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Post by insertname on Apr 10, 2022 17:27:03 GMT
Edit: error when quoting
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Post by manulike on Apr 10, 2022 17:30:23 GMT
Rooney says in the article it's something from when Page managed him for the U21s? I'd be surprised if that was true Either way, I think this is just Rooney trying to drum up interest and put a few million more onto Lawrence's price tag. Derby will need to sell their best assets, and saying you have a Welsh international probably helps. Rooney specifically mentions that Lawrence is one of Wales' best players too - seems like that's the motive I find that hard to believe, Lawrence was about 23 by the time Page took over the under 21s wasn't he? Fair point. Page appointed U21 manager in March 2017 as per Wiki...
Still. Roo is right. Lawrence is the man!
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 10, 2022 20:44:08 GMT
He was annonamous yesterday, all Derby's attacking play centered around Ebiowei.
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 11, 2022 6:41:37 GMT
Derby County manager Wayne Rooney says Wales boss Robert Page needs to "get over" his "history" with Tom Lawrence and recall the Rams captain. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61058712Wonder what the 'history is'? Strange one this as It’s hard to work out when their paths would have crossed for them to have any ‘history’. Saying that, Rooney has been firing off all sorts this last week or so with comments on Ronaldo and his call for Saturday’s ref to be banned and fined. To be fair, at least the article lists the correct players that have been picked ahead of Lawrence in Bale, Moore, James, Wilson Johnson and Matondo. It would have been easy for them to look on social media and say that players like Williams and Vaulks have been selected instead of him, despite playing in different positions to Lawrence.
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Post by vvm on Apr 11, 2022 7:58:50 GMT
I had heard previously that they've had a bust up in the past, no clear cut evidence though so didn't want to stir up the rumour too much but this might suggest there is some substance to it.
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Post by njdragon on Apr 11, 2022 8:06:02 GMT
I had heard previously that they've had a bust up in the past, no clear cut evidence though so didn't want to stir up the rumour too much but this might suggest there is some substance to it. it would seem this is the most likely cause, we never know what goes on. He deserved a call up on performance this season, if the history is with page then i think page needs to get over it. If it involves other players then page is probably right to leave him out. Doubt we'll ever find out. Thats always been an issue with welsh football we dont get impartial journalists.. Its all tight knit ex players who know not to ask. Maybe thats a good thing as we have a good squad mentality! Well thats what we are told.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 11, 2022 17:47:48 GMT
I had heard previously that they've had a bust up in the past, no clear cut evidence though so didn't want to stir up the rumour too much but this might suggest there is some substance to it. it would seem this is the most likely cause, we never know what goes on. He deserved a call up on performance this season, if the history is with page then i think page needs to get over it. If it involves other players then page is probably right to leave him out. Doubt we'll ever find out. Thats always been an issue with welsh football we dont get impartial journalists.. Its all tight knit ex players who know not to ask. Maybe thats a good thing as we have a good squad mentality! Well thats what we are told. I think that degree of separation is a bit of a safety bubble - something not many teams have in the modern era But you can imagine the English press would be on it like a fly on sh*t if they heard there was discord in the England camp
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Post by njdragon on Apr 11, 2022 19:50:23 GMT
it would seem this is the most likely cause, we never know what goes on. He deserved a call up on performance this season, if the history is with page then i think page needs to get over it. If it involves other players then page is probably right to leave him out. Doubt we'll ever find out. Thats always been an issue with welsh football we dont get impartial journalists.. Its all tight knit ex players who know not to ask. Maybe thats a good thing as we have a good squad mentality! Well thats what we are told. I think that degree of separation is a bit of a safety bubble - something not many teams have in the modern era But you can imagine the English press would be on it like a fly on sh*t if they heard there was discord in the England camp Yeh i was going to say it would be all over the english press, probably a blessing we dont want to go down that route!
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 12, 2022 10:26:51 GMT
Interesting.
Having watched Swansea-Derby, he was completely anonymous. That being said, he has got more ability than Mark Harris and would provide more of a goal threat if he was called upon from the bench.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Apr 13, 2022 12:30:40 GMT
Interesting. Having watched Swansea-Derby, he was completely anonymous. That being said, he has got more ability than Mark Harris and would provide more of a goal threat if he was called upon from the bench. would not say he was anonymous , lad had some pressure on taking that penalty considering the state of the club and being 2-0 down. yes not one of his best games but certainly in my opinion (even tho biased) he was busy and even back collecting the ball in own half. this whole tom (marmite) Lawrence is amusing at least. like on the derby forum he can never be good enough for alot and praised to the roof by others Derby evening telegraph are the worst at criticizing Tom while have the team are far worse over the last few seasons. here hoping on that winning goal v Cardiff to keep us up
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 13, 2022 12:45:35 GMT
Interesting. Having watched Swansea-Derby, he was completely anonymous. That being said, he has got more ability than Mark Harris and would provide more of a goal threat if he was called upon from the bench. would not say he was anonymous , lad had some pressure on taking that penalty considering the state of the club and being 2-0 down. yes not one of his best games but certainly in my opinion (even tho biased) he was busy and even back collecting the ball in own half. this whole tom (marmite) Lawrence is amusing at least. like on the derby forum he can never be good enough for alot and praised to the roof by others Derby evening telegraph are the worst at criticizing Tom while have the team are far worse over the last few seasons. here hoping on that winning goal v Cardiff to keep us up Another 12 months possibly 18m, and I can see a major domestic or continental club coming in for Ebiowei.
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 13, 2022 14:15:55 GMT
would not say he was anonymous , lad had some pressure on taking that penalty considering the state of the club and being 2-0 down. yes not one of his best games but certainly in my opinion (even tho biased) he was busy and even back collecting the ball in own half. this whole tom (marmite) Lawrence is amusing at least. like on the derby forum he can never be good enough for alot and praised to the roof by others Derby evening telegraph are the worst at criticizing Tom while have the team are far worse over the last few seasons. here hoping on that winning goal v Cardiff to keep us up Another 12 months possibly 18m, and I can see a major domestic or continental club coming in for Ebiowei. He's set to join Udinese
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 13, 2022 15:10:07 GMT
Another 12 months possibly 18m, and I can see a major domestic or continental club coming in for Ebiowei. He's set to join Udinese To soon I'd say for a move to Serie A, but Udinede do have a great track record of discovering young talent and selling them onto more 'established' clubs.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Apr 13, 2022 15:34:34 GMT
Another 12 months possibly 18m, and I can see a major domestic or continental club coming in for Ebiowei. He's set to join Udinese Festy Ebosele is joining udinese not Ebiowei.
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 13, 2022 20:29:22 GMT
Festy Ebosele is joining udinese not Ebiowei. I've been given false information! Ebosele's Irish isn't he? They seem to be building a decent team of young talent atm
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Post by manulike on Apr 16, 2022 12:12:31 GMT
Didn't see the game, but reports are that our Tom was MOTM in the victory v Fulham. County are now only nine points from safety!
#PageyMustBeBlind
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Post by iot on Apr 16, 2022 17:57:15 GMT
Didn't see the game, but reports are that our Tom was MOTM in the victory v Fulham. County are now only nine points from safety!
#PageyMustBeBlind
I saw most of it, and am very surprised to hear that. He wasn't in the game at all. He did set up the winner, although that was a scuffed shot. Wilson was also very ineffective whilst Neco was definitely the best out of the three.
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Post by quetzal on Apr 18, 2022 15:57:53 GMT
Red card. Page won’t be interested
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Post by insertname on Apr 18, 2022 18:02:11 GMT
Red card. Page won’t be interested Massively soft second yellow
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Apr 19, 2022 9:33:13 GMT
stupid second yellow and as usual his temperment over run. his frustrations in the game was builing and was no shock the second even tho bit soft but deliberate.... any way its the least of derbys problems now
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Post by welshrover on Apr 19, 2022 15:14:53 GMT
He will look good in the third division if he stays!
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Apr 20, 2022 7:40:47 GMT
He will look good in the third division if he stays!
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Post by underwood on May 4, 2022 10:24:33 GMT
I wonder what will become of him?
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Post by insertname on May 4, 2022 10:34:13 GMT
I wonder what will become of him? He’s out of contract so a fairly low risk signing. I reckon he’ll sign for West Brom or one of the relegated sides from the prem. I could really see him at Leeds, in fact
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Post by welshrover on May 19, 2022 12:18:11 GMT
Ludicrous decision again by Page.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 19, 2022 13:41:09 GMT
Ludicrous decision again by Page. Not really
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Post by cymruramdcfc on May 19, 2022 14:59:04 GMT
Ludicrous decision again by Page. Not really Not ludicrous but bit baffling. Yes bit of a bias here. Like mention previous not to be in squad after best season in ages and experience. But that's way it is roll on Poland,
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Post by welshfootball on May 19, 2022 17:16:18 GMT
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Post by insertname on May 19, 2022 17:28:59 GMT
“When you've got a formula, and I'm a loyal manager and man... when you've got that success and you're winning, it's very hard to change it” Says the bloke who brought in Sorba Thomas when things were already ticking over nicely 😂 Whatever the reasons are, Page is pissing up our leg and telling us it’s raining there. Lawrence’s face doesn’t fit and I doubt we’ll find out the real reasons unless one of them releases a book.
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Post by jimexotic on May 19, 2022 22:30:24 GMT
“When you've got a formula, and I'm a loyal manager and man... when you've got that success and you're winning, it's very hard to change it” Says the bloke who brought in Sorba Thomas when things were already ticking over nicely 😂 Whatever the reasons are, Page is pissing up our leg and telling us it’s raining there. Lawrence’s face doesn’t fit and I doubt we’ll find out the real reasons unless one of them releases a book. I get what you're saying but I think in this case Lawrence doesn't fit with Page's formula whereas Sorba's infectious attitude combined with the fact that he's a very versatile and useful player and has something that very few of our players have, fantastic set piece delivery and crossing ability, makes him someone that Page thinks can slot into any squad and be an asset, he can come into the group and keep the positivity flowing.
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