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Post by richierich333 on Dec 14, 2016 9:42:54 GMT
Ben is on the bench again today v Bournemouth. Looks like Klopp is really pushing the lad Yeah, watching that now and was happy to see that he is in the squad again. Though,In some ways it might be better for us long term if he didn't play for the fist team at Liverpool and was low profile for a while, England have plenty of other players and he may slip under their radar. He's already fully exposed now there is no going back to relative obscurity. Fingers crossed that the current media's talk of him being annoyed at the departure of Geraint Wills and Dave Hughes is hot air. |
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Post by llannerch on Dec 14, 2016 18:29:40 GMT
He'd rot in the English system
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Post by manulike on Jan 18, 2017 21:47:54 GMT
Think Ben did enough in today's FA Cup to cement his place in next week's EFL Cup.
Played fantastic on the left flank previously, and today really dominated the centre of mid-field.
Well done, Ben!
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Post by rushlegend on Jan 19, 2017 16:36:36 GMT
He played very well but let's not get too carried away as no offence to Plymouth Argyle "who did well over the two games BTW" he needs to play in Premier League matches to see if he can be the next big thing in Welsh football.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 19, 2017 17:08:22 GMT
Agreed, don't want to get carried away but after last night's 2nd half performance I'd say the Ramsey comparisons are justified.
If he becomes even half the player as Rambo it bodes well for Wales.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 18:06:10 GMT
Agreed, don't want to get carried away but after last night's 2nd half performance I'd say the Ramsey comparisons are justified. If he becomes even half the player as Rambo it bodes well for Wales. Rambo has successfully become half the player he was, so Ben Woodburn has every chance. But, yes, he was very good, especially second half. A forward player coming deep into midfield and dictating the play as if he's done it for years bodes very well for someone so young. If he can stay around the first team over the next 6 weeks or so he has to be in line for a senior call-up. |
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Post by ae15 on Jan 19, 2017 21:31:58 GMT
Am I the only one who was a bit disappointed with Woodburn in these two games? He didn't do badly by any means, but I don't you can say he played fantastically well.
In both games he's been far too happy playing the ball backwards and sideways against a team parking the bus than trying to create an opportunity by dribbling or playing it through them. That's how you open up these teams. He'll learn that more in the future, and his goal record shows that he's certainly mastered this at U23 level, but usually raw youngsters are a lot more brave on the ball. It could be a good thing or a bad thing, only time will tell.
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Post by iot on Jan 20, 2017 15:24:03 GMT
Agreed, don't want to get carried away but after last night's 2nd half performance I'd say the Ramsey comparisons are justified. If he becomes even half the player as Rambo it bodes well for Wales.
But, yes, he was very good, especially second half. A forward player coming deep into midfield and dictating the play as if he's done it for years bodes very well for someone so young. If he can stay around the first team over the next 6 weeks or so he has to be in line for a senior call-up. What, half the player he was just a few months back in the Euros? He's not at top form, but he's gradually getting there. He's the ultimate confidence player and once he gets that back, we'll see his Euros form again |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 20:25:17 GMT
Rambo has successfully become half the player he was, so Ben Woodburn has every chance.
But, yes, he was very good, especially second half. A forward player coming deep into midfield and dictating the play as if he's done it for years bodes very well for someone so young. If he can stay around the first team over the next 6 weeks or so he has to be in line for a senior call-up. What, half the player he was just a few months back in the Euros? He's not at top form, but he's gradually getting there. He's the ultimate confidence player and once he gets that back, we'll see his Euros form again One swallow does not a summer make. Ramsey is a flake at best. He's had a few good moments, but unless it's one of the rare games where he's at the races he's increasingly pretty hopeless. One bad pass can mean six more are on their way and he either starts playing everying short and backwards or goes too far the other way and tries (usually unsuccessfully) to do too much. If decent options emerge I won't be sorry to see him benched. Although, of course, it's sad he's nowhere near the player he once promised to be. |
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Post by iot on Jan 21, 2017 10:01:22 GMT
What, half the player he was just a few months back in the Euros? He's not at top form, but he's gradually getting there. He's the ultimate confidence player and once he gets that back, we'll see his Euros form again One swallow does not a summer make. Ramsey is a flake at best. He's had a few good moments, but unless it's one of the rare games where he's at the races he's increasingly pretty hopeless. One bad pass can mean six more are on their way and he either starts playing everying short and backwards or goes too far the other way and tries (usually unsuccessfully) to do too much. If decent options emerge I won't be sorry to see him benched. Although, of course, it's sad he's nowhere near the player he once promised to be. I find that absurd. He won't be benched because, as far as talent goes, he's our second best player. The challenge is to get him to perform at the level he's capable of. When he plays at his best, he can run a game for us like no one else can and I'd go as far as to say he's the best midfielder we've ever had. I firmly believe that, very soon, he'll get his form back and everyone will be raving about him again. You'd struggle to find any other Welsh fan who shares your view on Ramsey, that should tell you something... |
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Post by manulike on Jan 21, 2017 12:20:06 GMT
Ben is keeping his spot on the bench.
He is sharing the bench with 3 or 4 players that would walk in to any first 11 of most other Prem teams.
This, I think, is credit to Ben, as it shows his versatility and real potential.
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Post by manulike on Jan 22, 2017 21:59:47 GMT
Ben played and scored in today's U23 match v Ipswich U23.
Also had an assist and another goal overruled.
Would be great to see him play in EPL on Wednesday - but being a semi-final, Klopp might be hesitant?
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Post by zenith on Jan 25, 2017 19:55:53 GMT
On the bench for Liverpool tonight in the 2nd leg against Southampton
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Post by manulike on Jan 25, 2017 21:58:04 GMT
The way Liverpool are playing this week, they will need Dean Saunders and Ian Rush to partner Woodburn upfront to have any hope against Dave Edwards and Co on Saturday ;-)
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Post by rhys44 on Jan 28, 2017 17:51:00 GMT
Decent performance today, easily Liverpool's best player. Worth a call up for Dublin? surely a better option than Cotterill, G. Williams etc.?
On a negative, I doubt he'll play again for LFC this season now they're out of all cup competitions!
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Post by manulike on Jan 28, 2017 20:54:01 GMT
Decent performance today, easily Liverpool's best player. Worth a call up for Dublin? surely a better option than Cotterill, G. Williams etc.? On a negative, I doubt he'll play again for LFC this season now they're out of all cup competitions! Agree with you that he played well today. I have a feeling that he has done enough to actually merit his continued inclusion on the bench with the seniors. He certainly seems to be very adaptable and plays well on left and right wings as well as in the centre of mid-field. He also does not shy away from defending duties (nudge nudge a certain A. King). I really can't imagine him been thrown into the away games in Dublin and Belgrade. If all else fails and TWO of Ramsey / Allen / Ledley/ Edwards / King are injured ... then he certainly gets my vote ahead of Huws and Cotterill. Sadly, I can't see George Williams included in the squad this time around. |
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Post by haruki on Jan 29, 2017 9:54:37 GMT
Would like to see him in the squad, possibly as an impact player to come off the bench although if Bale is fit the attacking impact is likely to be Lawrence as I don't see Cookie changing too much,
That said if he makes the bench I certainly see the logic in capping him
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Post by llannerch on Jan 29, 2017 13:15:37 GMT
One swallow does not a summer make. Ramsey is a flake at best. Making the Euro 2016 team of the tournament was extremely flaky |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 13:38:25 GMT
One swallow does not a summer make. Ramsey is a flake at best. Making the Euro 2016 team of the tournament was extremely flaky Mario Balotelli made the 2012 team. He didn't make Italy's Euro 2016 squad. |
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Post by wymane on Jan 30, 2017 12:50:55 GMT
Making the Euro 2016 team of the tournament was extremely flaky Mario Balotelli made the 2012 team. He didn't make Italy's Euro 2016 squad. |
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Post by wymane on Jan 30, 2017 12:51:33 GMT
Making the Euro 2016 team of the tournament was extremely flaky Mario Balotelli made the 2012 team. He didn't make Italy's Euro 2016 squad. |
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Post by wymane on Jan 30, 2017 12:54:42 GMT
Unbelievable. Are you the ť**t that sat behind me in the Slovakia game and told me Johnny Williams should start instead of Ramsey.
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Post by manulike on Feb 5, 2017 15:01:05 GMT
Saw another 90 mins of Ben and Harry with U23 v Spurs U23 (ended 3-2).
Ben was excellent in midfield. His awareness and creative passing are amazing for a 17 yo.
When going forward, he always seems to make plenty of space for himself.
I can really see him in 2 years or so teaming up with Allen and Ramsey.
What a prospect!
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Post by biwmares on Feb 13, 2017 21:58:32 GMT
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Post by idj68 on Feb 13, 2017 22:16:39 GMT
Quality- I know it's only u23 but he is too good for that level and is 17 !!Future Welsh legend |
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Post by biwmares on Feb 14, 2017 20:46:07 GMT
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Post by manulike on Feb 14, 2017 22:24:50 GMT
That Woodburn is starting to remind me of the young Ramsey. Some great foot work ;-O |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 14, 2017 23:43:34 GMT
There's some real class between the pair of them. If they don't get first team chances at Liverpool next season then time to go on loan at an ambitious champ side to show what they can really do.
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 27, 2017 21:48:07 GMT
On for the last 10 mins away at Leicester. Obviously still has a part to play this season.
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Post by manulike on Feb 27, 2017 23:35:06 GMT
On for the last 10 mins away at Leicester. Obviously still has a part to play this season. Fascinating. If King can't make the first team when his mate Shakespeare is in charge, and Woodburn can - maybe we are witnessing the changing of the guards ;-) If Woodburn remains part of the Liverpool first team squad for the next 3 weeks, I really can't justify him being left out of our 23. |
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