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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 31, 2017 14:40:35 GMT
If Lawrence carries on like this Coleman has to find room for him. While it is unlikely to happen, he did change formation a couple of times during the last campaign so you never know. I've made my preference pretty clear:
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Post by alarch on Jan 31, 2017 16:06:50 GMT
From what I've seen Lawrence is great out wide, but not so great through the middle. Not being a fan of Ipswich, that may have changed, but it would be reckless to change things just to accommodate Lawerence. If we play a 4-2-3-1 then he certainly has a strong claim to playing out wide on the left - but in the 3-4-2-1 formation that has become the new default it would be difficult to argue that either Bale or Ramsey should make way to accommodate him. And there is nothing to suggest that he would make a good number 9. In all probability Lawrence will be used as an impact player, and (assuming our strongest XI is available) I wouldn't complain about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:21:14 GMT
From what I've seen Lawrence is great out wide, but not so great through the middle. Not being a fan of Ipswich, that may have changed, but it would be reckless to change things just to accommodate Lawerence. If we play a 4-2-3-1 then he certainly has a strong claim to playing out wide on the left - but in the 3-4-2-1 formation that has become the new default it would be difficult to argue that either Bale or Ramsey should make way to accommodate him. And there is nothing to suggest that he would make a good number 9. In all probability Lawrence will be used as an impact player, and (assuming our strongest XI is available) I wouldn't complain about that. The formation shouldn't be changed to accomodate Lawrence, but because it's simply awful, and puts us on the back foot for large periods, even against teams who are poorer player for player. Supposedly the formation on which Coleman settled (despite us playing better with four at the back in early qualifiers) was intended to exploit our limited recources in attacking areas. Whether or not that is true, with Lawrence establishing himself as a consistent first team player, this is no longer an argument. Lawrence and Bale on the wings would give us the pace and width we desperately need in the final third, and end the misery of Taylor and Gunter attempting to provide quality service from the wings. |
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Post by zenith on Jan 31, 2017 21:55:12 GMT
Injured. No idea how long for but bad news for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 22:00:21 GMT
Injured. No idea how long for but bad news for us. Seems the good luck that stayed with us for the Euros has dissipated and we are back to the normal order of things. Bet Joe Ledley is fine. |
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Post by manulike on Jan 31, 2017 22:01:10 GMT
Injured. No idea how long for but bad news for us. What a sad day for Welsh football. Ramsey and Lawrence both injured. Those calling for Ben Woodburn may well even get to see him play in dublin |
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Post by zenith on Jan 31, 2017 22:04:20 GMT
On the plus for us, Ben Davies is going to get some decent game time as Vertonghen is already out and Rose has followed suit tonight.
I find it amazing that Chris Gunter has played nearly every single game that he has been available for since leaving Spurs all those years ago, I don't think the guy has ever been injured. Touch wood.
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Post by hookd on Jan 31, 2017 22:41:27 GMT
On the plus for us, Ben Davies is going to get some decent game time as Vertonghen is already out and Rose has followed suit tonight. I find it amazing that Chris Gunter has played nearly every single game that he has been available for since leaving Spurs all those years ago, I don't think the guy has ever been injured. Touch wood. Shame he did not have as much quality as he does toughness! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 2, 2017 10:59:34 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Feb 2, 2017 12:23:17 GMT
Great news about Lawrence, think his pace could trouble the Irish defence
As for Gunter, yes he's know world beater but must be one of our most consistent performers and can't remember him having many poor games. Looks like he could be first to 100 caps as still no challenger really pushing
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Post by manulike on Feb 2, 2017 22:16:03 GMT
It will be great to see Huws and Lawrence combine together and get to know each other's game.
Cookie has been pretty persistent in picking them both ever since the Holland friendly, so obviously he sees something in them that Cardiff City didn't...
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Post by ontheroadagain on Feb 4, 2017 15:49:20 GMT
On the score sheet again today towards the end of the first half. Could it be a tap in? Edit: Not a tap in but the assist is credited to Huws!  |
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Post by dlwilliams on Feb 4, 2017 15:49:26 GMT
He's done it again! Ipswich 1-0 up against Reading.
And even better, assisted by Emyr Huws!
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Post by manulike on Feb 4, 2017 15:51:03 GMT
He's done it again! Ipswich 1-0 up against Reading. And even better, assisted by Emyr Huws! After enduring the horror of a rambo-less Arsenal, that is the best news I have had all day! i just hope Gunts gets an equaliser to calm himself down ;-) |
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Post by dlwilliams on Feb 4, 2017 15:57:15 GMT
Great to see Huws start. He only signed on Tuesday, remember. Sounds like he's been heavily involved, as well:
Lawerence's direct opponent appears to be one Mr. Gunter. Sounds like Lawrence is winning the battle:
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Post by ontheroadagain on Feb 4, 2017 16:00:01 GMT
No doubt Lawrence will remind Gunter of this when the squad meets up again.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Feb 4, 2017 16:27:58 GMT
Lawrence gets a second. Boy is he on fire.
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Post by dlwilliams on Feb 4, 2017 16:37:32 GMT
The argument against him starting in Dublin seems to be getting weaker by the goal
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Post by zenith on Feb 4, 2017 17:29:08 GMT
The argument against him starting in Dublin seems to be getting weaker by the goal You're right, if he doesn't start it's criminal the way it is at the moment. |
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Post by sleepy on Feb 4, 2017 18:57:46 GMT
Well I thought he was injured so even better.
Likely be an impact sub in Dublin though I'd expect (unless Bale is unfit in which case he'll start).
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 4, 2017 20:07:08 GMT
Lawrence needs to start. He's the most inform goal scorer we have. HRK gets barely any time and Vokes recently is a second half sub for Burnley.
However, could Ledley be push out the starting XI with Lawrence, HRK/Vokes and Bale as a front 3?
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Post by zenith on Feb 4, 2017 20:27:51 GMT
Lawrence needs to start. He's the most inform goal scorer we have. HRK gets barely any time and Vokes recently is a second half sub for Burnley. However, could Ledley be push out the starting XI with Lawrence, HRK/Vokes and Bale as a front 3? Ledley is very underrated for Wales, he has to start for me because he is the main part of that engine, as he proved against Serbia. Joe Allen is the other half but with that touch of flair and class. Both fundamental for the Ireland game. Either we drop to 4 at the back again or Vokes/Kanu sacrificed for a 5. Lawrence for me simply has to start the game. |
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 4, 2017 20:40:56 GMT
Lawrence needs to start. He's the most inform goal scorer we have. HRK gets barely any time and Vokes recently is a second half sub for Burnley. However, could Ledley be push out the starting XI with Lawrence, HRK/Vokes and Bale as a front 3? Ledley is very underrated for Wales, he has to start for me because he is the main part of that engine, as he proved against Serbia. Joe Allen is the other half but with that touch of flair and class. Both fundamental for the Ireland game. Either we drop to 4 at the back again or Vokes/Kanu sacrificed for a 5. Lawrence for me simply has to start the game. Good point, Ledley does a very good job. I can't see us going to a back 4, it's going to be interesting. Surely Coleman is of, or becoming of, the same mind-frame that Lawrence must start? |
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Post by zenith on Feb 4, 2017 20:55:14 GMT
Ledley is very underrated for Wales, he has to start for me because he is the main part of that engine, as he proved against Serbia. Joe Allen is the other half but with that touch of flair and class. Both fundamental for the Ireland game. Either we drop to 4 at the back again or Vokes/Kanu sacrificed for a 5. Lawrence for me simply has to start the game. Good point, Ledley does a very good job. I can't see us going to a back 4, it's going to be interesting. Surely Coleman is of, or becoming of, the same mind-frame that Lawrence must start? Coleman surprised me a lot during the last campaign, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was a back four again. Seen Taylor wasn't in the Villa squad today, I assume lacking fitness? |
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 4, 2017 21:02:09 GMT
Good point, Ledley does a very good job. I can't see us going to a back 4, it's going to be interesting. Surely Coleman is of, or becoming of, the same mind-frame that Lawrence must start? Coleman surprised me a lot during the last campaign, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was a back four again. Seen Taylor wasn't in the Villa squad today, I assume lacking fitness? His last game for the Swans was 3rd Jan, however he got injured in training with a broken cheekbone so he could still be recovering? Looked okay in the photos of him with a Villa shirt though. |
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Post by biwmares on Feb 4, 2017 21:21:33 GMT
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Post by zenith on Feb 4, 2017 22:47:34 GMT
He looks gold. That pass for his second goal was exquisite 👌 |
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Post by manulike on Feb 4, 2017 23:00:51 GMT
I see young Tom has his goal celebration down to a T.
Looking forward to see him do it at the Aviva ;-)
Emyr Huws was awarded MOTM, which is amazing, seeing that he hasn't played for 6 months.
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Post by steelrod on Feb 5, 2017 9:32:37 GMT
I see young Tom has his goal celebration down to a T. Looking forward to see him do it at the Aviva ;-) Emyr Huws was awarded MOTM, which is amazing, seeing that he hasn't played for 6 months. Was at Portman Road yesterday. First time I've seen Lawrence other than bit parts for Wales and U21's for Man Utd. Ok it was Reading, but TL was devastating. He looked like scoring every time he got the ball. His control of the ball at pace is top class and he's now getting the finishing to go with it. To be fair, Emyr Huws, who was also impressive was feeding him some great balls. If those two click then Ipswich could really do something. Two points here. Cardiff City had TL there for most of last season and barely played him. Let him go, then bizarrely wanted him back last week. Emyr Huws was just ignored. What a sink of a club that is..... Secondly, Wales is lucky to posses two potentially top class players here, which bodes well for forthcoming campaigns. I fully expect to see both of them gracing the Premiership within the next 16 months. |
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Post by hookd on Feb 5, 2017 10:14:19 GMT
I see young Tom has his goal celebration down to a T. Looking forward to see him do it at the Aviva ;-) Emyr Huws was awarded MOTM, which is amazing, seeing that he hasn't played for 6 months. Cardiff City are a disgrace! How is it I suspected that Huws would hit the ground running given the quality he has expressed every time I have watched him? What is it with this club treating Welsh players poorly? That Huws was deemed not to be worthy of even a space in the squad of that collection of journeymen is beyond bizarre, it is arguably a case of self harm! Who knows - Huws could have made a difference in our qualifying campaign if he had been allowed to play for his club and allowed to secureform and fitness? You have to think those 2 home draws have damaged us. I am sure you remember the horror of Cotterril little montage for the Georgia game and how ineffectual our midfield and players like David Edwards were. PS - Thanks you Mick McCarthy! |
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