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Post by iot on Mar 27, 2024 19:48:46 GMT
Would prefer to see him out on loan in L1 or somewhere If he is called into the Leeds squad it's because Farke want's him there, similar to Archie Gray. The Leeds squad has a lot of young players, so I don't think age is a problem, and the quality of the coaching would take him to the next level He wouldn't play ahead of Ampadu, Gruev, Kamara (if he stays) and Gray, never mind whoever else they would bring in if promoted. |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Mar 27, 2024 19:52:04 GMT
Anyone else think he and JJ were knackered in the last 15 though? (I appreciate that them being shot after 110 minutes is not something that comes up often) Yep was wondering if that's why he didn't step up for a penalty as I'd thought he might |
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 27, 2024 19:53:12 GMT
If he is called into the Leeds squad it's because Farke want's him there, similar to Archie Gray. The Leeds squad has a lot of young players, so I don't think age is a problem, and the quality of the coaching would take him to the next level He wouldn't play ahead of Ampadu, Gruev, Kamara (if he stays) and Gray, never mind whoever else they would bring in if promoted. Gray can play elsewhere in the team and he looks good going forward, and I'm not sure if Kamara is Premier League quality? Crew obviously wouldn't be a starting player, it would be more about integration and moving him up a level. |
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 27, 2024 20:02:46 GMT
Anyone else think he and JJ were knackered in the last 15 though? (I appreciate that them being shot after 110 minutes is not something that comes up often) Yep was wondering if that's why he didn't step up for a penalty as I'd thought he might If I was Amapdu, I would be doing a couple hours of shooting practise after training every day! |
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Post by majorraglan on Mar 27, 2024 23:19:25 GMT
I thought Ampadu was our best player last night, outstanding contribution in a “2 man midfield.”
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 28, 2024 0:55:41 GMT
The most important player for the next five years or so, nobody else in our squad can do what he does to the level that he does it.
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Post by hooky on Mar 28, 2024 10:38:40 GMT
Ben Davies and Ethan Ampadu are the heartbeat of the side So proud they are both Welsh  Lets make sure we all have James' back. We'd have not got here or to the last 2 tournaments without his big contributions! |
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Post by iot on Mar 28, 2024 12:11:31 GMT
Ampadu has really taken his game to a new level. The next test will be whether he can really influence games in the prem. Based on Tuesday night's performance, you'd certainly think so. Hopefully he'll establish himself as a Prem-level player next year and then beyond that, who knows he may fulfil his potential as a top 6 / top 4 club player after all.
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 28, 2024 14:00:01 GMT
Ampadu has really taken his game to a new level. The next test will be whether he can really influence games in the prem. Based on Tuesday night's performance, you'd certainly think so. Hopefully he'll establish himself as a Prem-level player next year and then beyond that, who knows he may fulfil his potential as a top 6 / top 4 club player after all. He's always been good, he was just surrounded by the wrong people, and he should have bailed on Chelsea a lot sooner. His two years in Italy were worthwhile though, just a pity it wasn't with better teams. |
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Post by iot on Mar 28, 2024 14:27:45 GMT
Ampadu has really taken his game to a new level. The next test will be whether he can really influence games in the prem. Based on Tuesday night's performance, you'd certainly think so. Hopefully he'll establish himself as a Prem-level player next year and then beyond that, who knows he may fulfil his potential as a top 6 / top 4 club player after all. He's always been good, he was just surrounded by the wrong people, and he should have bailed on Chelsea a lot sooner. His two years in Italy were worthwhile though, just a pity it wasn't with better teams. Depends how you define 'good'. He's not been as good as he's performing this season - you can see it in the Wales games. He's gone from having 6 or 7 out of 10 performances to 8/10 performances. He wasn't first choice when Page came in, he's now probably our most important player. |
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 28, 2024 14:43:18 GMT
He's always been good, he was just surrounded by the wrong people, and he should have bailed on Chelsea a lot sooner. His two years in Italy were worthwhile though, just a pity it wasn't with better teams. Depends how you define 'good'. He's not been as good as he's performing this season - you can see it in the Wales games. He's gone from having 6 or 7 out of 10 performances to 8/10 performances. He wasn't first choice when Page came in, he's now probably our most important player. He was better than Kiwior when they were both at Spezia IMO, and I think we saw that on Tuesday evening. They could both do the CB/midfield thing, so they had similar profiles, and they played well together. Then Kiwior went to Arsenal, and Ampadu was left to fight a relegation battle alone. He did manage to pocket Rafael Leao in one match, and single handedly subdued the Inter Milan front 3 in a game which Spezia won against the Champion League finalists. The fans at Venezia and Spezia adored him, as he always gave 100% in every game, even though he was mainly playing in a team full of journeymen. Of course, it all turned around at Leeds when he was surrounded by players such as Summerville, Rutter, Gnonto and Gray, etc., and it was the launchpad to where he finds himself today. It's been quite a ride for a young lad, and a proper apprenticeship where he got to learn his trade the hard way. |
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Post by cymruchris on Mar 28, 2024 19:37:50 GMT
The most important player for the next five years or so, nobody else in our squad can do what he does to the level that he does it. The big success of this qualifying cycle is he's finally established himself as the player everyone knows he can be and in one sole position (rather than having to fill in the backline). Probably not a surprise it correlates with finally settling down in his club career and not getting loaned out every season. Leeds should get automatic promotion now so looking forward to seeing how good he can be in the premier league next season. |
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Post by surge on Apr 1, 2024 21:05:36 GMT
What don't you (Leeds) want after being granted an 86th minute penalty in crucial game? Arguments about who will take it.
What do you want? Ampadu sorting it out so the goal is scored.
He was beaten for Hull's goal but will learn from it. Big character.
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 1, 2024 21:30:32 GMT
Ampadu could probably play for Wales for another 12 years or so, injuries permitting. If his legs start to go he could slip seamlessly into most defences, we've got an absolute diamond of a player. I'm 40 and I can't remember us ever having a player this talented in a defensive role, we've had some good players, don't get me wrong, but Ethan is just getting better and better.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Apr 1, 2024 21:46:46 GMT
What don't you (Leeds) want after being granted an 86th minute penalty in crucial game? Arguments about who will take it. What do you want? Ampadu sorting it out so the goal is scored. He was beaten for Hull's goal but will learn from it. Big character. He didn't do a lot wrong for the goal, more credit to Carvalho. We just need him to add a bit more to his offensive game to make him a true all-rounder. |
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Post by athenempadu on Apr 1, 2024 22:21:09 GMT
What don't you (Leeds) want after being granted an 86th minute penalty in crucial game? Arguments about who will take it. What do you want? Ampadu sorting it out so the goal is scored. Having just come on as a sub, I don't think Piroe had touched the ball before the pen, so I would be inclined to go with Summerville on this. |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Apr 15, 2024 22:52:25 GMT
Ampadu was named as one of the Centre back picks in the Championship team of the year last night. Move to Leeds is really working out for him.
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Post by athenempadu on Apr 16, 2024 12:30:28 GMT
Ampadu was named as one of the Centre back picks in the Championship team of the year last night. Move to Leeds is really working out for him. It's just one more step on his journey. He still has to find a way to the Premier League and prove himself there, but in saying that he's always looked too good for the Championship. His distribution has been superb and he reads the game well, and fans from other teams have taken note. Some are saying their club should buy him, even some nutters from Barcelona! He has quite a unique profile that would interest a lot of teams, so the ball is in his court either at Leeds or elsewhere, and only he can mess it up. |
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Post by iot on May 27, 2024 11:21:01 GMT
Yesterday was exactly what I feared would happen when Ipswich pipped Leeds to the automatic spots - I just never felt confident that they would go up via the playoffs.
Of all the Welsh boys vying for promotion, I think Ampadu had by far the most to gain from going up. By extension, I think a Leeds promotion would have been much more beneficial for us. I don't feel confident that Burns and Broadhead will make it in the Prem, although it'll be nice to see them test themselves at that level. Ampadu, on the other hand, is more than good enough and I just felt it would have been the spark his career needed. As it stands, he now has 3 relegations under his belt, a failed promotion with one of the Championship frontrunners (of which he had some blame for the loss unfortunately), and faces another season in the Championship.
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Post by surge on May 27, 2024 11:47:19 GMT
It's been a horrible end to the season so far from Welsh fans perspective.
Think Wrexham promotion and, maybe, Mark Harris back in Championship are the only bright sparks.
How can Leeds concede so many chances when they have two DM in front of their CBs? But now Ampadu and James either looking for new home (again) or another season away from premier league and Rodon future looks uncertain again.
But we go again.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 27, 2024 12:20:59 GMT
It hasn't hurt them playing at the top end of the Championship. I think that's about the right level for Rodon, Connor & DJ. Ampadu is a Premier League player in waiting but he is only 23 - for a defensive player that's very young! I'm not too concerned about him spending another season competing for promotion - it's character building stuff
Not sure where Rodon will land. I wouldn't be surprised if Leeds went for Rodon to try and build on this season & target automatic promotion
Connor might benefit from having Bellamy as a coach at Burnley as well
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Post by iot on May 27, 2024 12:36:47 GMT
It's rumoured that Leeds will need to offload around £100m worth of talent to comply with FFP, so a move for Rodon may be unlikely and they may need to sell Ampadu. That said, fortunately for them they have a lot of saleable assets. I can see Archie Gray going for £20-30m; they could probably get around £20-25m for Summerville, £15-20m for Gnonto, and £10-15m for Rutter. That could just about be enough if they do well
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Post by winsumluzsum on May 27, 2024 15:41:18 GMT
I can see Summerville (19 goals 9 assists) going for ar least £40 million, he's that good. Joao Pedro left Watford, with an inferior track record, for nearly £30 million. Gnonto and Rutter should command £20 million plus fees too. I reckon Ampadu's worth at least £15 million on the back of the season he's had. Rodon should be worth a similar amount.
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Post by talyfan on May 27, 2024 17:36:39 GMT
It's rumoured that Leeds will need to offload around £100m worth of talent to comply with FFP, so a move for Rodon may be unlikely and they may need to sell Ampadu. That said, fortunately for them they have a lot of saleable assets. I can see Archie Gray going for £20-30m; they could probably get around £20-25m for Summerville, £15-20m for Gnonto, and £10-15m for Rutter. That could just about be enough if they do well could imagine it goes the other way and if clubs know Leeds are in this predicament might hold out till the final hour to see if they can get these players at cut prices. Could see a fair few having to leave |
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Post by welshrover on May 27, 2024 18:11:22 GMT
It's been a horrible end to the season so far from Welsh fans perspective. Think Wrexham promotion and, maybe, Mark Harris back in Championship are the only bright sparks. How can Leeds concede so many chances when they have two DM in front of their CBs? But now Ampadu and James either looking for new home (again) or another season away from premier league and Rodon future looks uncertain again. But we go again. I think Eli King has won promotion with Raith Rovers |
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Post by dai on May 27, 2024 18:26:45 GMT
It's rumoured that Leeds will need to offload around £100m worth of talent to comply with FFP, so a move for Rodon may be unlikely and they may need to sell Ampadu. That said, fortunately for them they have a lot of saleable assets. I can see Archie Gray going for £20-30m; they could probably get around £20-25m for Summerville, £15-20m for Gnonto, and £10-15m for Rutter. That could just about be enough if they do well D James is also one of their highest earners (apparently), so I think he may go if interest comes in. Although I'd imagine he's quite settled and happy there and would like another promotion push. |
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Post by iot on May 27, 2024 18:53:06 GMT
I can see Summerville (19 goals 9 assists) going for ar least £40 million, he's that good. Joao Pedro left Watford, with an inferior track record, for nearly £30 million. Gnonto and Rutter should command £20 million plus fees too. I reckon Ampadu's worth at least £15 million on the back of the season he's had. Rodon should be worth a similar amount. Summerville’s had a fairly poor end to the season and as Talyfan mentioned, Leeds wouldn’t be negotiating from a position of strength. I think they paid about £35m for Rutter, which was a very poor piece of business if you ask me. Despite being one of the most skillful players around, he’s a rubbish finisher, rarely plays a killer ball, and doesn’t do anywhere enough to justify that fee. They’ll do well to recoup half of what they spent on him imo. Rodon’s with them on loan, so they obviously won’t get anything for him! |
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Post by iot on May 27, 2024 18:56:45 GMT
It's rumoured that Leeds will need to offload around £100m worth of talent to comply with FFP, so a move for Rodon may be unlikely and they may need to sell Ampadu. That said, fortunately for them they have a lot of saleable assets. I can see Archie Gray going for £20-30m; they could probably get around £20-25m for Summerville, £15-20m for Gnonto, and £10-15m for Rutter. That could just about be enough if they do well D James is also one of their highest earners (apparently), so I think he may go if interest comes in. Although I'd imagine he's quite settled and happy there and would like another promotion push. Yeah, but I can’t see Leeds selling all three of their top class wide forwards. They’d probably get more for the other two while James has performed much better than Gnonoto this season, so makes sense for them to retain him over the other two. Ampadu’s their captain and probably would get them £15m tops, so I suspect they’ll get rid of their other assets instead |
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Post by winsumluzsum on May 27, 2024 20:35:26 GMT
I can see Summerville (19 goals 9 assists) going for ar least £40 million, he's that good. Joao Pedro left Watford, with an inferior track record, for nearly £30 million. Gnonto and Rutter should command £20 million plus fees too. I reckon Ampadu's worth at least £15 million on the back of the season he's had. Rodon should be worth a similar amount. Summerville’s had a fairly poor end to the season and as Talyfan mentioned, Leeds wouldn’t be negotiating from a position of strength. I think they paid about £35m for Rutter, which was a very poor piece of business if you ask me. Despite being one of the most skillful players around, he’s a rubbish finisher, rarely plays a killer ball, and doesn’t do anywhere enough to justify that fee. They’ll do well to recoup half of what they spent on him imo. Rodon’s with them on loan, so they obviously won’t get anything for him! If anything I think I've been modest with Summerville's price tag. Watford were is a weak position when they sold Pedro, who's record was inferior to Summerville's this season. Southampton also desperately needed to offload players last summer yet got a £53 million initial fee for Lavia. With Chelsea and Liverpool being linked with Summerville it wouldn't surprise me if he left for more than £50 million. |
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Post by ddirpytnop on May 27, 2024 20:39:04 GMT
It's been a horrible end to the season so far from Welsh fans perspective. Think Wrexham promotion and, maybe, Mark Harris back in Championship are the only bright sparks. How can Leeds concede so many chances when they have two DM in front of their CBs? But now Ampadu and James either looking for new home (again) or another season away from premier league and Rodon future looks uncertain again. But we go again. I think Eli King has won promotion with Raith Rovers He was on loan at Ross County. So no. But he did help them avoid relegation. |
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