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Post by biwmares on Feb 22, 2017 23:35:42 GMT
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Post by manulike on Feb 22, 2017 23:55:08 GMT
The artist impression looks great, hope it not just a con artist...
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Post by biwmares on Jun 28, 2017 19:53:29 GMT
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 29, 2017 12:20:19 GMT
The rightful home in all honesty is the capital city. I think all games should be played at CCS, but accept a friendly or two could be shared between Wrexham and Swansea.
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Post by jono on Jun 29, 2017 19:30:49 GMT
The rightful home in all honesty is the capital city. I think all games should be played at CCS, but accept a friendly or two could be shared between Wrexham and Swansea. Disagree. Thousands of fans travel from North Wales to Cardiff for match day and it's a long way. Giving them a friendly here and there isn't good enough. Y Cae Ras is the home of Welsh football.
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Post by superunknown on Jun 29, 2017 20:14:14 GMT
North Welsh fans travel in their droves despite the frankly awful public transport links between the North and the South. I don't think a few qualifiers is too much to ask for personally.
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Post by jono on Jun 30, 2017 8:43:16 GMT
North Welsh fans travel in their droves despite the frankly awful public transport links between the North and the South. I don't think a few qualifiers is too much to ask for personally. Absolutely this. If you use our current group as an example, of course have the bigger games in Cardiff due to the larger capacity you could have Moldova and Georgia in Wrexham for example (When Stadia upto Scratch).
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 30, 2017 10:04:40 GMT
I'm from the south so Cardiff games are very convenient for me but I'd still like to see more played in the north, even competitive fixtures.
Hopefully Wrecsam sort the stadium out soon...getting back in the bloody league would be a step in the right direction anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 11:40:39 GMT
What does Wrexham's ground hold in comparison to Cardiff City's? I travel from Manchester and think nothing of going to our capital.
The train journey down for Georgia was insane. Three carriages rammed full of Welsh fans. The journey flew by.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 30, 2017 12:00:22 GMT
The rightful home in all honesty is the capital city. I think all games should be played at CCS, but accept a friendly or two could be shared between Wrexham and Swansea. Absolute tosh. The FAW was founded in Wrexham.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 30, 2017 12:19:25 GMT
Ok lets go play all the games in tiny stadiums so no one can attend - well done, round of applause all. If we go back to 3,000 crowds then you might have a point, but whilst we can sell out the CCS for home games against Moldova & Georgia, it would be a financially and quite frankly geographically ridiculous move. The majority of Welsh people live in the South.
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Post by JC on Jun 30, 2017 12:41:19 GMT
The rightful home in all honesty is the capital city. I think all games should be played at CCS, but accept a friendly or two could be shared between Wrexham and Swansea. Absolute tosh. The FAW was founded in Wrexham. I think everyone knows that FAW was founded in Wrexham, but that doesn't change that fact that the stadium isn't big enough. Take out the fact that the stadium is in North Wales, can anyone really justify moving from the Capital and biggest football stadium in the country?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 30, 2017 13:15:22 GMT
Absolute tosh. The FAW was founded in Wrexham. I think everyone knows that FAW was founded in Wrexham, but that doesn't change that fact that the stadium isn't big enough. Take out the fact that the stadium is in North Wales, can anyone really justify moving from the Capital and biggest football stadium in the country? I'm on about the part that says the 'rightful home' is in the capital. The fact that the stadium is the most suited, doesn't mean it's right for the games to be played in Cardiff. It just makes it more convenient. Personally, I'd argue that the Welsh national team's rightful home is Wrexham but can accept that Cardiff has more suitable venues at this moment for matches to be played there. If the Racecourse ever gets back up to scratch (a big if, given the absence of help from the FAW and WAG), then I feel that 1 qualifier every campaign should be played up there.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 30, 2017 13:18:13 GMT
The rightful home is in the capital city, irrelevant where the FAW was started.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 30, 2017 13:23:44 GMT
The rightful home is in the capital city, irrelevant where the FAW was started. Should Scotland move away from Hampden then?
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 30, 2017 13:25:47 GMT
The rightful home is in the capital city, irrelevant where the FAW was started. Should Scotland move away from Hampden then? No but, they built a National Football Stadium in Glasgow (a major city), so makes little sense. We have a stadium that the players class as home, in Cardiff (a major city) - why do you want to go against the wishes of the players?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 30, 2017 13:33:41 GMT
Should Scotland move away from Hampden then? No but, they built a National Football Stadium in Glasgow (a major city), so makes little sense. We have a stadium that the players class as home, in Cardiff (a major city) - why do you want to go against the wishes of the players? You can't just pick and choose. If you say the capital city is the rightful home, then the same rules apply for them as they do for us. I'm sure the players will somehow get over it if we play 1 match a campaign in Wrexham. The players say they don't want to move to the Millennium, the question hasn't been put to them over playing elsewhere.
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Post by JC on Jun 30, 2017 14:23:28 GMT
I think everyone knows that FAW was founded in Wrexham, but that doesn't change that fact that the stadium isn't big enough. Take out the fact that the stadium is in North Wales, can anyone really justify moving from the Capital and biggest football stadium in the country? I'm on about the part that says the 'rightful home' is in the capital. The fact that the stadium is the most suited, doesn't mean it's right for the games to be played in Cardiff. It just makes it more convenient. Personally, I'd argue that the Welsh national team's rightful home is Wrexham but can accept that Cardiff has more suitable venues at this moment for matches to be played there. If the Racecourse ever gets back up to scratch (a big if, given the absence of help from the FAW and WAG), then I feel that 1 qualifier every campaign should be played up there. "The fact that the stadium is the most suited, doesn't mean it's right for the games to be played in Cardiff. It just makes it more convenient. Personally, I'd argue that the Welsh national team's rightful home is Wrexham" So even though it's the best football stadium, biggest City, has the best transport links doesn't make it right for games, but Wrexham's ground should be used because it was founded in a pub near the ground back in the 19th century? "If the Racecourse ever gets back up to scratch (a big if, given the absence of help from the FAW and WAG), then I feel that 1 qualifier every campaign should be played up there." You would want to move stadiums half way through qualifiers to a stadium with 10k capacity? Again, other than the fact it's up north I don't see why the Racecourse would be used?
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Post by jono on Jun 30, 2017 15:00:23 GMT
With respect it has been said numerous times ''If the Racecourse ever gets back upto scratch''.
There were/are proposals for a Millenium of the North for the Racecourse so if it were to happen, give the Racecourse a qualifier.
Do sense some arrogance. (Well, we're from south Wales so it's easier for us so Cardiff is where it should stay. F*ck Wrexham.)
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 30, 2017 15:12:02 GMT
Nothing arrogant about it. Ask England to play games in Bristol or Huddersfield! Why would they?
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 30, 2017 15:13:00 GMT
If Wrexham increases capacity to match Cardiff, then you have some argument, until then, and until our crowds drop - its a crazy suggestion.
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Post by biwmares on Jun 30, 2017 15:55:02 GMT
Everyone should read the excellent book from Phil Stead "Red Dragons: The Story of Welsh Football" www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Red-Dragons-Story-Welsh-Football-Phil-Stead/1784612367Surely the qualifying games against smaller nations should be considered for a redeveloped Racecourse ground if it happens in the future. Im certainly no fan of the WRU but fairplay to them they come up to North Wales on a regular basis & meet the public & play some games. The FAW on the other hand ignore North Wales a bit like the WAG/BBC Wales.
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Post by jono on Jun 30, 2017 18:20:38 GMT
Nothing arrogant about it. Ask England to play games in Bristol or Huddersfield! Why would they? There's a difference. Wrexham is the home of Welsh football. Bristol and Huddersfield have what to do with the English national side?
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Post by JC on Jun 30, 2017 22:12:10 GMT
With respect it has been said numerous times ''If the Racecourse ever gets back upto scratch''. There were/are proposals for a Millenium of the North for the Racecourse so if it were to happen, give the Racecourse a qualifier. Do sense some arrogance. (Well, we're from south Wales so it's easier for us so Cardiff is where it should stay. F*ck Wrexham.) So its wrong for me to want Wales to play down south because you asume im from south Wales and think its easier for me, but we should play up Wrexham to make it easier for the northern fans?
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Post by JC on Jun 30, 2017 22:25:24 GMT
Everyone should read the excellent book from Phil Stead "Red Dragons: The Story of Welsh Football" www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Red-Dragons-Story-Welsh-Football-Phil-Stead/1784612367Surely the qualifying games against smaller nations should be considered for a redeveloped Racecourse ground if it happens in the future. Im certainly no fan of the WRU but fairplay to them they come up to North Wales on a regular basis & meet the public & play some games. The FAW on the other hand ignore North Wales a bit like the WAG/BBC Wales. Qualifying games, or friendlies? Surely there's some advantage to playing at the same Stadium for every 'home' game for our players? But for friendlies I couldnt see why the FAW wouldnt consider it?
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Post by marsvolta on Jul 1, 2017 2:50:29 GMT
Everyone should read the excellent book from Phil Stead "Red Dragons: The Story of Welsh Football" www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Red-Dragons-Story-Welsh-Football-Phil-Stead/1784612367Surely the qualifying games against smaller nations should be considered for a redeveloped Racecourse ground if it happens in the future. Im certainly no fan of the WRU but fairplay to them they come up to North Wales on a regular basis & meet the public & play some games. The FAW on the other hand ignore North Wales a bit like the WAG/BBC Wales. The Wales Rugby team play some games up north? Really? Genuinely have no idea as I don't follow rugby and now live in England but I thought all games were in Cardiff.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 1, 2017 11:40:16 GMT
Nothing arrogant about it. Ask England to play games in Bristol or Huddersfield! Why would they? Many England fans are crying out for games to be spread out across the country, but I guess you missed that...
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 1, 2017 11:43:00 GMT
I'm on about the part that says the 'rightful home' is in the capital. The fact that the stadium is the most suited, doesn't mean it's right for the games to be played in Cardiff. It just makes it more convenient. Personally, I'd argue that the Welsh national team's rightful home is Wrexham but can accept that Cardiff has more suitable venues at this moment for matches to be played there. If the Racecourse ever gets back up to scratch (a big if, given the absence of help from the FAW and WAG), then I feel that 1 qualifier every campaign should be played up there. "The fact that the stadium is the most suited, doesn't mean it's right for the games to be played in Cardiff. It just makes it more convenient. Personally, I'd argue that the Welsh national team's rightful home is Wrexham" So even though it's the best football stadium, biggest City, has the best transport links doesn't make it right for games, but Wrexham's ground should be used because it was founded in a pub near the ground back in the 19th century? "If the Racecourse ever gets back up to scratch (a big if, given the absence of help from the FAW and WAG), then I feel that 1 qualifier every campaign should be played up there." You would want to move stadiums half way through qualifiers to a stadium with 10k capacity? Again, other than the fact it's up north I don't see why the Racecourse would be used? That's not what I said though is it? You're interpreting my words in a way to suit yourself. What I said is to play one qualifier up North, or at the very least 1 friendly a year to reward those from the North who make the long journey (and it is a long journey due to the shite transport links and roads) down South for every match. Those who live within close proximity to Cardiff will never understand I guess.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 1, 2017 11:51:51 GMT
Nothing arrogant about it. Ask England to play games in Bristol or Huddersfield! Why would they? Your comment that Cardiff is the rightful home of the Welsh national football team absolutely reeks of arrogance. Cardiff may be our home for the time being due to there being larger stadiums in the capital, but that isn't what makes a 'rightful home', whatever you choose to believe. It's astonishing that a number of you decide to show the middle finger to the North having any games due to the size of the stadium. While we're arguing numbers, why aren't you making a case for the Millennium to have a few games? Another example of you picking and choosing to suit yourself there.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 1, 2017 11:53:10 GMT
With respect it has been said numerous times ''If the Racecourse ever gets back upto scratch''. There were/are proposals for a Millenium of the North for the Racecourse so if it were to happen, give the Racecourse a qualifier. Do sense some arrogance. (Well, we're from south Wales so it's easier for us so Cardiff is where it should stay. F*ck Wrexham.) So its wrong for me to want Wales to play down south because you asume im from south Wales and think its easier for me, but we should play up Wrexham to make it easier for the northern fans? You want every game to be played down South. Jono's making a case for playing 1 game up North. There's a huge difference.
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