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Post by oscardelta on Oct 4, 2016 6:48:32 GMT
Wizzair 20% discount sale to members.
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Post by popularside on Oct 4, 2016 11:58:19 GMT
I stayed in the City Centre hotel across from the railway station. It is 7 minutes walk (albeit up hill) to the main shopping area. The A1 bus from the airport drops you at the railway station. Tram 9 will get you to the stadium (assuming Belgrade). I also stayed there in 2012. It is much cheaper to book on their website rather than booking.com.
I would not recommend the train from Budapest unless really on a budget. I did that in 2012 and it was a real drag. It is probably worse now with the refugee crisis.
Lovely city. No issues or hassle.
I got the tr back after the game but loads of fans were ripped off by taxi drivers. Normally they were fine but the gangsters were waiting for the fans afterwards. Usual rules agree price before you get in or use the meter. In general the people are very honest.
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Post by oscardelta on Oct 4, 2016 13:14:35 GMT
€5 should be cost back to city centre for 4.
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Post by adecolley on Oct 5, 2016 9:56:30 GMT
Wizzair 20% off today for everyone
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Post by manulike on Oct 5, 2016 21:24:21 GMT
Vueling have decided to totally annoy me, and have now cancelled both my super convenient mid-afternoon flight via Barcelona... Offering me a 10pm arrival to Belgrade and a 1am back to Barcelona!
Back to the drawing board again...
Any ideas for comfortable time-tables out of Cardiff/Bristol? Quite flexible and don't mind an over-night somewhere nice :-)
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Post by daearegwr on Oct 10, 2016 12:20:16 GMT
Vueling have decided to totally annoy me, and have now cancelled both my super convenient mid-afternoon flight via Barcelona... Offering me a 10pm arrival to Belgrade and a 1am back to Barcelona! Back to the drawing board again... Any ideas for comfortable time-tables out of Cardiff/Bristol? Quite flexible and don't mind an over-night somewhere nice :-) I had looked at Bristol - Geneva - Belgrade with Easyjet as they have just gone on sale but the flight times need overnight stays and Geneva is probably the most expensive place for one of those!
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Post by manulike on Oct 10, 2016 12:23:58 GMT
Thanks. Yes. i saw that to. Think its a fairly early departure from Geneva as well. Looking into Flybe from Cardiff to Amsterdam/Munich now. Mad busy at work after five days away ... so will need to wait a couple of days ...
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Post by manulike on Oct 17, 2016 20:34:44 GMT
I see that the official attendance for their Serbia v Austria game was again very low, at just 14,200. Hope this does not mean a move to Novi Sad again ... Would certainly give them a psychological advantage!
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Post by manulike on Oct 17, 2016 22:18:11 GMT
There are a few very decent options of getting to Belgrade at very convenient times from south Wales or Bristol.
Transavia (a KLM subsidiary) fly lunchtime for around €50 each-way from Amsterdam Schiphol. Add a KLM return flight for about £90 from Cardiff or EasyJet from Bristol for about £65.
If you wait til December, KLM will release their Cardiff to Belgrade route for £222 return, but that forces you onto their 6am departures from both sides. I booked an open-jaw Amsterdam-Belgrade and then Ljubljana to Amsterdam with a night on the way out in Amsterdam, which gives me a comfortable afternoon flight out… Ljubljana to Amsterdam was €29. All in, was about £175 ;-)
Wizz Air do Eindhoven to Belgrade for €40. You can also combine an overnight stop in Munich on the Friday night if you use Flybe from Cardiff to Munich (£40) and WizzAir from Munich to Belgrade on Saturday for €40.
You can also do Flybe Cardiff to CDG Paris for £50 Friday at 9.20am and carry on directly CDG to Belgrade with Air France to ZAGREB for £62 arriving 3pm!
Brussels Airlines does Bristol to Brussels return for £80 and Brussels to ZAGREB return for €85. Zagreb to Belgrade is about 3 or 4 hour train/bus. Don’t book Bristol to Zagreb in one booking, as this is about £70 dearer (about £230!)…
Ljubljana is stunning and Zagreb is also very nice – both well worth stopping over for 2 or 3 nights!
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 17, 2016 22:54:20 GMT
There are a few very decent options of getting to Belgrade at very convenient times from south Wales or Bristol. Transavia (a KLM subsidiary) flys lunchtime for around €50 each-way from Amsterdam Schiphol. Add a KLM return flight for about £100 from Cardiff/Bristol. If you wait til December, KLM will release their Cardiff to Belgrade route for £177 return, but that forces you onto their 6am departures from both sides. I booked an open-jaw Amsterdam-Belgrade and then Ljublijana to Amsterdam with a night on the way out in Amsterdam, which gives me a comfortable afternoon flight out… Ljublijana to Amsterdam was €29. All in, was about £175 ;-) Wizz Air do Eindhoven to Belgrade for €40. You can also combine an overnight stop in Munich on the Friday night if you use Flybe from Cardiff to Munich (£40) and WizzAir from Munich to Belgrade on Saturday for €40. You can also do Flybe Cardiff to CDG Paris for £50 Friday at 9.20am and carry on directly CDG to Belgrade with Air France to ZAGREB for £62 arriving 3pm! Brussels Airlines does Bristol to Brussels return for £80 and Brussels to ZAGREB return for €85. Zagreb to Belgrade is about 3 or 4 hour train/bus. Don’t book Bristol to Zagreb in one booking, as this is about £30 dearer… Ljublijana is stunning and Zagreb is also very nice – both well worth stopping over for 2 or 3 nights! I agree Ljubljana is stunning.
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 22, 2016 14:14:32 GMT
There are a few very decent options of getting to Belgrade at very convenient times from south Wales or Bristol. Transavia (a KLM subsidiary) flys lunchtime for around €50 each-way from Amsterdam Schiphol. Add a KLM return flight for about £100 from Cardiff or EasyJet from Bristol for about £65. If you wait til December, KLM will release their Cardiff to Belgrade route for £177 return, but that forces you onto their 6am departures from both sides. I booked an open-jaw Amsterdam-Belgrade and then Ljubljana to Amsterdam with a night on the way out in Amsterdam, which gives me a comfortable afternoon flight out… Ljubljana to Amsterdam was €29. All in, was about £175 ;-) Wizz Air do Eindhoven to Belgrade for €40. You can also combine an overnight stop in Munich on the Friday night if you use Flybe from Cardiff to Munich (£40) and WizzAir from Munich to Belgrade on Saturday for €40. You can also do Flybe Cardiff to CDG Paris for £50 Friday at 9.20am and carry on directly CDG to Belgrade with Air France to ZAGREB for £62 arriving 3pm! Brussels Airlines does Bristol to Brussels return for £80 and Brussels to ZAGREB return for €85. Zagreb to Belgrade is about 3 or 4 hour train/bus. Don’t book Bristol to Zagreb in one booking, as this is about £30 dearer… Ljubljana is stunning and Zagreb is also very nice – both well worth stopping over for 2 or 3 nights! Great information, thanks. I also do a bit of thinking outside the box when it comes to getting to destinations on budget airlines and have picked up some bargains that way.
I flew Eindhoven to Skojpe with WizzAir for the Macedonia game. Dutch trains can be cheap if booked in advance, so Schipol to Eindhoven can be cheap. There was also a bus from Eindhoven station to the airport. A little word of warning, there aren't many budget accommodation options in Eindhoven, so what you gain by flying budget you might lose in hotel costs. I flew back from that game with Transavia. A good budget airline, but awful uniforms!
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Post by manulike on Oct 22, 2016 18:48:50 GMT
Thanks for the feedback, gwernybwch Any ideas for a reasonably priced place to stay in Amsterdam or near enough to Schiphol? The official youth hostel is 50 euro in a 8-bed dorm ... and I dont even like Amsterdam! The Rotterdam hostel is only 30 euro, but its 24 euro return on the train...
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Post by cantonwelsh79 on Oct 22, 2016 20:44:33 GMT
Thanks for the feedback, gwernybwch Any ideas for a reasonably priced place to stay in Amsterdam or near enough to Schiphol? The official youth hostel is 50 euro in a 8-bed dorm ... and I dont even like Amsterdam! The Rotterdam hostel is only 30 euro, but its 24 euro return on the train... Have you looked at the Meininger. It's by the airport and near to a good rail link to Centraal. I think it was about 30 euro for a dorm room when I stayed there.
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 23, 2016 7:31:03 GMT
Thanks for the feedback, gwernybwch Any ideas for a reasonably priced place to stay in Amsterdam or near enough to Schiphol? The official youth hostel is 50 euro in a 8-bed dorm ... and I dont even like Amsterdam! The Rotterdam hostel is only 30 euro, but its 24 euro return on the train... I don't think that 'reasonably priced' and Amsterdam go together! I stayed at The Crown Hotel for our last friendly in Amsterdam. It was a single room with a shared bathroom and it was still 50GBP a night!
Similar to cantonwelsh79 , I think that the best thing is stay a few stops away from Centraal Station / Schiphol at Sloterdijk, Lelylaand or maybe Amstel Station. I'm told that as Den Haag is mostly a business city there might be good deals on accommodation during the weekend.
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Post by manulike on Oct 23, 2016 12:24:32 GMT
Thanks. Much appreciated. I will probably wait until the end of April, to see if we announce a friendly for a few days before the Belgrade match. If we don't, I'll give myself 3 or 4 days out in the lowlands and perhaps visit Liege/Antwerp again - where hostels cost about 25 euro and the beer and food is much better ;-)
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 24, 2016 10:39:43 GMT
manulike That reminds me; there is an airport bus that goes from Antwerp to Eindhoven airport.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 16:21:41 GMT
I'm not a fan of multi-leg flights so at the moment I am looking at devoting 7-10 days to this one and doing a circular trip of the Balkans flying from Gatwick to Dubrovnik and back.
I am thinking of Dubrovnik > Sarajevo > Somewhere just inside Serbia > Belgrade > Kosovo > Montenegro (Podgorica?) > Dubrovnik
Does this seem feasible using rail travel and hostels or is the distance too great to get around in that time?
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Post by adecolley on Oct 24, 2016 19:06:59 GMT
In 2010 i got overnight train from Belgrade to Bar. Dont go to Bar, get off at Budva. Podgorica pretty unmemorable too. You can get bus to Dubrovnik and Kotor from Budva.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 24, 2016 19:48:57 GMT
I'm not a fan of multi-leg flights so at the moment I am looking at devoting 7-10 days to this one and doing a circular trip of the Balkans flying from Gatwick to Dubrovnik and back. I am thinking of Dubrovnik > Sarajevo > Somewhere just inside Serbia > Belgrade > Kosovo > Montenegro (Podgorica?) > Dubrovnik Does this seem feasible using rail travel and hostels or is the distance too great to get around in that time? You could break up the first journey by stopping off at Mostar. Whether it be a few hours or one night.
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Post by oscardelta on Oct 24, 2016 20:47:05 GMT
I'm not a fan of multi-leg flights so at the moment I am looking at devoting 7-10 days to this one and doing a circular trip of the Balkans flying from Gatwick to Dubrovnik and back. I am thinking of Dubrovnik > Sarajevo > Somewhere just inside Serbia > Belgrade > Kosovo > Montenegro (Podgorica?) > Dubrovnik Does this seem feasible using rail travel and hostels or is the distance too great to get around in that time? I have found rometorio.com really great at finding routes when I needed it across Europe. Even came up with options unable to find elsewhere on trains and buses.
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 25, 2016 9:13:46 GMT
In 2010 i got overnight train from Belgrade to Bar. Dont go to Bar, get off at Budva. Podgorica pretty unmemorable too. You can get bus to Dubrovnik and Kotor from Budva. From what I'm reading in the bible (Lonely Planet), Belgrade (and the whole of Serbia for that matter) is relatively unmemorable as well. Would you say that is a fair analysis?
Being as the budget airline prices are up to scheduled flight prices already, I'm thinking that it might be better to save my money and do both Moldova and Georgia instead.
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Post by manulike on Oct 25, 2016 11:18:19 GMT
In 2010 i got overnight train from Belgrade to Bar. Dont go to Bar, get off at Budva. Podgorica pretty unmemorable too. You can get bus to Dubrovnik and Kotor from Budva. From what I'm reading in the bible (Lonely Planet), Belgrade (and the whole of Serbia for that matter) is relatively unmemorable as well. Would you say that is a fair analysis?
Being as the budget airline prices are up to scheduled flight prices already, I'm thinking that it might be better to save my money and do both Moldova and Georgia instead.
I have no opinion of Belgrade, as never been there before. I did spend four or five days in Zagreb, and although it is nothing to rave about, it was pleasant enough. Ljubljana, is definitely a fantastic city - and the lakes and hills further north in Slovenia also worth the effort. There are plenty of cheap flights into both Zagreb and Ljubljana. On the other hand, if indeed you fancy a lovely 5-week holiday, I'd say 3 September to 7 October is do-able on a budget of under £1000. Count on about £250 for flights and then a maximum of £20/day accommodation/transport/food. It can be done cheaper still, by staying in hostels. Georgia is a pure delight. So is Armenia. The Irish seemed to have had a great time in Chisinau and Narnia ;-)
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Post by manulike on Oct 26, 2016 22:34:00 GMT
A realistic option out of MANCHESTER (although a bit adventurous) is: Dept Sat 10 June at 8am Ryanair to Brussels - £22 (80 minutes stop-over) Dept Brussels to Timisoara at 11.25am arrive 2.50pm - 25 euro. Dept Timisoara Nord Station at 16:36 arrive VRSAC at 17:45 - 3 euro Dept Vrsac at 18:25 arrive Belgrade (BEOGRAD) at 8pm
Same money and times on Tuesday and Thursday as well ... if you fancy making a trip of it ;-)
It does take 11 hours point to point ... but its only 55 quid ...
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Post by leggybach on Oct 27, 2016 1:54:35 GMT
I've just moved back from Belgrade and I can guarantee it's really safe in the centre, but I'd agree about taxi drivers - stick to Pink Taxi or Lux, always good with foreigners and flat rate.
Accommodation-wise, I'd suggest in the centre but towards Dorcol/Stari Grad. For me, the best bars and cafes around here - although I'm biased as I lived there. There's a high concentration of bars and cafes throughout the centre and a better/cheaper one is probably just a few doors down. Have a look inside/at the menu before choosing and you it's almost impossible to go wrong. Don't pay more than 200din for a pint (unless it's craft, and there is some top stuff there)!
I'll probably post a more in-depth guide to the place nearer the date, but feel free to message if you have any questions. I'm actually back out there next week just before the Serbia game!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 20:41:56 GMT
How will we get on with the lingo over there? I won't try to learn Serbian. Everyone in Stockholm just showed off with how good their English was but Malaga was good for my basic Spanish.
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Post by manulike on Nov 22, 2016 11:43:04 GMT
How will we get on with the lingo over there? I won't try to learn Serbian. Everyone in Stockholm just showed off with how good their English was but Malaga was good for my basic Spanish. After spending a whole month in France, I am sure most of us have developed great language communication skills As they use the Russian Cyrillic alphabet, this will allow us all time to practice for our big Russia trip Finally, start off with these basic words - www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/serbian.php Not sure about the grammar, but this might be useful: Ја сам велшки. Нисам Енглески! Ya sam Velski. Nisam Angleeski ;-)) Or try this
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 13:26:17 GMT
All the Swedes I met were Welsh supportive and the Italian lad in my apartment block grinned from ear to ear when I told him where I was from. We're finally on the map.
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Post by gwernybwch on Nov 23, 2016 17:11:35 GMT
How will we get on with the lingo over there? I won't try to learn Serbian. Everyone in Stockholm just showed off with how good their English was but Malaga was good for my basic Spanish. No need to learn Serbian. Just go to the nearest Irish theme bar and eat and drink there.......
With translation apps and online maps and conversion apps on smart phones, travelling overseas has become much, much easier. I'm a bit 'old school' and still take a Lonely Planet / Rough Guide and phrase book with me just in case. And of course money talks and hand gestures go along way. Of course Welsh people now that the ultimate global conversation starter, just say "I'm from Wales, like GARETH BALE"......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 13:54:32 GMT
Serbia's take on fish and chips will be of interest to me!
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 25, 2016 10:34:24 GMT
How will we get on with the lingo over there? I won't try to learn Serbian. Everyone in Stockholm just showed off with how good their English was but Malaga was good for my basic Spanish. When I went to Croatia I learnt the basics: Hello - Bok Thank you - Hvala Cheers! - Ziveli Beer - pivo Always try and learn a bit of local lingo when I go abroad. Certainly breaks the ice a bit when you try before asking if they speak English. I believe the pronounciation is the same in Serbian but the spelling is in cyrillic?
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