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Post by BA Baracus on Nov 25, 2010 10:29:46 GMT
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Post by georgetm1 on Nov 25, 2010 10:57:21 GMT
I really hope the FAW put their money where their mouth is. Because these plans sound expensive. But maybe having the england game in the Millenium stadium is a good thing so they can afford to do things like this.
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Post by llannerch on Nov 25, 2010 20:30:30 GMT
( The point about cash going to Wrexham and then going out of the game is an interesting one. It doesn't quite say "cash going to Wrexham" to my mind. The "decisions" that, according to Ford, have seen money leave the footballing side of things are things like taking over Crusaders RL and the halls of residence developments around the ground; maybe something Coliers Park related too? To be fair to the club, their ground is probably the best in the Conference - that's not where investment needs to go given the interminable decline on the pitch and the off-field money issues. And to be fair to the FAW why would it want to put money into an enterprise that was in administration not so long ago. The FAW might be stupid but it's not that stupid Ford is commiting to north Wales about as much as he can at the moment |
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Post by georgetm1 on Nov 25, 2010 22:25:48 GMT
I read in the paper today that some Wrexham councillers are putting forward a proposal for the local authorities to buy the stadium.
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Post by texan on Nov 26, 2010 1:48:39 GMT
Ploughing cash into a Conference side's ground to bring it up to International standard is not a good use of limited cash...even if it would enable more Intrnational matches up north, which, as a north Walian I'd want to see. Wrexham need to get back into the football league before they can justify shoving cash their way for ground improvements.
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Post by youngdragon on Nov 26, 2010 9:47:08 GMT
It wouldn't be to bad if our attendances were much better, but given that we struggle to get a serious number of fans in it dosent seem a big gamble for a little reward.
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Post by BA Baracus on Nov 26, 2010 11:32:18 GMT
Ploughing cash into a Conference side's ground to bring it up to International standard is not a good use of limited cash...even if it would enable more Intrnational matches up north, which, as a north Walian I'd want to see. Wrexham need to get back into the football league before they can justify shoving cash their way for ground improvements. Fair point, but if the cash is for enabling competitive Wales matches to take place in North Wales then Wrexham's benefit would be a by-product of that investment and not the main reason for it.... it's not as if the FAW have had to invest in the Millennium Stadium, Llanelli, the Liberty or CC Stadium. |
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Post by cilmeri on Nov 27, 2010 9:00:03 GMT
Ford mentions in that article that all clubs in Wales will be offered discount tickets for the England game... Which on the face of it is a good idea... But hang on a minute, what about those of us who got a percentage discount as a benefit of our gold or silver membership? If everyone gets a discount for England, why are members being charged for the benefit? Isn't he saying that tickets will be sold at face value but the clubs keeping the difference between the discounted value and face value? |
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Post by llannerch on Nov 27, 2010 20:56:22 GMT
'Investment' would suggest the FAW would get a return. The club's finances have been a busted flush for a while (maybe they still are with Crusaders RL in administration?). The FAW would be quite mad to put even a penny into that Club without looking at its balance sheet...and there's few people who wish to games in Wrexham than me |
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Post by scoop76 on Nov 27, 2010 22:11:33 GMT
Ford mentions in that article that all clubs in Wales will be offered discount tickets for the England game... Which on the face of it is a good idea... But hang on a minute, what about those of us who got a percentage discount as a benefit of our gold or silver membership? If everyone gets a discount for England, why are members being charged for the benefit? Isn't he saying that tickets will be sold at face value but the clubs keeping the difference between the discounted value and face value? yes - you're correct - I was wrong. In which case it's a good idea from the FAW. |
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Post by texan on Nov 28, 2010 2:43:43 GMT
Yes the improvement would theoretically benefit Wrexham, but with increased ground improvement comes increased maintenance fee...could Wrexham maintain that improvement given their current league status and gate fees afterwards?
Obviously I could be wrong and they could, I just think that knowing the FAW they'd chuck a chunk of cash at the club and forget about it, leaving WAFC to realise and deal with all the fiddly shit such as unmaintaneable debts later!
But if they are small changes that benefit the club for negligible cost then I'd be all for it.
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Post by flynnfan on Aug 3, 2011 22:02:25 GMT
Good news I reckon. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14387541Like the idea of them applying for lottery money to build new stands. Is the day competitive internationals return to north Wales a step nearer? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2011 22:13:55 GMT
Universities and football clubs/grounds are always a very safe combination
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Post by bale-droed on Aug 3, 2011 22:20:21 GMT
lets not overshadow how incredible it is that the first british uni to buy a football stadium to have a big stadium like "american uni's " as they put it is in wales.
new sport courses in football? players who dont make it at wrexham dont have to be disheartned they had something to aim for, football courses to improve young welsh stars who can't make it before 18.
incredible stuff, really is
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2011 22:23:57 GMT
Good news I reckon. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14387541Like the idea of them applying for lottery money to build new stands. Is the day competitive internationals return to north Wales a step nearer? Lets hope! It's about time! |
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Post by scoop76 on Aug 4, 2011 6:23:26 GMT
Plans sound very impressive - new stands behind both goals.
Now, if someone from the FAW can persude Glyndwr Uni to add new dressing rooms and media facilities, then there would be nothing to stop us playing international football at The Racecourse.
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Post by idiot on Aug 4, 2011 10:33:02 GMT
im cautiously optimistic,heard so many empty promises over the years its hard to take anything said too seriously from a wales point of view i wouldnt get your hopes up because if wrexham fc folds then the racecourse would make a lovely area for student housing roll on next saturday anyway  |
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Post by BA Baracus on Aug 4, 2011 12:32:29 GMT
I think a publicly-accountable organisation like the university owning the Racecourse is possibly the best solution for Wrexham. It will at least keep any property developers away from taking over the club. If I'm right Wrexham's probelms started when the club's owners got hold of the ground's freehold from Marston's brewery.
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Post by idiot on Aug 4, 2011 13:45:16 GMT
if all the promises are kept then its a good plan,its just a matter of wait and see if promises are kept
like i say,after the years of empty promises its hard to be too trusting of someone,especially when the ground the racecourse is built on has an obvious value to the uni wether it be a football ground or not
itll be nice to be there next saturday to see optimism on the terraces for once,how long that optimism lasts?who knows?
saunders meanwhile has done well during this period,backing the players publicly and getting into the fans corner when he said the board needed to sort the mess up asap
so he should have players and fans on board for the start of the season
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Aug 4, 2011 18:45:13 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Aug 4, 2011 19:27:34 GMT
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Post by llannerch on Aug 4, 2011 21:17:40 GMT
a publicly-accountable organisation like the university Hmmmm.....in what way accountable? |
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Post by flynnfan on Aug 4, 2011 21:49:16 GMT
Yeah, the 'publicly accountable' bit confused me too....
What it could possibly do for Glyndwr is turn the uni into one that's internationally famous for its sporting links. I'd have thought that fact that England two most world famous football clubs are within 50 miles of the university site could be a factor in this regard. So, with Liverpool and Manchester United on the doorstep it could encourage more rich students from places like Japan, the USA, Korea etc to take courses at Glyndwr. There are very strong commercial incentives for the uni to buy the Racecourse and promote the sporting links worldwide. Which is not neccesarily a bad thing for Wrexham FC and Welsh football.
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Post by BA Baracus on Aug 5, 2011 7:46:34 GMT
a publicly-accountable organisation like the university Hmmmm.....in what way accountable? Yeah, granted they're not publicly accounatable in quite the same way as say a council or NHS Trust, but they're essentially publicly accountable as, ultimately, their cash comes from the Government and what they do with it is more in the public interest. Added to that, these universites are absolutely desperate for good PR because there's so much competition in that sector - and doing something unpopular with the Racecourse would create a shit-storm. |
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Post by llannerch on Aug 5, 2011 11:42:41 GMT
Thought's that what you meant.
A mate of mine texted me suggesting it was a way of resisting a merger with another HE institution. Au contraire....I think it makes them a more attractive partner. The Racecourse, the surrounding land, and Colliers Park are attractive assets on the balance sheet.
They wouldn't have take them over without 'due diligence' on the structure and fabric of the ground so there shouldn't be (m)any capital costs and unforseen overheads to incur
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Post by flynnfan on May 14, 2014 13:43:32 GMT
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Post by Tim P on May 14, 2014 14:06:51 GMT
YES!
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Post by ysbryd on May 14, 2014 17:22:19 GMT
It has to be good news but I just can't see a full international with the current capacity set at about 10 770
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Post by llannerch on May 14, 2014 17:50:47 GMT
Any situation that creates the impression that there's big demand to watch Wales is occasionally a good thing. I'm sure any of us who wanted a ticket would be able to get one. A bouncing Racecourse with 10k packed in is a good place to play. The players would love it.
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Post by quetzal on May 14, 2014 21:33:33 GMT
This is great news. Remember the parents of Gary Speed are both English but his love affair with the Welsh National team began has a child when he saw Wales spank England 4-1 at the Racecourse. This is such good news for the people of North Wales and I'm from Bridgend just up the road from Cardiff. Chuffed.
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