recent game against Denmark. He's played left back for Wales a few times, especially earlier on in his career. He played there in our 0-0 draw away to Germany in 2007 LOL I am nearly 25 and was in year 7 in 2007 ffs. |
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Post by cadno on Mar 13, 2020 17:23:21 GMT
He's played left back for Wales a few times, especially earlier on in his career. He played there in our 0-0 draw away to Germany in 2007 LOL I am nearly 25 and was in year 7 in 2007 ffs. Me too 🤣 |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 13, 2020 18:10:44 GMT
LOL I am nearly 25 and was in year 7 in 2007 ffs. Me too 🤣 Same |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 30, 2020 15:21:00 GMT
Connor dropped for tonight’s game after his mare on Saturday. He's had an underwhelming season overall, bad run of form or has he been found out?
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 30, 2020 22:45:28 GMT
Connor dropped for tonight’s game after his mare on Saturday. He's had an underwhelming season overall, bad run of form or has he been found out? Manager is crap. |
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Post by alarch on Jun 30, 2020 23:01:34 GMT
Connor dropped for tonight’s game after his mare on Saturday. He's had an underwhelming season overall, bad run of form or has he been found out? Did he have a mare on Saturday? Wasn't great for sure, but Cooper hasn't a clue how to play to Connor's strengths. Swansea are regressing at a rate of knots, and the footballers in the team, of which Connor is one, are lost in the miasma that's Cooper's way. |
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Post by jackanapes on Jul 1, 2020 17:23:01 GMT
The fish rots from the head. Cooper is destroying most of our better players. Connor, Celina and Byers have suffered more than most. Turgid football.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 5, 2020 12:48:39 GMT
Connor’s back then
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Post by manulike on Jul 5, 2020 13:09:41 GMT
Yes. The Big man is back ;-)
Assist for first and won the pen for the second.
MOTM
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 14:27:48 GMT
Has the same problem still where Ayew is incapable of playing a one-two. You could hear Connor screaming for the first time return ball so often today, but Ayew just wants to hold it and dribble people himself (which he's pretty good at tbf).
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Post by alarch on Jul 5, 2020 14:52:18 GMT
It saddens me to say it but Roberts needs to leave Swansea if Cooper continues as manager (which is very likely). Roberts' greatest strength is his willingness to pass and move - always looking to move into space for the return pass. Trouble is Cooper isn't the least bit interested in setting the team to play as a pass and move side. Cooper loves a lofted aimless ball down the line, or even into Swansea's short centre forward. No doubt I come across as a spoilt brat, but when you've tasted caviar you recognise fish eggs for what they are.
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