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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 9, 2017 13:01:29 GMT
Looking positively at him not being on the bench then I guess the double header probably exhausted him physically and mentally. Also what would we prefer? Him not playing much for Liverpool first team may be good as he will be totally pumped up for our final double header, albeit it would be good if he got a couple of sub appearances for 25 mins before. Am annoyed they brought in 'I want to play centrally' Oxlaide-Chamberlain. The guy is over 24, blows hot and cold and definitely does not have game awareness. The one advantage he has over Ben is his pace - but he does not want to play on the wing! I am concerned he is going to hog the bench and keep Woodburn in the U23s. I like Klopp being protective of Ben but that should start with him being used off the bench not totally out of the squad. Ben has the same awareness and versatile skill set as Ramsey had at his age - which is extremely rare for a British player! |
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Post by zenith on Sept 9, 2017 13:11:46 GMT
Mane suspended for 3 games, so hopefully we will see Woodburn make the bench. I doubt it mind because Coutinho will be back.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Sept 9, 2017 13:42:45 GMT
Looking positively at him not being on the bench then I guess the double header probably exhausted him physically and mentally. Also what would we prefer? Him not playing much for Liverpool first team may be good as he will be totally pumped up for our final double header, albeit it would be good if he got a couple of sub appearances for 25 mins before. Am annoyed they brought in 'I want to play centrally' Oxlaide-Chamberlain. The guy is over 24, blows hot and cold and definitely does not have game awareness. The one advantage he has over Ben is his pace - but he does not want to play on the wing! I am concerned he is going to hog the bench and keep Woodburn in the U23s. I like Klopp being protective of Ben but that should start with him being used off the bench not totally out of the squad. Ben has the same awareness and versatile skill set as Ramsey had at his age - which is extremely rare for a British player! Agree on ox being over rated. England player and press goes mad for them. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Sept 9, 2017 21:09:17 GMT
I really dont see why clippety didnt put ben on the bench at least seeingbas he only had 45-50 mins game time in 2 matches for us
After mane got the red lpool were totally lost and having Ben on the bench would have given them an option
As i say poor by clippety klopp
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 9, 2017 21:27:51 GMT
I really dont see why clippety didnt put ben on the bench at least seeingbas he only had 45-50 mins game time in 2 matches for us After mane got the red lpool were totally lost and having Ben on the bench would have given them an option As i say poor by clippety klopp Couldn't understand why they had Sturridge and Solanke on the bench but no real winger (If what the press say about Oxlade is to be believed), poor from Klopp |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 9, 2017 21:37:26 GMT
The incredible amount of media attention Ben Woodburn has received for his remarkable contribution to Wales can only help us in persuading Anglos to stick with us. The guy must feel like he is on cloud 9. I just sense he has the same incredible temperament as Bale and Ramsey and will take everything in his stride, helped by a good family behind him. Previously highly talented kids could have believed they could earn much more with England / enjoyed a much greater profile, but they have seen the profile Woodburn has got this week and realised that this is not the case anymore. They will also avoid the unrelenting criticism from media and fans when out of form. Also they will have seen how warmly us Welsh fans embraced him in Cardiff and what an amazing atmosphere it created. Finally, they see they can get the opportunities at a young age and will not just get banished to the nearest dustbin when their form dries up. PS - thanks to all you wonderful fans responsible for donating to charities when visiting deprived countries to follow Wales. You are not only a credit to the country but the human race. Yeah, I was looking at Ampadu in the centre circle at the end of the gme and he was clapping th fans and looking at the stadium going mental,bound to make him think he's mde the right decision. |
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Post by greenhippo on Sept 11, 2017 10:50:56 GMT
Just have a look at the way Ampadu celebrated with Woodburn at the end of the Austria match. It's very brief, but quite telling, I think.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Sept 11, 2017 11:23:14 GMT
I really dont see why clippety didnt put ben on the bench at least seeingbas he only had 45-50 mins game time in 2 matches for us After mane got the red lpool were totally lost and having Ben on the bench would have given them an option As i say poor by clippety klopp Couldn't understand why they had Sturridge and Solanke on the bench but no real winger (If what the press say about Oxlade is to be believed), poor from Klopp Think he deserved a spot on bench for his performances in the week. But think he is likely going to get some game time this season with Liverpool being in Europe. He certainly will play cup games and some European games i would think (if they have qualified) and the odd league appearance. He is at a good club to develop, delighted hes not with Chelsea or Man City! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 13, 2017 18:38:47 GMT
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Post by iot on Sept 13, 2017 19:48:42 GMT
Why is he playing for the U19s? Obviously Klopp will know how to nurture his talent far better than me, but from a Wales pov it would be nice for him to have some high-intensity football before the next double-header!
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Post by zenith on Sept 19, 2017 19:49:39 GMT
Star man on for Coutinho
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Post by oldman on Sept 19, 2017 20:41:08 GMT
Thought he played Ok tonight and unlucky not to score. |
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Post by jono on Sept 19, 2017 20:44:10 GMT
Thought he played Ok tonight and unlucky not to score. Took people on with ease. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 19, 2017 20:45:54 GMT
Did more in added time than Chamberlain did in 90 minutes, If Chamberlain is in the squad ahead of Woodburn on Saturday, well...
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 19, 2017 20:49:57 GMT
Looked more composed and capable than most of the players that started the game. That one effort on goal was so close to being another worldy, very unlucky not to nestle in the top corner.
Unfortunately, with Liverpool being knocked out that's probably the end of his first team involvement for a while. He deserves more on the back of that showing.
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Post by iot on Sept 19, 2017 20:56:28 GMT
He showed really good quality again tonight but not enough to force his way closer to the first team imo. It was a bit of a mixed bag, he seemed to get better and better as the game went on but lost the ball a few times and made a few mistakes initially. He showed some really nice touches later on in the game though, made a few good runs and almost slotted one into the top corner!
He's got what it takes to become a really good player but still has a fair way to go.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 21:40:15 GMT
He showed really good quality again tonight but not enough to force his way closer to the first team imo. It was a bit of a mixed bag, he seemed to get better and better as the game went on but lost the ball a few times and made a few mistakes initially. He showed some really nice touches later on in the game though, made a few good runs and almost slotted one into the top corner! He's got what it takes to become a really good player but still has a fair way to go. Really? I thought he looked top notch. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 10:08:07 GMT
Woodburn's Liverpool squad number is 58. Nice.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Sept 20, 2017 11:23:20 GMT
thought he played ok, but cant see him breaking in first team and maybe its for the best for him and wales. start playing at a young age and could burn out.
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Post by GuntersLeftFoot on Sept 20, 2017 11:55:25 GMT
Could benefit from a championship loan. But I would worry about him playing 40+games at such a young age, no doubt getting kicked in the air a lot of the time. Perhaps u23s is fine at this stage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 12:10:32 GMT
if you're good enough you're old enough - didn't seem to do Giggs any harm - he didn't burn out. Should be playing ahead of Oxlade - Wenger must be pissing himself all the way to the bank.
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Post by manulike on Oct 15, 2017 21:05:40 GMT
Happy Birthday, Ben.
Drink responsibly ;-)
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 15, 2017 22:43:33 GMT
Can now legally buy a pint
Doesn't have to buy them in Wales though
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Post by zenith on Oct 16, 2017 0:10:31 GMT
Now on £25,000 a week at the age of 18!
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Post by manulike on Oct 16, 2017 11:11:02 GMT
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Post by dragonsoccer on Oct 16, 2017 11:50:25 GMT
has been checked out, not eligible for Wales.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 16, 2017 12:33:25 GMT
Now on £25,000 a week at the age of 18! Fucking hell. 100 grand a month at 18, ridiculous. |
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Post by gwelfryn04 on Oct 16, 2017 19:45:55 GMT
Ben will be with the u/19s in Maribor |
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Post by ystradwales on Oct 16, 2017 20:46:31 GMT
From looking he seems to be from the Forest of Dean area. They signed him from Cheltenham Town |
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