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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 12, 2022 3:49:28 GMT
Let's see how he starts off at Rangers. Good series of winnable SPL fixtures (4)in August, and a chance to get his name on the scoresheets before the end of that month (prior to a visit to Celtic Park in early September). Be interested to see if he makes full 90min v celtic |
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Post by marsvolta on Jul 12, 2022 5:16:11 GMT
Thanks for ONE good season Tom and I hope you don't feel guilty by not trying to repay the support you got from the club when you was at your lowest and turn your career around and able you to move on. Bitter YES What was the contract situation in the last season? I genuinely don’t know the full story. His contract was obviously running down but I wasn’t.aware of any public comments of Derby’s administrators trying to tie him down to a new one. Were they offering him a new deal? Were they even able to? If so, do we know the terms? Did they have to wait until new owners were in place? (Which until last week was far from certain) Last I heard was them trying to offload him in the January transfer window to get his salary off the books. Throw in the fact that no one knows the plans of the new owners, relegation, plus the fact that even Rooney has finally given up. Obviously as a Derby fan you’ll know more than me but from the outside it looks far from straight forward. |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 12, 2022 11:14:30 GMT
Thanks for ONE good season Tom and I hope you don't feel guilty by not trying to repay the support you got from the club when you was at your lowest and turn your career around and able you to move on. Bitter YES What was the contract situation in the last season? I genuinely don’t know the full story we could not resign him on his last year of his contract due to administration His contract was obviously running down but I wasn’t.aware of any public comments of Derby’s administrators trying to tie him down to a new one. quantam made a right mess of the administration in my onion with 2 buyers preferred and both didnt couth up the cash Were they offering him a new deal? tried to Were they even able to? not in admin If so, do we know the terms? Did they have to wait until new owners were in place? (Which until last week was far from certain) Last I heard was them trying to offload him in the January transfer window to get his salary off the books. Throw in the fact that no one knows the plans of the new owners, relegation, plus the fact that even Rooney has finally given up. Obviously as a Derby fan you’ll know more than me but from the outside it looks far from straight forward. there was talk he was staying as was Rooney, all players wanted to stay with Rooney to go back up Rooney had close links with the yank (preferred bidder) to take over derby. with promises of big rebuild but the yanky could not produce the money at the 12th hour (due to bank transfer didn't clear  ) so to save the club again a local business man CLOWES came in but obviously with not the financial backing Rooney was expecting so he decided to leave 4 weeks start of season to spend time with family, then players have now had change of heart to help the club 😡 now Rooney is off to states c@n@ i believe like most tom would have stayed if rooney was staying tand the yank threw money at the club. we did this before and look where tat got us on a side note , not many are having that party when derby county didn't die😉 |
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Post by welwyn on Jul 13, 2022 7:16:37 GMT
Sounds like everyone at the club backed the wrong horse. Kieran Maguire mentioned the other day that the employees at Kirchner's company haven't been paid in 2 months. Seems pretty dodgy to me.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 13, 2022 9:19:17 GMT
Sounds like everyone at the club backed the wrong horse. Kieran Maguire mentioned the other day that the employees at Kirchner's company haven't been paid in 2 months. Seems pretty dodgy to me. rooneys agent was paying wages allegedly i understand why rooney leaving to a point as it was a major fiancial mess but he was the key for the players to stay as he said he and the players with tom wanting to stay. both gone now and hope tom will get on the plane to Qatar now |
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Post by manulike on Jul 19, 2022 19:57:41 GMT
Are you watching, Robert?
#TeamTom
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Post by bale-droed on Jul 19, 2022 22:18:08 GMT
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Post by welshrover on Jul 20, 2022 7:47:25 GMT
Nothing short of criminal if he continues to be ignored.
At the very least someone from the FAW needs to explain their position on Tom.
And not a "general" statement re "giving youth a chance" but a statement that explains why this one individual is overlooked.
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Post by morg on Jul 20, 2022 9:58:48 GMT
We don't know the story re Wales and Tom but I doubt it's going to be in anyone's interests to have that clarified. Great start for him and Rabbi last night by the sound of it. Hopefully they carry on in the same vein domestically and in Europe. Do their talking on the pitch as the cliche goes and make themselves hard to ignore come November.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 20, 2022 12:15:05 GMT
The goal for Lawrence
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Post by 60sred on Jul 25, 2022 15:42:00 GMT
Just seen an interesting interview on sky. Tom was asked if his move to Rangers may help him with the national team.
His reply was it is out of his hands and that was all he was prepared to comment on the matter.
The way he gave his reply gave me the impression that he wont be holding his breath for a recall to the squad very soon
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Post by jimexotic on Jul 25, 2022 23:09:21 GMT
The door should be open for anyone playing well at a decent enough level. I know we have certain players that are reliable enough like Johnny Williams but if he's playing well and playing well in European competition then he deserves a look in.
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Post by welshrover on Jul 26, 2022 8:39:49 GMT
As I keep banging on as Wales supporters we need clarity on the situation from the FAW.
As it is us who in some way fund them and pay their salaries I don't think that is too much to ask.
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Post by rangers15 on Jul 26, 2022 10:34:45 GMT
As I keep banging on as Wales supporters we need clarity on the situation from the FAW. As it is us who in some way fund them and pay their salaries I don't think that is too much to ask. personally, I don't think we need clarity on it (even though I totally get some fans frustrations on the issue) its obvious that page doesn't fancy/rate him... and whilst i might not wholly agree with it, we've qualified for a world cup without him. As has been said loads of times on here... the camp togetherness is such a huge factor with this squad. so there is always very few chances of it changing greatly. And anyway, i'd rather our media didnt bring up potentially awkward questions in the build up to a world cup. i'm more than happy for them to be glorified cheerleaders for a while!!! this might change if he is scoring week in week out up until November of course... but lets wait and see. |
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Post by iot on Jul 26, 2022 10:44:19 GMT
As I keep banging on as Wales supporters we need clarity on the situation from the FAW. As it is us who in some way fund them and pay their salaries I don't think that is too much to ask. personally, I don't think we need clarity on it (even though I totally get some fans frustrations on the issue) its obvious that page doesn't fancy/rate him... and whilst i might not wholly agree with it, we've qualified for a world cup without him. As has been said loads of times on here... the camp togetherness is such a huge factor with this squad. so there is always very few chances of it changing greatly. And anyway, i'd rather our media didnt bring up potentially awkward questions in the build up to a world cup. i'm more than happy for them to be glorified cheerleaders for a while!!! this might change if he is scoring week in week out up until November of course... but lets wait and see. Yes, there are often very good reasons for keeping things quiet. There may be a sensitive issue involved relating to Lawrence's behaviour or an incident with another player for all we know, which wouldn't do good to anyone if it came out. I think solely based on his club form, he probably does merit a call up, although he's probably battling it out with Matondo who's also been in great form. But he's not going to be playing in important games, there are just too many players in front of him in that role, so I'm not particularly bothered and will trust Page on this - he's more than earned it after all! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 26, 2022 11:16:11 GMT
Bit entitled to expect the FAW to reveal every little detail. I don't feel the need to know either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 11:41:20 GMT
He got pissed and crashed his car into someone elses and then a road sign and then left the scene of the accident, in most professions his career would be over ,he should count himself lucky he is still able to get very well paid for playing football and didn't kill himself or somebody else,as someone who worked with a great guy that died as the result of something a drunk driver did he can get fucked, entitled prick.
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Post by marsvolta on Jul 27, 2022 6:21:05 GMT
As I keep banging on as Wales supporters we need clarity on the situation from the FAW. As it is us who in some way fund them and pay their salaries I don't think that is too much to ask. I’m pretty sure we’re not going to start getting press release style statements from the FAW regarding the non selection of Tom Lawrence (or any other players who don’t make the squads) |
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Post by evans1282 on Jul 28, 2022 6:21:58 GMT
As I keep banging on as Wales supporters we need clarity on the situation from the FAW. As it is us who in some way fund them and pay their salaries I don't think that is too much to ask. Page doesn't pick him ,is all the clarity I need personally. |
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Post by manulike on Aug 6, 2022 15:50:42 GMT
Thomas got another assist today and Matondo got the second in their 2-0 win
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 8, 2022 13:40:52 GMT
As I keep banging on as Wales supporters we need clarity on the situation from the FAW. As it is us who in some way fund them and pay their salaries I don't think that is too much to ask. Page doesn't pick him ,is all the clarity I need personally. Wonder how many still want him called up after this... |
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Post by bale-droed on Aug 8, 2022 13:55:16 GMT
Page doesn't pick him ,is all the clarity I need personally. Wonder how many still want him called up after this... People will give you the predictable reply of “Bales getting an MBE do you not want him to play!!??”” 🥱 Personally I just wish Tom hadn’t of done that or that Bale wasn’t getting an MBE Can we be an independent country yet? |
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Post by cynonvalley on Aug 8, 2022 14:18:36 GMT
Page doesn't pick him ,is all the clarity I need personally. Wonder how many still want him called up after this... Lmaooo what an ass |
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Post by jimexotic on Aug 8, 2022 16:06:08 GMT
What an idiot, this is different from Bale accepting the MBE, this is just plain lacking in self awareness. He was born in Wrexham, he grew up in PennyFfordd, he's made over 40 appearances for his country at youth and full level, he should understand what this means. I do, he's not playing for us again.
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Post by welshrover on Aug 8, 2022 16:50:36 GMT
Some of you getting a bit one dimensional.
Bale who was persona non Grata with some of you the other week for his MBE is suddenly ok again.
Ramsey and Bellamy for donning the Team UK shirt are ok it appears.
But Tom Lawrence, heaven forbid!!
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Post by evans1282 on Aug 8, 2022 17:55:45 GMT
Some of you getting a bit one dimensional. Bale who was persona non Grata with some of you the other week for his MBE is suddenly ok again. Ramsey and Bellamy for donning the Team UK shirt are ok it appears. But Tom Lawrence, heaven forbid!! Never mind with the "one dimensional",first you have to find quotes that support your premises I personal wouldn't expect every player to be a card carrying Nat,but I would expect a certain understanding of the support. |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 8, 2022 18:08:38 GMT
Some of you getting a bit one dimensional. Bale who was persona non Grata with some of you the other week for his MBE is suddenly ok again. Ramsey and Bellamy for donning the Team UK shirt are ok it appears. But Tom Lawrence, heaven forbid!! Never mind with the "one dimensional",first you have to find quotes that support your premises I personal wouldn't expect every player to be a card carrying Nat,but I would expect a certain understanding of the support. For your quotes just look back through the Bale thread! |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 8, 2022 18:48:44 GMT
Ok, as a non Twitter user am I missing something?
I see a picture of Tom Lawrence with two union flags but the last poster is talking about quotes.
Is there a quote from him I can't read as a non subscriber?
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Post by welshwhite on Aug 8, 2022 18:49:25 GMT
This is going to be very divisive on this forum. Tom is playing to the Rangers fans, but knows he has probably burned his bridges with the national team for whatever reason. This is the biggest team he has, and will likely, play for. Almost the antithesis of the messages Bale put out regarding Wales/Golf/Madrid. Foolish decision, but can see why he might feel the need to nail his colours to the mast to re-enforce his status at a club and support that seems to have taken him to their collective heart, and maybe a final FU to his recent non selections. I really do though think not the latter but rather an ill judged emotional act of alignment with a unionist ideal without fully understanding the wider picture.
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Post by hooky on Aug 8, 2022 18:59:20 GMT
Really?
Lets leave politics out of sport. You see where politics gets the world. We have democracy - there is a vote available to change things. How about leaving sporting people to do what the hell they like, instead of having to micro analyse everything they do?
I am a passionate Welshman but for goodness sake - I thought he'd done something unacceptable when I saw the first couple of lines
Wales is made up of 3mn people not 3mn robots and each has their own journey. Such arrogance to judge people on such things. How about everyone who throws a stone reflects what a decent human being they are, doubt there'd be as much commitment to act like the great authority on life and what makes a good Welshman. There are big differences between South. East and West and North Wales. The real divisiveness originates from such criticism.
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