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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 7, 2023 20:55:50 GMT
He's had some really good games for us, Finland (H) & Austria (H) spring to mind. I agree he's inconsistent but feel he's been unlucky this season. He could have started the season on the back of a great Championship campaign, but a lengthy injury meant Fulham have had to find alternatives, and the fact they've continued to do well without him makes it hard for him to get back in But I do think that he's good enough to be a top flight player. The question is do we need him to be? As a regular doing well in the Champ he'd defo start for us now - but when he's in and out it's not a guarantee There's an element of truth in that, but also an element of glossing over a harsher reality - that Wilson has been fit for around 4 months now, has started around 10 games in that period for Fulham and us, and has been poor to average in those games. He has just the one goal and 0 assists to his name, and he doesn't offer much else in reality. The two wide forwards that have played well for most of the season (34yo Willian and the Cardiff reject) have gone off the boil these last few weeks, and it's been Solomon who's forced his way into the team after producing important goals. Wilson hasn't been able to do that. He also had a season-long loan at Bournemouth around 3 years ago where he was dropped for the second half of the season for not producing enough. So combined, the evidence certainly suggests he isn't a premier-league level player. I agree that being a top championship player is more than good enough to be an important squad member for us, but there's no escaping that Wilson is generally ineffective again accomplished opposition. For example, with this game against Croatia, I'm almost certain Wilson won't be able to offer anything against that caliber of opposition. Who would you start ahead of him tho? We don't have anyone who have provided evidence they can be any more effective against opposition of Croatia's calibre |
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Post by talyfan on Mar 7, 2023 21:12:22 GMT
You could have just the front 4 players as
Brennan Ramsey James
Moore
Although to be honest for all the flack Wilson is getting, he's at least got minutes to warrant it!
Dan James doesn't even get a sniff at the moment to get pelters thrown at him. Not sure if he'll be very effective either puts the effort in though but need more from him.
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Post by iot on Mar 7, 2023 21:20:54 GMT
There's an element of truth in that, but also an element of glossing over a harsher reality - that Wilson has been fit for around 4 months now, has started around 10 games in that period for Fulham and us, and has been poor to average in those games. He has just the one goal and 0 assists to his name, and he doesn't offer much else in reality. The two wide forwards that have played well for most of the season (34yo Willian and the Cardiff reject) have gone off the boil these last few weeks, and it's been Solomon who's forced his way into the team after producing important goals. Wilson hasn't been able to do that. He also had a season-long loan at Bournemouth around 3 years ago where he was dropped for the second half of the season for not producing enough. So combined, the evidence certainly suggests he isn't a premier-league level player. I agree that being a top championship player is more than good enough to be an important squad member for us, but there's no escaping that Wilson is generally ineffective again accomplished opposition. For example, with this game against Croatia, I'm almost certain Wilson won't be able to offer anything against that caliber of opposition. Who would you start ahead of him tho? We don't have anyone who have provided evidence they can be any more effective against opposition of Croatia's calibre Think I've proposed this starting xi on a few threads now: Ward Roberts Mepham Rodon Davies Neco Ampadu Ramsey Morrell Johnson Moore So to answer your question, it would be Morrell for Wilson. While Wilson's obviously a much more talented player, I have a lot more trust in Morrell to do a job against Croatia. Morrell's actually been playing as an 8 recently for Portsmouth and it's brought the best out of him. This formation and personnel makes sense to me for so many reasons. |
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Post by surge on Mar 7, 2023 21:27:30 GMT
I think we need to put an arm around Dan James (and Tyler Roberts) now in similar way we did with Bale when he was younger. In no way am I implying they have similar talent levels but if Brennan's coming out to say that one of the reasons he chose Cymru/Wales was the family feel, well it's something we should probably keep.
If you want a cold-hearted reason, Dan James is one of few players with lots of experience playing left-attacking midfield. If we're not picking him we're probably looking at Broadhead or asking a player to do a job in new position. It's not like on the opposite wing where we're looking at i) Brennan Johnson, ii) Harry Wilson, iii) Sorba Thomas, iv) Ryan Hedges, v) Wes Burns, vi) David Brooks as potential options.
Coming back to Wilson, I think iot's read on Wilson's abilities is far too harsh. He's only 25 going on 26 so shouldn't be his best self yet (Decodova-Reid only now a premier league player on his third attempt and at 30) so Bournemouth season was him 22 going on 23 years-old.
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Post by iot on Mar 7, 2023 21:55:01 GMT
Wilson's 26 in a couple of weeks. He has 5 goals in 42 games for us, and doesn't contribute much when he's not scoring. Wide forwards are typically in their prime in their early to mid 20s, but accept with Wilson it's not necessarily going to be the case because he's never been blessed with pace. I don't think I'm being harsh at all. He's one of our technically most gifted players, but is a real lightweight and goes missing all the time and particularly against decent opposition. We should be relying on the likes of Morrell a lot more than him when it comes to games against Croatia and Turkey.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 8, 2023 0:26:33 GMT
Who would you start ahead of him tho? We don't have anyone who have provided evidence they can be any more effective against opposition of Croatia's calibre Think I've proposed this starting xi on a few threads now: Ward Roberts Mepham Rodon Davies Neco Ampadu Ramsey Morrell Johnson Moore So to answer your question, it would be Morrell for Wilson. While Wilson's obviously a much more talented player, I have a lot more trust in Morrell to do a job against Croatia. Morrell's actually been playing as an 8 recently for Portsmouth and it's brought the best out of him. This formation and personnel makes sense to me for so many reasons. I agree, and if we do go with that formation I think that lineup is most likely - and is a lineup I wouldn't complain about us fielding I know you're happy with Neco at LWB, but if I was in charge and playing this formation then Davies's recent form for Spurs as a LWB would tempt me to use him there and play someone like Regan Poole at LCB. You could argue it would be a gamble to play an uncapped player, and it definitely would be, but I'd be more comfortable playing an experienced pro like Poole that than throwing in a youngster. I also feel an orthodox LWB will help us get the best out of Moore But it's certain for me that Morrell is a more reliable option in a game like this than Wilson, for sure |
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Post by talyfan on Mar 8, 2023 7:20:11 GMT
I think if we were putting Davies at wing back. You'd probably see the likes of Cabango and Lockyer in there before Regan Poole.
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Post by manulike on Mar 26, 2023 11:51:27 GMT
Any news about the Mitrovic red card and can that affect his PL games? I imagine that William's suspension is purely from next FA cup tie?
Would be nice if Harry and Dan could get some playing time :+)
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 28, 2023 23:19:55 GMT
Superb over the two games and unlucky not to score tonight. Da iawn Harry lad
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 29, 2023 19:18:35 GMT
I second that, great performance from him. Some people will say "it's only Latvia" but plenty of highly rated players have had games against the likes of Latvia and done nothing.
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Post by manulike on Apr 1, 2023 13:26:51 GMT
How annoying!
Two Fulham strikers are on red cards, but still neither Harry nor Dan get into starting 11...
No sign at all of our Kieffer or Meps either - have they picked up an knocks?
This was supposed to be a wall-to-wall Welsh affair ;-(
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 1, 2023 13:33:40 GMT
If Wrexham were to do the unthinkable and get three back to back promotions what's the betting that Harry joins them?
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Post by morg on Apr 1, 2023 13:44:38 GMT
If Wrexham were to do the unthinkable and get three back to back promotions what's the betting that Harry joins them? I'd have money on Danny Ward going there next season unless Foster decides to carry on. |
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Post by underwood on Apr 1, 2023 14:58:26 GMT
If Wrexham were to do the unthinkable and get three back to back promotions what's the betting that Harry joins them? Yeah & maybe Mbappe too. |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 15, 2023 15:15:56 GMT
Harry starts, Harry scores
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Post by manulike on Apr 15, 2023 15:31:32 GMT
Made one, scored one and Dan gets the other.
#MerseysideIsWelsh
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Post by welshrover on Apr 15, 2023 15:32:52 GMT
The Welsh boys ripping it up!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 15, 2023 23:43:04 GMT
Looks like Wilson had a class game, pops up several times here in the highlights. Good to see DJ have a good game too, but Wilson is the one who deserves a proper shot at the Premier League now. He was class last season, but the timing of his injury this season has meant he hasn't had a real crack at it. But with Fulham's dip in form, and then a performance like this from Wilson, perhaps he'll be able to keep his place moving forwards www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmC9juHNS30&ab_channel=SkySportsPremierLeague |
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Post by rushy on Apr 16, 2023 7:41:40 GMT
Nice for the two lads to get on the pitch and do well, they needed this.
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 22, 2023 12:50:04 GMT
Another game another goal for Harry, proving he can cut it while also doing a fine job of trying to get rid of the two sides that deserve relegation, Everton and Leeds
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 22, 2023 13:38:17 GMT
Tidy finish
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Apr 22, 2023 13:38:37 GMT
Well done, Harold - that cultured left foot does the trick again!
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Post by manulike on Apr 22, 2023 18:04:29 GMT
Brilliant piece of finishing.
Class.
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Post by underwood on Apr 25, 2023 19:09:08 GMT
Must be crocked - gone off in the 17th minute.
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Post by welwyn on Apr 26, 2023 14:09:15 GMT
Must be crocked - gone off in the 17th minute. Stomach illness apparently. Might be going around, Locks went off with an illness last Tuesday at Reading. |
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Post by quetzal on Apr 30, 2023 14:01:37 GMT
Looking good. Great movement and a nice assist against the Champions,
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 30, 2023 20:35:22 GMT
Coming good just in time for the Summer, really pleased for him, hopefully he can push on now with a top level career seeing as Fulham are staying up.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 30, 2023 22:07:07 GMT
If he can nail himself down in that Fulham side next season I'd be happy starting him. Wilson on the right, Brennan on the left. With Connor & Davies in behind that's an all Premier League pair of flanks
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 30, 2023 23:41:26 GMT
If he can nail himself down in that Fulham side next season I'd be happy starting him. Wilson on the right, Brennan on the left. With Connor & Davies in behind that's an all Premier League pair of flanks I like the sound of that although Dan James is ahead of Brennan for me right now, he has the shirt and Brennan needs to try and do enough to get it off him. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 1, 2023 8:25:24 GMT
If he can nail himself down in that Fulham side next season I'd be happy starting him. Wilson on the right, Brennan on the left. With Connor & Davies in behind that's an all Premier League pair of flanks I like the sound of that although Dan James is ahead of Brennan for me right now, he has the shirt and Brennan needs to try and do enough to get it off him. I think Brennan has done more than enough to get it off James, he's had a much better season than him, has played way more games, and is just overall a better player |
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