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Post by quetzal on Nov 19, 2020 22:45:16 GMT
Dreadful decision to do the open top bus tour without the trophy. I’m still gutted about that decision
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Post by pendragon on Nov 19, 2020 22:47:05 GMT
I listened to this interview the other night. www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-lG7B9aIeEColeman made several references to the tactics that he used in each game. I might have to review my belief that the idea and implementation of 5 at the back was due to Osian. Coleman also made reference to a journalist not celebrating when Bale scored against Belgium and he thought that the journalist wanted Coleman to fail. Be interesting to know who that was. Abbandonato? Probably a Welsh Unionist 😂 Jason Mohammed? 🤔 |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 20, 2020 11:25:39 GMT
Probably a Welsh Unionist 😂 Jason Mohammed? 🤔 I'm pretty sure it was Abbandonato, wasn't he grilling Coleman at the time? To me, if you didn't celebrate that goal you shouldn't be in the ground. One of the best goals I've seen live in terms of the celebrations - I swear it was so unbelievably loud. You could feel the belief level going up several clicks in front of our eyes, monumental night for us that changed the course of history Has there been a home goal that's been more important/significant in recent history? I can't think of one |
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Post by melynwy on Nov 20, 2020 11:29:54 GMT
I'm pretty sure it was Abbandonato, wasn't he grilling Coleman at the time? To me, if you didn't celebrate that goal you shouldn't be in the ground. One of the best goals I've seen live in terms of the celebrations - I swear it was so unbelievably loud. You could feel the belief level going up several clicks in front of our eyes, monumental night for us that changed the course of history Has there been a home goal that's been more important/significant in recent history? I can't think of one It was beautiful wasn’t it. And even though it wasn’t spectacular, it really took a world class player to score that goal. To have the composure to glance at the keeper instead of trying to lob him with a header was a super hero slowing down time! Courtois had stayed back, and would have outwitted most players. One of my very favourite goals. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 20, 2020 11:35:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure it was Abbandonato, wasn't he grilling Coleman at the time? To me, if you didn't celebrate that goal you shouldn't be in the ground. One of the best goals I've seen live in terms of the celebrations - I swear it was so unbelievably loud. You could feel the belief level going up several clicks in front of our eyes, monumental night for us that changed the course of history Has there been a home goal that's been more important/significant in recent history? I can't think of one It was beautiful wasn’t it. And even though it wasn’t spectacular, it really took a world class player to score that goal. To have the composure to glance at the keeper instead of trying to lob him with a header was a super hero slowing down time! Courtois had stayed back, and would have outwitted most players. One of my very favourite goals. Absolutely, as soon as I realised it was falling to Bale I was getting ready to celebrate. Any of our other players would probably have tried to head it in, but took a hell of a lot of composure to bring it down and slot it on his weak foot |
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Post by dlwilliams on Feb 8, 2021 11:07:26 GMT
Chris Coleman is the guest on Monday Night Football on Sky tonight. Leeds vs. Crystal Palace. I think he was last on it just after the Euros, it was a Chelsea game if I remember. Seem to recall him discussing the 3-5-2 because Conte had started using it at the time.
They usually devote the last half an hour/quarter of an hour to the guest, so I should imagine they'll talk about his career etc.
Interesting to see what he has to say about Bale if they discuss it.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 8, 2021 11:12:54 GMT
Should be really interesting. Really like his Oxford union talk & interested to see what topics they cover. Bale will surely be one, Cymru should get a bit of time as well talking about the upcoming Euros
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Post by alarch on Feb 9, 2021 9:56:48 GMT
Did he say anything interesting?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 9, 2021 10:11:52 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 9, 2021 10:14:52 GMT
He also created his all time best side, assuming it's from players he's played with and managed. He went with this:
Neville Southall
Philippe Christanval
Ashley Williams
Ben Davies
Chris Gunter
Javier Mascherano
Joe Allen
Ryan Giggs
Aaron Ramsey
Alan Shearer
Gareth Bale
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 9, 2021 10:42:46 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 9, 2021 11:58:57 GMT
He also created his all time best side, assuming it's from players he's played with and managed. He went with this: Neville Southall Philippe Christanval Ashley Williams Ben Davies Chris Gunter Javier Mascherano Joe Allen Ryan Giggs Aaron Ramsey Alan Shearer Gareth Bale I'm surprised Speedo didn't make the cut here. Surely Speed in his prime was a better footballer than an aged Mascherano. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 9, 2021 12:21:11 GMT
He also created his all time best side, assuming it's from players he's played with and managed. He went with this: Neville Southall Philippe Christanval Ashley Williams Ben Davies Chris Gunter Javier Mascherano Joe Allen Ryan Giggs Aaron Ramsey Alan Shearer Gareth Bale I'm surprised Speedo didn't make the cut here. Surely Speed in his prime was a better footballer than an aged Mascherano. I mean Mascherano was part of one of the best sides ever. I take your point but I can see how even past his best Mascherano must have been brilliant. His skill was more in reading the game, positioning & composure rather than physicality & speed so perhaps he hadn't declined that much? |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 9, 2021 12:30:53 GMT
I'm surprised Speedo didn't make the cut here. Surely Speed in his prime was a better footballer than an aged Mascherano. I mean Mascherano was part of one of the best sides ever. I take your point but I can see how even past his best Mascherano must have been brilliant. His skill was more in reading the game, positioning & composure rather than physicality & speed so perhaps he hadn't declined that much? Did he play in midfield for Hebei or in defence? I'd still be inclined to go with Speed at his prime, considering he's renowned as one of the greatest premier league players of all time. The Chinese Super League isn't anywhere near the standard of the EPL either so it's very hard to judge a player from his performances at that level. |
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Post by marsvolta on Feb 9, 2021 13:18:48 GMT
I mean Mascherano was part of one of the best sides ever. I take your point but I can see how even past his best Mascherano must have been brilliant. His skill was more in reading the game, positioning & composure rather than physicality & speed so perhaps he hadn't declined that much? Did he play in midfield for Hebei or in defence? I'd still be inclined to go with Speed at his prime, considering he's renowned as one of the greatest premier league players of all time. The Chinese Super League isn't anywhere near the standard of the EPL either so it's very hard to judge a player from his performances at that level. I suppose he tried to mix it up a bit without making it an all-Welsh team. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 9, 2021 14:20:20 GMT
Did he play in midfield for Hebei or in defence? I'd still be inclined to go with Speed at his prime, considering he's renowned as one of the greatest premier league players of all time. The Chinese Super League isn't anywhere near the standard of the EPL either so it's very hard to judge a player from his performances at that level. I suppose he tried to mix it up a bit without making it an all-Welsh team. Yeah probably this too |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 9, 2021 15:24:45 GMT
Did he play in midfield for Hebei or in defence? I'd still be inclined to go with Speed at his prime, considering he's renowned as one of the greatest premier league players of all time. The Chinese Super League isn't anywhere near the standard of the EPL either so it's very hard to judge a player from his performances at that level. I suppose he tried to mix it up a bit without making it an all-Welsh team. But he found room for Gunter.  I'm going to be in trouble for saying that! |
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Post by jackanapes on Feb 9, 2021 15:38:34 GMT
I suppose he tried to mix it up a bit without making it an all-Welsh team. But he found room for Gunter. I'm going to be in trouble for saying that! He chose Gunter over Delaney. He's clearly taking the piss. |
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Post by adecolley on Feb 9, 2021 15:54:36 GMT
Chin-up's an interesting choice! Ta for the heads-up on the Oxford Union chat which is at www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8daes-0vSoI actually hadn't heard Coleman talk much at all and this and the Sky Sports contributions have been very impressive |
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Post by foxmulder on Mar 1, 2021 17:32:15 GMT
Just thinking aloud without any thought to any consequence or details....
But with the Euros coming up, Giggs' bail being extended etc, is it worth reaching out to Coleman to temporally take charge until after the tournament? He does have the experience after all.
Surely we can't have Giggs making the decisions via phone calls to Rob Page whilst this is going on?
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Post by foxmulder on Mar 1, 2021 17:32:47 GMT
Sorry the thread title was meant to be "Bring Coleman back??" - I'm tired.
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Mar 1, 2021 20:24:15 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if this were to happen. Coleman is still well thought of by many in Wales.
In view of J Ford difficulty - and given the importance of the March-July period (and beyond) for Welsh football - might RG resign of his own accord anyway, purely to make things easier for the beleagured FAW?
(Also... feel sorry for RG - and complainant, obviously - that their whole situation is taking so long to be resolved. The case itself can't be that complicated for CPS to take a view, surely?)
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Post by ch7 on Mar 1, 2021 20:52:04 GMT
I dreamt about this the other night
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Post by quetzal on Mar 1, 2021 21:02:28 GMT
Not for me
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 1, 2021 21:04:00 GMT
Coleman would struggle without Osian.
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 1, 2021 23:20:04 GMT
Just ask Mick McCarthy to replicate his first 7 games as Cardiff boss. Sorted.
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Post by jonathandearth on Mar 3, 2021 12:21:29 GMT
If Giggs can't do it, then I'd have Mark Hughes back.
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Post by insertname on Mar 3, 2021 12:40:47 GMT
Keep with the status quo, which seems to be Giggs managing by phone.
Coleman’s era has been and gone, the worry has to be that he’ll go back to safety first football because that’s all he knows at a time when we’re in good form and winning games.
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Post by dlwilliams on Mar 3, 2021 12:47:44 GMT
Coleman would struggle without Osian. I see people say this from time to time, but how would anyone know, without actually being privy to the inner workings of the dressing room, precisely how much influence Roberts had on things? |
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Post by dlwilliams on Mar 3, 2021 12:51:52 GMT
On a side note, Coleman is going to be one of the celebrities learning Welsh in the new series of 'Iaith ar Daith' on S4C, which starts on Sunday night. Not sure when his episode will be on. It probably won't be one of the first ones, given that he and his mentor, Owain Tudur Jones, are filming it this week. Check out OTJ's Instagram, he's been sharing what they're getting up to.
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