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Post by welshiron on Nov 9, 2019 15:29:02 GMT
Better finisher than Bradshaw?
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Post by iot on Nov 9, 2019 15:39:23 GMT
Sounds like a classic Wilson goal, where the team sets it up for him and rely on his brilliant left foot to apply the finish from the edge of the box - straight from the training ground by the sounds of it. That's how you get the best out of him - make sure he gets into those positions where he can just do what he's best at - getting pot shots off from the edge of the area Trouble is, I'm not sure we're tactically good enough + have enough prep before games to make sure we find him in those positions
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Post by manulike on Nov 9, 2019 15:41:10 GMT
Sounds like a classic Wilson goal, where the team sets it up for him and rely on his brilliant left foot to apply the finish from the edge of the box - straight from the training ground by the sounds of it. That's how you get the best out of him - make sure he gets into those positions where he can just do what he's best at - getting pot shots off from the edge of the area Trouble is, I'm not sure we're tactically good enough + have enough prep before games to make sure we find him in those positions Yes. It was a wonderfully worked ball and Harry just did what Harry does best - smash it into the corner ;-) |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 9, 2019 18:40:21 GMT
Worth a watch on MOTD, fantastic finish as it's slightly behind him when he strikes it.
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Post by dai on Nov 10, 2019 15:44:45 GMT
Great finish, but im more interested in how his overall play was. Anyone watched the game? Didnt feature much in highlights on motd apart from the goal
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Post by johnoster on Nov 11, 2019 9:26:56 GMT
Poor defending for Newcastle's equaliser.
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Post by manulike on Nov 16, 2019 22:40:30 GMT
Is there anything that this man can not do?
He now goes and scores with his head from the six yard line.
Together with Kieffer, was MOTM for me.
BRILLIANT!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 16, 2019 23:01:21 GMT
Best game in a Wales shirt for Harry since China in my opinion.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 17, 2019 20:52:08 GMT
Bar the ROI away game possibly...
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 17, 2019 22:44:08 GMT
Bar the ROI away game possibly... Obviously he got the goal in that one and won us the game, but his performance was better last night in my opinion. |
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Post by pendragon on Nov 30, 2019 18:37:22 GMT
Amongst the Euro draw news, glad to see Harry bagged a double for Bournemouth today, even if they did lose the match against Spurs  |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 30, 2019 19:06:19 GMT
Is there a better free kick taker in Europe?
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Post by alarch on Nov 30, 2019 19:09:57 GMT
Free kicks: Wilson, Bale, Ramsey. In that order.
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Post by nwcherries on Nov 30, 2019 19:16:36 GMT
What I will say is his when he’s ON, he can really change games. His end product at times is absolutely fantastic. I think I prefer him coming off the bench, but he’s certainly a good option to have. Still waiting to see him play behind the striker though.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 30, 2019 23:39:13 GMT
6 goals now in the Premier League, on track for double figures.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 30, 2019 23:43:26 GMT
What I will say is his when he’s ON, he can really change games. His end product at times is absolutely fantastic. I think I prefer him coming off the bench, but he’s certainly a good option to have. Still waiting to see him play behind the striker though. I think your previous description of him as a silent assassin was apt! |
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Post by cadno on Dec 1, 2019 6:39:44 GMT
Free kicks: Wilson, Bale, Ramsey. In that order. Will Bale let Harry have first dibs? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 1, 2019 10:31:29 GMT
Free kicks: Wilson, Bale, Ramsey. In that order. Will Bale let Harry have first dibs? He should but he won't. When he retires though Harry will be our main man on the set pieces. |
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 1, 2019 10:38:49 GMT
Will Bale let Harry have first dibs? He should but he won't. When he retires though Harry will be our main man on the set pieces. If Wilson is better he should do the right thing. Bale isn’t scoring them anymore, a Bale free kick used to be as good as a penalty, but for Wales except Hungary I can’t even remember when he last came close. He played for Ronaldo Madrid for years so should know how frustrating it is when people are clinging on to set pieces because of what he did 5 years ago. |
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Post by hooky on Dec 1, 2019 10:39:44 GMT
I hope Giggs ruthlessly tells Bale to let the master freekick craftsman take the kicks
I do not understand how Bale went from scoring from 1 in 2 free kicks to not scoring from one in 2 years? He used to at least always hit the target. Very strange! You can't ignore the statistics and Wilson is way ahead of Bale at the moment. I hope Bale is man enough to let Wilson do his stuff.
On Wilson - what is he missing? He is deadly and powerful in the shot. Takes up great positions, can pass, create, cross, tackle. He does not have pace but is not slow either. That suggests he could be a great player but why does he become so anonymous for large parts of a game?
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Post by hooky on Dec 1, 2019 10:41:32 GMT
Adding on to Wilson - he is surely top European class in terms of his striking surely?
I remember last year he had scored the most goals from outside the box in the league? And this year he holds a similar record for the Premiership?
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Post by robin1864 on Dec 1, 2019 10:52:45 GMT
Adding on to Wilson - he is surely top European class in terms of his striking surely? I remember last year he had scored the most goals from outside the box in the league? And this year he holds a similar record for the Premiership? Yeah, but he can't do pointless sideways passes and lacks other desirable traits "well-rounded" footballers should have, so let's not get ahead of ourselves, he knows his place. At times it gets a bit "what did the Romans ever do for us?!" when it comes to discussing Wilson. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 1, 2019 10:53:30 GMT
I hope Giggs ruthlessly tells Bale to let the master freekick craftsman take the kicks I do not understand how Bale went from scoring from 1 in 2 free kicks to not scoring from one in 2 years? He used to at least always hit the target. Very strange! You can't ignore the statistics and Wilson is way ahead of Bale at the moment. I hope Bale is man enough to let Wilson do his stuff. On Wilson - what is he missing? He is deadly and powerful in the shot. Takes up great positions, can pass, create, cross, tackle. He does not have pace but is not slow either. That suggests he could be a great player but why does he become so anonymous for large parts of a game? On your first point, chances are with everyone fit Wilson doesn't start so perhaps to keep Bale's confidence up he's being the one to take them. That would be my guess anyway. On Wilson, I would say he doesn't always take up good positions to receive the ball in open play, and I think this is why he struggles to get on the ball enough to influence games. I also think he's coming to a crossroads in terms of his positioning, at the moment he's halfway between a 9 and 10. In an ideal world he would play in a system where he could be the CF, however most teams don't use that role preferring to utilise an out and out 10. I personally think he needs to transform himself into an out and out 9. If he can learn to position himself well in the box and score more "easy goals" then he can become a 20 goal a season player, given how prolific he is from long range as well. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Dec 1, 2019 11:06:35 GMT
I think the #10 role is where he'll have success, I don't think there's anything wrong with his game other than him going missing, and this is the area of the pitch where he's most likely to make an impact on a game, and be in a position to receive the ball. From the wing he can go missing, and I think up top as well he's also potentially likely to be marked out of a game (although I still think he'd score enough goals to warrant his place in a Premier League side).
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Post by iot on Dec 1, 2019 11:23:29 GMT
Adding on to Wilson - he is surely top European class in terms of his striking surely? I remember last year he had scored the most goals from outside the box in the league? And this year he holds a similar record for the Premiership? Yeah, but he can't do pointless sideways passes and lacks other desirable traits "well-rounded" footballers should have, so let's not get ahead of ourselves, he knows his place. At times it gets a bit "what did the Romans ever do for us?!" when it comes to discussing Wilson. That's an incredibly naive and poor take. There's a reason he's in and out of the Bournemouth team, despite scoring 6 times. Very few teams can afford to carry players with next to no contribution in general play, certainly Wales and Bournemouth can't afford to do that. It's a big a reason for our dreadful performance against Azerbaijan home. It's difficult to put your finger on what he's missing. I think it's a number of intangibles like spatial awareness, off the ball movement. His decision-making isn't great. Athletically he's very poor but technically he's excellent. So when he does find space in good positions he can get off those excellent shots/passess/crosses. But he struggles to do that because he's so poor physically. He loses the ball far too often by getting nudged off the ball, and he tends to start flagging after 50-60 mins. However, I'm encouraged by his performance against Azerbaijan away where he was far more involved, and he made a good impact off the bench against Croatia too, showing he can do it against good opposition. |
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Post by robin1864 on Dec 1, 2019 11:34:24 GMT
Yeah, but he can't do pointless sideways passes and lacks other desirable traits "well-rounded" footballers should have, so let's not get ahead of ourselves, he knows his place. At times it gets a bit "what did the Romans ever do for us?!" when it comes to discussing Wilson. That's an incredibly naive and poor take. There's a reason he's in and out of the Bournemouth team, despite scoring 6 times. Very few teams can afford to carry players with next to no contribution in general play, certainly Wales and Bournemouth can't afford to do that. It's a big a reason for our dreadful performance against Azerbaijan home. It's difficult to put your finger on what he's missing. I think it's a number of intangibles like spatial awareness, off the ball movement. His decision-making isn't great. Athletically he's very poor but technically he's excellent. So when he does find space in good positions he can get off those excellent shots/passess/crosses. But he struggles to do that because he's so poor physically. He loses the ball far too often by getting nudged off the ball, and he tends to start flagging after 50-60 mins. However, I'm encouraged by his performance against Azerbaijan away where he was far more involved, and he made a good impact off the bench against Croatia too, showing he can do it against good opposition. For Wales at least, I think Giggs needs to play him in the same position consistently, rather than trying to ham-fistedly fit him and all the other big names onto the pitch at the same time, even if that means he has to come off the bench. Trying him out as a midfielder, winger, striker, left, right etc. etc. every game, it was never going to work, was it? Given a run in the same position over a decent period of time, I think we'd see a much better player. |
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 1, 2019 11:38:03 GMT
I’ll be honest I don’t really watch the Premier League so just basing it off Wales. Are people suggesting he could lead the line? In my view he doesn’t have anywhere near the physicality to be up front. Number 10 is the only position I think he fits.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 1, 2019 11:45:15 GMT
If we have the luxury of a fully fit squad at the Euros, I can see Y Corwynt o Corwen being used mostly as an impact sub, coming on for the last 20/30 mins. We’ll get the most out of him that way.
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Post by iot on Dec 1, 2019 14:39:18 GMT
That's an incredibly naive and poor take. There's a reason he's in and out of the Bournemouth team, despite scoring 6 times. Very few teams can afford to carry players with next to no contribution in general play, certainly Wales and Bournemouth can't afford to do that. It's a big a reason for our dreadful performance against Azerbaijan home. It's difficult to put your finger on what he's missing. I think it's a number of intangibles like spatial awareness, off the ball movement. His decision-making isn't great. Athletically he's very poor but technically he's excellent. So when he does find space in good positions he can get off those excellent shots/passess/crosses. But he struggles to do that because he's so poor physically. He loses the ball far too often by getting nudged off the ball, and he tends to start flagging after 50-60 mins. However, I'm encouraged by his performance against Azerbaijan away where he was far more involved, and he made a good impact off the bench against Croatia too, showing he can do it against good opposition. For Wales at least, I think Giggs needs to play him in the same position consistently, rather than trying to ham-fistedly fit him and all the other big names onto the pitch at the same time, even if that means he has to come off the bench. Trying him out as a midfielder, winger, striker, left, right etc. etc. every game, it was never going to work, was it? Given a run in the same position over a decent period of time, I think we'd see a much better player. Possibly, but he's up against bale, ramsey, james and brooks for one of those 3 positions behind moore. He needs to show at club level that he can contribute more in games before he challenges those 4. |
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Post by welwyn on Dec 2, 2019 14:38:13 GMT
The biggest problem with him being the one taking free-kicks is that he probably doesn't start if everyone's fit!
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