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Post by dai on Oct 17, 2021 16:45:56 GMT
Lawrence had another good game, unlucky not to score 7/10 from me. Captins arm band has surprisingly done him good and been consistently good in performances Would like to see him back in our squad. Could be ideal up front against Belarus at home. |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 17, 2021 18:24:28 GMT
Lawrence had another good game, unlucky not to score 7/10 from me. Captins arm band has surprisingly done him good and been consistently good in performances Would like to see him back in our squad. Could be ideal up front against Belarus at home. Totally agree and with brooks illness we unfortunately have space for another winger |
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Post by manulike on Oct 19, 2021 14:27:53 GMT
Would like to see him back in our squad. Could be ideal up front against Belarus at home. Totally agree and with brooks illness we unfortunately have space for another winger I am in #Team.Tom |
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Post by dai on Oct 19, 2021 18:19:23 GMT
Starting again up top tonight.
Hint hint page.
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Post by welshrover on Oct 19, 2021 19:15:34 GMT
Right on cue he scores!!
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Post by saturn9 on Oct 19, 2021 19:16:36 GMT
Makes it 1-0, could score half a dozen goals between now and November, but sadly won't be included for reasons unknown.
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Post by dai on Oct 19, 2021 20:16:05 GMT
Goal and an assist. If he doesn't make the next squad, then Page is........oh what's the point, he won't anyway.
Perhaps we should make a new thread based on players who SHOULD be getting called up?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 20, 2021 7:59:36 GMT
I don't think a few goals from Lawrence merits a call up and it's not outrageous if he isn't selected. Would he get anywhere near the pitch as a wide forward for us? We have Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan and Sorba ahead of him now. Lawrence's big problem was always consistency too - he always had flurries of goals but across a season he's rarely met the hype. If he ends the season with 10-15 goals in the league then you can start moaning at Page for not bringing him into the squad. But until then he's not getting in and he's not getting anywhere near the pitch, that's just reality
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 20, 2021 8:32:18 GMT
I don't think a few goals from Lawrence merits a call up and it's not outrageous if he isn't selected. Would he get anywhere near the pitch as a wide forward for us? We have Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan and Sorba ahead of him now. Lawrence's big problem was always consistency too - he always had flurries of goals but across a season he's rarely met the hype. If he ends the season with 10-15 goals in the league then you can start moaning at Page for not bringing him into the squad. But until then he's not getting in and he's not getting anywhere near the pitch, that's just reality in the squad at least? Wilson who i was better at czech game but poor in estonia , sorba and brennan had good start but not as experience. so Lawrence maybe have been a good alternative? constancy, has been his down fall but this season playing his best consistent football in varies positions. i assume he not being picked is due to him unable to drive to games ? but as usual... Tom Lawrence comeds with alot of  ? marks |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 20, 2021 8:37:35 GMT
I don't think a few goals from Lawrence merits a call up and it's not outrageous if he isn't selected. Would he get anywhere near the pitch as a wide forward for us? We have Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan and Sorba ahead of him now. Lawrence's big problem was always consistency too - he always had flurries of goals but across a season he's rarely met the hype. If he ends the season with 10-15 goals in the league then you can start moaning at Page for not bringing him into the squad. But until then he's not getting in and he's not getting anywhere near the pitch, that's just reality Definite argument to include lawrence in the squad and probably the most important one for me is game time - hence fitness. One thing about our squad at the moment is we are lacking players who are playing regularly. For that reason he is IN!  |
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Post by dai on Oct 20, 2021 8:47:15 GMT
I don't think a few goals from Lawrence merits a call up and it's not outrageous if he isn't selected. Would he get anywhere near the pitch as a wide forward for us? We have Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan and Sorba ahead of him now. Lawrence's big problem was always consistency too - he always had flurries of goals but across a season he's rarely met the hype. If he ends the season with 10-15 goals in the league then you can start moaning at Page for not bringing him into the squad. But until then he's not getting in and he's not getting anywhere near the pitch, that's just reality I'm actually suggesting playing him up top, because apart from Moore, everyone else does a shit job there. Regarding Lawrence's 'big problem' with consistency, most of our forwards consistently poor in attack for nearly 2 years. Wilson in particular either looks great or completely anonymous. Personally think it IS outrageous that we're ignoring a championship regular, striker, captain and proven goalscorer when we're struggling so much going forward. I'm not saying he's the messiah, but we need to try a few different things in attack now. |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 20, 2021 8:53:56 GMT
I don't think a few goals from Lawrence merits a call up and it's not outrageous if he isn't selected. Would he get anywhere near the pitch as a wide forward for us? We have Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan and Sorba ahead of him now. Lawrence's big problem was always consistency too - he always had flurries of goals but across a season he's rarely met the hype. If he ends the season with 10-15 goals in the league then you can start moaning at Page for not bringing him into the squad. But until then he's not getting in and he's not getting anywhere near the pitch, that's just reality I'm actually suggesting playing him up top, because apart from Moore, everyone else does a shit job there. Regarding Lawrence's 'big problem' with consistency, most of our forwards consistently poor in attack for nearly 2 years. Wilson in particular either looks great or completely anonymous. Personally think it IS outrageous that we're ignoring a championship regular, striker, captain and proven goalscorer when we're struggling so much going forward. I'm not saying he's the messiah, but we need to try a few different things in attack now. Totally agree, if there was another player captaining and playing regularly for a championship side at the moment we'd all we screaming for him to be called up. Forget about already 23 appearance and 3 goals for wales. I imagine most of those appearance have been from the bench too. |
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Post by iot on Oct 20, 2021 8:59:18 GMT
I think the gripes about his previous squad omissions are off the mark, if not predictable. He was in a couple of squads before the euros when we had some injuries and started under Page against Mexico. He had a very poor season last year (just 3 goals) and so missed out on the euros squad. Yes, we did take Colwill, but that was clearly just for his development as a young prospect and no wide forward were going to get gametime ahead of bale, ramsey, wilson, and brooks. So I don't think there's much merit in the complaints about that omission. He was then unavailable for the international window in September as confirmed by Rooney. He didn't make the last squad, but again we had several players ahead of him and he had only scored one goal up to that point.
Having said that, I do think he deserves a call-up this time given that he appears to be playing well much more consistently and is playing more centrally, so might be in contention for some gametime against estonia. I suspect Page will pick him and I see no reason to believe there's been an agenda against him. Just some moaners doing their usual moaning
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Post by njdragon on Oct 20, 2021 9:30:44 GMT
I think the gripes about his previous squad omissions are off the mark, if not predictable. He was in a couple of squads before the euros when we had some injuries and started under Page against Mexico. He had a very poor season last year (just 3 goals) and so missed out on the euros squad. Yes, we did take Colwill, but that was clearly just for his development as a young prospect and no wide forward were going to get gametime ahead of bale, ramsey, wilson, and brooks. So I don't think there's much merit in the complaints about that omission. He was then unavailable for the international window in September as confirmed by Rooney. He didn't make the last squad, but again we had several players ahead of him and he had only scored one goal up to that point. Having said that, I do think he deserves a call-up this time given that he appears to be playing well much more consistently and is playing more centrally, so might be in contention for some gametime against estonia. I suspect Page will pick him and I see no reason to believe there's been an agenda against him. Just some moaners doing their usual moaning i was reading your post thinking ok fair enough then you have to write on the end just some moaners doing their usual moaning FFS This is a forum we dont all have to agree, its not moaning its just someone having a different point of view to you |
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Post by dai on Oct 20, 2021 9:33:54 GMT
I think the gripes about his previous squad omissions are off the mark, if not predictable. He was in a couple of squads before the euros when we had some injuries and started under Page against Mexico. He had a very poor season last year (just 3 goals) and so missed out on the euros squad. Yes, we did take Colwill, but that was clearly just for his development as a young prospect and no wide forward were going to get gametime ahead of bale, ramsey, wilson, and brooks. So I don't think there's much merit in the complaints about that omission. He was then unavailable for the international window in September as confirmed by Rooney. He didn't make the last squad, but again we had several players ahead of him and he had only scored one goal up to that point. Having said that, I do think he deserves a call-up this time given that he appears to be playing well much more consistently and is playing more centrally, so might be in contention for some gametime against estonia. I suspect Page will pick him and I see no reason to believe there's been an agenda against him. Just some moaners doing their usual moaningJust some Page defenders doing their usual Page defending. Some people on this forum have this elitist mentality when it comes to Welsh football opinions. |
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Post by iot on Oct 20, 2021 10:02:57 GMT
I think the gripes about his previous squad omissions are off the mark, if not predictable. He was in a couple of squads before the euros when we had some injuries and started under Page against Mexico. He had a very poor season last year (just 3 goals) and so missed out on the euros squad. Yes, we did take Colwill, but that was clearly just for his development as a young prospect and no wide forward were going to get gametime ahead of bale, ramsey, wilson, and brooks. So I don't think there's much merit in the complaints about that omission. He was then unavailable for the international window in September as confirmed by Rooney. He didn't make the last squad, but again we had several players ahead of him and he had only scored one goal up to that point. Having said that, I do think he deserves a call-up this time given that he appears to be playing well much more consistently and is playing more centrally, so might be in contention for some gametime against estonia. I suspect Page will pick him and I see no reason to believe there's been an agenda against him. Just some moaners doing their usual moaning i was reading your post thinking ok fair enough then you have to write on the end just some moaners doing their usual moaning FFS This is a forum we dont all have to agree, its not moaning its just someone having a different point of view to you Fair enough, but surely you can see how constant negativity will grate on people? I've criticised Page several times, but it feels like some people have a bit of an agenda and try to find ways of having a dig. This is just another example |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Oct 20, 2021 10:12:18 GMT
Good that we've got someone putting their hands up for inclusion.
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Post by njdragon on Oct 20, 2021 10:52:15 GMT
i was reading your post thinking ok fair enough then you have to write on the end just some moaners doing their usual moaning FFS This is a forum we dont all have to agree, its not moaning its just someone having a different point of view to you Fair enough, but surely you can see how constant negativity will grate on people? I've criticised Page several times, but it feels like some people have a bit of an agenda and try to find ways of having a dig. This is just another example look some people dont like him, its always been the way whatever manager we had people have their opinions, i loved speed, hated tosh, didnt like coleman until he kickstarted his management with us, i loved giggs - page im unsure about think he could do well but i dont think we should sack him yet. Would have liked the FAW to have had to balls and got someone like cooper in but its always been the case that they hardly go for what we perceive could be the best person. If you dont like them you'lll find every opportunity to pull them up and vice versa - we are not moaning its a difference of opinion. None of us are managers at the end of the day we all chat rubbish |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 20, 2021 10:56:39 GMT
what ever happened to storm if we talk about moaners - quite controversial but he made some good points.
Everything is opinion but i do like the posts of texan for instance and also flyn fan was a good poster on here - also alarch! seem to have more of an inside knowledge - also Ds for obvious reasons.
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Post by dai on Oct 20, 2021 11:10:02 GMT
what ever happened to storm if we talk about moaners - quite controversial but he made some good points. Everything is opinion but i do like the posts of texan for instance and also flyn fan was a good poster on here - also alarch! seem to have more of an inside knowledge - also Ds for obvious reasons. I may be wrong, but I think he goes by the name of 'insertname' now........... If that isn't him, well they sure sound alike! |
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 20, 2021 11:35:51 GMT
what ever happened to storm if we talk about moaners - quite controversial but he made some good points. Everything is opinion but i do like the posts of texan for instance and also flyn fan was a good poster on here - also alarch! seem to have more of an inside knowledge - also Ds for obvious reasons. Haha, forgot about Storm. If he came back he’d make Dai look like a motivational speaker in comparison haha. |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 20, 2021 11:43:09 GMT
what ever happened to storm if we talk about moaners - quite controversial but he made some good points. Everything is opinion but i do like the posts of texan for instance and also flyn fan was a good poster on here - also alarch! seem to have more of an inside knowledge - also Ds for obvious reasons. Haha, forgot about Storm. If he came back he’d make Dai look like a motivational speaker in comparison haha.  |
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Post by Albert on Oct 20, 2021 11:51:17 GMT
what ever happened to storm if we talk about moaners - quite controversial but he made some good points. Everything is opinion but i do like the posts of texan for instance and also flyn fan was a good poster on here - also alarch! seem to have more of an inside knowledge - also Ds for obvious reasons. Haha, forgot about Storm. If he came back he’d make Dai look like a motivational speaker in comparison haha. Still on here is he not ? Just under a different name I thought . Deleted himself after we failed to qualify for Russia I think and then came back under a different username about a year later |
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Post by dai on Oct 20, 2021 12:03:05 GMT
what ever happened to storm if we talk about moaners - quite controversial but he made some good points. Everything is opinion but i do like the posts of texan for instance and also flyn fan was a good poster on here - also alarch! seem to have more of an inside knowledge - also Ds for obvious reasons. Haha, forgot about Storm. If he came back he’d make Dai look like a motivational speaker in comparison haha. How did you know what I do for a living? |
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Post by cadno on Oct 20, 2021 12:08:16 GMT
Bring Lawrence into the squad yes, Moore is out of the Belarus game isn't he?
I'd bring someone like Vokes / Doidge in too, they're not at Moore's level but they're the next best thing in terms of a target man. We might need that option if it's still 0-0 with 25 minutes to go.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 20, 2021 12:56:52 GMT
I don't think a few goals from Lawrence merits a call up and it's not outrageous if he isn't selected. Would he get anywhere near the pitch as a wide forward for us? We have Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan and Sorba ahead of him now. Lawrence's big problem was always consistency too - he always had flurries of goals but across a season he's rarely met the hype. If he ends the season with 10-15 goals in the league then you can start moaning at Page for not bringing him into the squad. But until then he's not getting in and he's not getting anywhere near the pitch, that's just reality I'm actually suggesting playing him up top, because apart from Moore, everyone else does a shit job there. Regarding Lawrence's 'big problem' with consistency, most of our forwards consistently poor in attack for nearly 2 years. Wilson in particular either looks great or completely anonymous. Personally think it IS outrageous that we're ignoring a championship regular, striker, captain and proven goalscorer when we're struggling so much going forward. I'm not saying he's the messiah, but we need to try a few different things in attack now. It's an interesting idea playing him up top if he can develop into a number 9. Out of all our wingers you could argue he does have one of the best eyes for goal. Although we did play him up front in the qualifying campaign for the 2020 Euros and everyone was calling for us to drop that system and bring in an actual striker |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 20, 2021 12:58:18 GMT
I don't think a few goals from Lawrence merits a call up and it's not outrageous if he isn't selected. Would he get anywhere near the pitch as a wide forward for us? We have Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan and Sorba ahead of him now. Lawrence's big problem was always consistency too - he always had flurries of goals but across a season he's rarely met the hype. If he ends the season with 10-15 goals in the league then you can start moaning at Page for not bringing him into the squad. But until then he's not getting in and he's not getting anywhere near the pitch, that's just reality Definite argument to include lawrence in the squad and probably the most important one for me is game time - hence fitness. One thing about our squad at the moment is we are lacking players who are playing regularly. For that reason he is IN! In his position though I don't think that's the case? Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan & Sorba all regulars this season If the idea is to include him as a striker then I can see the benefit, is he actually getting regular minutes as a striker though? News to me if he is |
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Post by insertname on Oct 20, 2021 14:10:32 GMT
Haha, forgot about Storm. If he came back he’d make Dai look like a motivational speaker in comparison haha. Still on here is he not ? Just under a different name I thought . Deleted himself after we failed to qualify for Russia I think and then came back under a different username about a year later Yep, my day job these days is giving dai life coaching advice on how to enjoy qualification and winning nations league groups. How times have changed from the Tosh years 😂 |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 20, 2021 14:21:21 GMT
Definite argument to include lawrence in the squad and probably the most important one for me is game time - hence fitness. One thing about our squad at the moment is we are lacking players who are playing regularly. For that reason he is IN! In his position though I don't think that's the case? Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan & Sorba all regulars this season If the idea is to include him as a striker then I can see the benefit, is he actually getting regular minutes as a striker though? News to me if he is Well he played last night as a striker with a goal and an assist, our only other options are harris and roberts. |
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Post by iot on Oct 20, 2021 15:15:14 GMT
Definite argument to include lawrence in the squad and probably the most important one for me is game time - hence fitness. One thing about our squad at the moment is we are lacking players who are playing regularly. For that reason he is IN! In his position though I don't think that's the case? Bale, James, Wilson, Brennan & Sorba all regulars this season If the idea is to include him as a striker then I can see the benefit, is he actually getting regular minutes as a striker though? News to me if he is welshramdcfc will know more than me, but I know he's played at least a couple of games as their main cf and done quite well, including both games in which he's scored. |
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