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Post by manulike on Jan 14, 2017 18:43:49 GMT
Indeed, it's the quality of the strikes as well. Let's say he carries on in this vein by March. Does he force his way into the starting 11 or will he be that quality impact sub we've been waiting for? Can't say that Cookie hasn't given him a chance. Had 25 minutes v Serbia in last game. Looked alright as well.
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Post by iot on Jan 14, 2017 18:44:24 GMT
Indeed, it's the quality of the strikes as well. Let's say he carries on in this vein by March. Does he force his way into the starting 11 or will he be that quality impact sub we've been waiting for? If he maintains this form for another couple of months he should definitely start!
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 14, 2017 18:52:15 GMT
Did well against Serbia and was unlucky Bale's shot against the post didn't fall to him. I doubt Tom will start but looks like he'll definitely have a part to play.
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Post by manulike on Jan 14, 2017 20:58:52 GMT
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Post by hookd on Jan 14, 2017 22:06:25 GMT
We finally have another talented forward player. We knew he had talent - pace, skills, finishing but he was so damn inconsistent!
He has put a run together there is no way he will go back to the previous levels of inconsistency (barring injury). He will at the very least end up a good championship player and has a good chance of becoming a Premiership player.
There is no way we were wrong about Huws either. Like Lawrence he has skill, technique, finishing ability and can run a midfield. He has been unlucky but you can;t shine at a young age on the international stage without being talented. He has been unlucky with managers and needs to get the hell out of Cardiff. We need him to come through as Ledley's replacement (hopefully an upgrade) as Ledley will be past his sell buy date over the next couple of years.
They are obviously more talented and at a younger age but the likes of Bale (by his manager/fans) and Ramsey (by fans) had a tough time of it when young, but we so the talent. I would rather have the talent with the opportunity to become good if I focused/believed in myself/worked hard than have little talent but a tremendous attitude, as I know which one has the most potential to do something outstanding.
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Post by hookd on Jan 14, 2017 22:08:52 GMT
PS - what a strike!
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Post by dlwilliams on Jan 14, 2017 22:18:50 GMT
We finally have another talented forward player. We knew he had talent - pace, skills, finishing but he was so damn inconsistent! He has put a run together there is no way he will go back to the previous levels of inconsistency (barring injury). He will at the very least end up a good championship player and has a good chance of becoming a Premiership player. There is no way we were wrong about Huws either. Like Lawrence he has skill, technique, finishing ability and can run a midfield. He has been unlucky but you can;t shine at a young age on the international stage without being talented. He has been unlucky with managers and needs to get the hell out of Cardiff. We need him to come through as Ledley's replacement (hopefully an upgrade) as Ledley will be past his sell buy date over the next couple of years. They are obviously more talented and at a younger age but the likes of Bale (by his manager/fans) and Ramsey (by fans) had a tough time of it when young, but we so the talent. I would rather have the talent with the opportunity to become good if I focused/believed in myself/worked hard than have little talent but a tremendous attitude, as I know which one has the most potential to do something outstanding. Spot on. This nonsense being spouted by Cardiff fans that he's not up to it or whatever just because he didn't play that well last week is ridiculous. I didn't see the game myself but from what I've heard and read, no Cardiff player came out of it well. And how is Huws meant to be at his best when he hasn't even been in squads, never the mind the first XI?! I feel sorry for him that he was just thrown in last week without being match fit and expected to turn in an exceptional performance. Cardiff fans criticised him specifically on the point that he lacked effort and endeavour. Now, like I said, I didn't see the game so don't feel that qualified to comment, but alleging that a player lacked the effort must not be confused with being part of a poor side and subsequently not being able to play that well because your teammates were so shite!
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 15, 2017 12:40:27 GMT
Great strikes yesterday, Coleman bound to be thinking about him having a part to play in Dublin.
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Post by manulike on Jan 15, 2017 21:18:34 GMT
For anyone that still hasn't seen the Tom Lawrance Master-Show ;-)
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Post by bracklablue72 on Jan 16, 2017 7:40:23 GMT
We finally have another talented forward player. We knew he had talent - pace, skills, finishing but he was so damn inconsistent! He has put a run together there is no way he will go back to the previous levels of inconsistency (barring injury). He will at the very least end up a good championship player and has a good chance of becoming a Premiership player. There is no way we were wrong about Huws either. Like Lawrence he has skill, technique, finishing ability and can run a midfield. He has been unlucky but you can;t shine at a young age on the international stage without being talented. He has been unlucky with managers and needs to get the hell out of Cardiff. We need him to come through as Ledley's replacement (hopefully an upgrade) as Ledley will be past his sell buy date over the next couple of years. They are obviously more talented and at a younger age but the likes of Bale (by his manager/fans) and Ramsey (by fans) had a tough time of it when young, but we so the talent. I would rather have the talent with the opportunity to become good if I focused/believed in myself/worked hard than have little talent but a tremendous attitude, as I know which one has the most potential to do something outstanding. Spot on. This nonsense being spouted by Cardiff fans that he's not up to it or whatever just because he didn't play that well last week is ridiculous. I didn't see the game myself but from what I've heard and read, no Cardiff player came out of it well. And how is Huws meant to be at his best when he hasn't even been in squads, never the mind the first XI?! I feel sorry for him that he was just thrown in last week without being match fit and expected to turn in an exceptional performance. Cardiff fans criticised him specifically on the point that he lacked effort and endeavour. Now, like I said, I didn't see the game so don't feel that qualified to comment, but alleging that a player lacked the effort must not be confused with being part of a poor side and subsequently not being able to play that well because your teammates were so shite! He did lack effort and endeavour, really disappointing from a Cardiff and Wales point of view, given that the Cardiff view and Wales view are not mutually exclusive .. You're right insofar as the team generally playing shite during this game and that emyr hasn't been given a chance , particularly under Trollope, but no one knows what goes on in training and whether he is applying himself sufficiently or not! What I will take exception with is that nobody has been saying hues isn't up to it based on one appearance, all Cardiff fans want him to do well! I also agree with you when you admitted you didn't watch the game and are therefore not particularly qualified to comment
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Post by eppingblue on Jan 16, 2017 10:50:20 GMT
I've said it before, I wouldn't judge any players under Ole , Slade or Trollope. I thought Lawrence did OK but it never quite went his way, there were few good long shots which had they found the net would have brought a similar reaction to that on Saturday. Great that he's found his form and confidence now, shame for us that it wasn't last year but to be honest we were a shambles. Warnock has steadied the ship and while doing that he was unlikely to depend on the luxury of Huws. Good quality player but not for the trenches. With a bit of luck as we pull clear he'll get a better chance in a settled team. Again don't judge him on the isolated cup game, our whole approach to that game was a farce.
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Post by biwmares on Jan 17, 2017 19:10:19 GMT
The FA Cup replay between Ipswich & Lincoln is on live later on BBC1 so we can see Lawrence in action.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 17, 2017 21:02:50 GMT
Ipswich are bloody awful. Their only tactic is 'give it to Lawrence', which Lincoln are dealing with no problem. Saying that he made himself a good chance and probably should have scored.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 23:00:41 GMT
Definitely didn't look international standard on tonight's showing. Awful cross in to set up the Lincoln winner although to be fair how did Ipswich go from taking an attacking free kick to then having the guy taking the free kick (Lawrence) as their last line of defence?!
I suspect Ipswich will pull the trigger on McCarthy after that shambles.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jan 17, 2017 23:32:25 GMT
Definitely didn't look international standard on tonight's showing. Awful cross in to set up the Lincoln winner although to be fair how did Ipswich go from taking an attacking free kick to then having the guy taking the free kick (Lawrence) as their last line of defence?! I suspect Ipswich will pull the trigger on McCarthy after that shambles. Had a quick look at one of the Ipswich Town fan forums and it has gone into meltdown tonight.
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Post by zenith on Jan 20, 2017 11:55:52 GMT
Lawrence has been in superb form for Ipswich recently, and long may it continue. Great to know that Robson-Kanu and Vokes have some competition for the man up top, wouldn't be surprised if he started against Ireland if these type of performances are consistent.
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Post by zenith on Jan 28, 2017 16:21:26 GMT
Scored again this afternoon!
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 28, 2017 19:13:06 GMT
Right he's got to play in Dublin. Time for a back four minus Taylor with Lawrence Ramsey Bale behind Vokes.
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Post by manulike on Jan 28, 2017 21:02:21 GMT
The kid has certainly set the month of January on fire. Aaron is certainly capable of playing deeper - but I am sure he wont like it! If Bale isn't playing, we may well have to go with it
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Post by hookd on Jan 28, 2017 21:40:51 GMT
When you are you are young with talent like Lawrence you need to be backed and supported. He has had that with his loan spells and has finally got that confidence which should see him progress and reach his potential.
Unfortunately the exact opposite is happening with Emyr Huws and ironically it is happening at our capital city club!
With of course have seen he has great technique and can sore spectacular goals too. He seems a pretty complete player. You can't play against Holland and look good at a young age without talent. HOW THE HELL IS HE NOT EVEN ON THE BENCH OF A POOR CARDIFF CITY SQUAD. It is totally bizarre and really annoying. We could have had another solid midfield option for the Ireland game had he been playing since the start of the season. The guy must feel devastated with how his career is panning out.
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Post by haruki on Jan 29, 2017 9:51:38 GMT
Right he's got to play in Dublin. Time for a back four minus Taylor with Lawrence Ramsey Bale behind Vokes. Personally id go for 1 of the following - Ramsey deeper Ledley out. Ramsey and Allen in a midfield 2 doesn't look solid enough to me, we could get steam rollered down the middle of the park.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 15:37:10 GMT
Personally id go for 1 of the following - Ramsey deeper Ledley out. Ramsey and Allen in a midfield 2 doesn't look solid enough to me, we could get steam rollered down the middle of the park. Or we could dominate the ball so much that ROI don't get a kick?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 15:57:37 GMT
Ramsey and Allen in a midfield 2 doesn't look solid enough to me, we could get steam rollered down the middle of the park. Or we could dominate the ball so much that ROI don't get a kick? What should he play? What will he play? Or some variation thereon, but basically that same side he seems intent on bludgeoning to death my sanity with. Job very nearly done, tbh.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jan 30, 2017 12:17:13 GMT
We could do with Lawrence at Palace, let's hope BFS signs him.
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Post by manulike on Jan 30, 2017 12:30:31 GMT
We could do with Lawrence at Palace, let's hope BFS signs him. As far as I understand it, Lawrence is committed contractually up until June at Ipswich. Mick McCarthy repeated that a few times. How on earth did you lads loose to City? Shocking refereeing! I assume signing Van Aanholt, means you gave up the chase after Ben Davies?
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jan 30, 2017 12:58:16 GMT
We could do with Lawrence at Palace, let's hope BFS signs him. As far as I understand it, Lawrence is committed contractually up until June at Ipswich. Mick McCarthy repeated that a few times. How on earth did you lads loose to City? Shocking refereeing! I assume signing Van Aanholt, means you gave up the chase after Ben Davies? City were very good, much better than before Xmas in the league match bro. Yes looks like it,but would like BFS to sign Davies as well. All the big teams get the refereeing decisions against us.
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Post by dai on Jan 31, 2017 12:09:40 GMT
Surely has to start against Ireland when the likes of HRK/Vokes haven't really been playing, and Bale (fingers crossed) only just back from injury.
Chuffed for the guy.
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Post by iot on Jan 31, 2017 13:15:23 GMT
Surely has to start against Ireland when the likes of HRK/Vokes haven't really been playing, and Bale (fingers crossed) only just back from injury. Chuffed for the guy. Perhaps, but hopefully not in place of HRK/Vokes because he's been very hit and miss as the frontman.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 13:29:53 GMT
Surely has to start against Ireland when the likes of HRK/Vokes haven't really been playing, and Bale (fingers crossed) only just back from injury. Chuffed for the guy. Perhaps, but hopefully not in place of HRK/Vokes because he's been very hit and miss as the frontman. I don't think we should leave out a player playing with that much confidence - let's hope he continues for at least another 2 months.
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Post by haruki on Jan 31, 2017 13:47:43 GMT
The difficult thing for Lawrence is that he is probably best suited to Bale's role in the side and whilst he has scored some good goals in the Championship I woudldn't say his form will be leading to Cookie thinking of a sudden change in formation
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