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Post by evans1282 on Oct 16, 2024 22:32:44 GMT
I can see a written warning if a popular office person. The way this country has gone the person who made the error will probably get a pay out for "emotional distress" FFS 1970's calling!Can they have their gammon back! |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 17, 2024 7:57:03 GMT
The way this country has gone the person who made the error will probably get a pay out for "emotional distress" FFS 1970's calling!Can they have their gammon back! You really are quite adept at recycling words like beige, gammon etc. Can you not start thinking for yourself? |
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Post by evans1282 on Oct 17, 2024 11:52:00 GMT
FFS 1970's calling!Can they have their gammon back! You really are quite adept at recycling words like beige, gammon etc. Can you not start thinking for yourself? Thinking for yourself does not mean you can't agree with others.Beige and Gammon are useful short hand for people with certain opinions.I get " lefty" "Nat" and "woke" I chose to embrace them! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 17, 2024 13:15:20 GMT
1 mistake shouldn't result in a sacking. These are real people's lives. Everyone has made mistakes in work, it happens. This is football not life or death
Make sure it never happens again then move on
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Post by Belle Vue on Oct 17, 2024 14:05:39 GMT
Pretty monumental mistake mind you !!!
How do you know if he / she won’t do it again?
While I don’t wish anyone to lose their job how to you think the players feel ??
2 years hard graft - sacrifices - missing club matches etc
Just pause and have a little think of the ramifications
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Post by kracken88 on Oct 17, 2024 14:25:53 GMT
Have a think of the ramifications of sacking someone who might have kids and a mortgage for one clerical error,it's a fucking football match have some humanity,and anyway the Czechs were much better than us and deserve their qualification, personally I don't think it would have mattered had the two played .
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Post by quetzal on Oct 17, 2024 14:33:30 GMT
Have a think of the ramifications of sacking someone who might have kids and a mortgage for one clerical error,it's a fucking football match have some humanity,and anyway the Czechs were much better than us and deserve their qualification, personally I don't think it would have mattered had the two played . 6 players was two. Colwill and Beck. The other 4 non starters. We’re getting a draw ant least imo. Horrific mistake. Like someone said because of woke culture and human rights in UK a sacking would legally not stand up. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 17, 2024 14:48:30 GMT
Human and workers rights are woke. Heard it all now.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 17, 2024 15:18:47 GMT
Have a think of the ramifications of sacking someone who might have kids and a mortgage for one clerical error,it's a fucking football match have some humanity,and anyway the Czechs were much better than us and deserve their qualification, personally I don't think it would have mattered had the two played . 6 players was two. Colwill and Beck. The other 4 non starters. We’re getting a draw ant least imo. Horrific mistake. Like someone said because of woke culture and human rights in UK a sacking would legally not stand up. Weird nonsense about "woke" aside, I imagine Ed Turns was in with a shout of starting |
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Post by jackanapes on Oct 17, 2024 15:49:16 GMT
People demanding sackings and the people arguing nothing should be done are both wrong. This seems to suggest a failure of processes. Something like submitting a key document should be checked and signed off by two people. One can make a mistake. It should be virtually impossible for two people to make a mistake like this. Often these things are not seen as an issue until there’s a big cock up. That’s what boring processes are for - to avoid disasters.
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Post by welshrover on Oct 17, 2024 16:09:58 GMT
You really are quite adept at recycling words like beige, gammon etc. Can you not start thinking for yourself? Thinking for yourself does not mean you can't agree with others.Beige and Gammon are useful short hand for people with certain opinions.I get " lefty" "Nat" and "woke" I chose to embrace them! To be fair I could think of a few words for you. |
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Post by twofootedtackle on Oct 17, 2024 20:20:52 GMT
Have a think of the ramifications of sacking someone who might have kids and a mortgage for one clerical error,it's a fucking football match have some humanity,and anyway the Czechs were much better than us and deserve their qualification, personally I don't think it would have mattered had the two played . This isn’t how the real world works. Life is brutal and mistakes of this profile and magnitude should result in dismissal. |
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Post by Belle Vue on Oct 17, 2024 20:37:37 GMT
Well said !!
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Post by ddirpytnop on Oct 17, 2024 21:51:05 GMT
I trust that those who calling for the sacking of whoever made the mistake will do the honourable thing and resign when they next make a mistake - any mistake - in work. Not to do so would smack of hypocracy- and you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?
From what I have heard, this sounds like a simple mistake that most of us have made at some point. The wrong attachment was sent with the email. Usually doesn't have such unfortunate consequences but hey, shit happens.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 17, 2024 22:08:16 GMT
Turned into a little hornets nest where nobody can agree. Nobody will get sacked anyway. Lets move on.
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Post by hooky on Oct 18, 2024 8:39:01 GMT
I assume whoever made the error is a passionate Wales fan and has beaten themselves up over it
If bonuses are part of remuneration then they should clearly be nilled but we should move on and put a 'two eyes' system to ensure this stupid amateurish error can never happen again
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 18, 2024 18:05:22 GMT
People demanding sackings and the people arguing nothing should be done are both wrong. This seems to suggest a failure of processes. Something like submitting a key document should be checked and signed off by two people. One can make a mistake. It should be virtually impossible for two people to make a mistake like this. Often these things are not seen as an issue until there’s a big cock up. That’s what boring processes are for - to avoid disasters. The difference is that some people have called for sackings, but no one has said nothing should happen |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 18, 2024 18:25:44 GMT
I trust that those who calling for the sacking of whoever made the mistake will do the honourable thing and resign when they next make a mistake - any mistake - in work. Not to do so would smack of hypocracy- and you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you? From what I have heard, this sounds like a simple mistake that most of us have made at some point. The wrong attachment was sent with the email. Usually doesn't have such unfortunate consequences but hey, shit happens. Exactly, it reeks of hypocrisy. Easy to say it when it's someone else but they'd never apply their own standards to themselves. It's funny because they'll call everyone "snowflakes" but then not be man enough to stick by their own words |
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Post by neverever on Oct 18, 2024 21:03:57 GMT
May be nothing & you get do get players out injured ( but does not seem to affect the other home nations/ROI).
But noticed the other home nations seem to be more on the ball ( a couple of weeks in some cases) when it comes to naming the lower age squads with the 15's,16's, 17's & under 19's squads.
Sorry everything gives the impression of it getting done at the last minute.
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Post by reyrey on Oct 19, 2024 7:40:28 GMT
Different when you call for a manager to be sacked is it?
They can’t have mortgages and kids then
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Post by rob on Oct 19, 2024 10:00:33 GMT
For me one of the bigger issues with the youth sides is the reluctance to fast track players,especially to the U21s.Kpakio and Giles are closer to the first team than T.Davies at Cardiff but are chosen in the U19s whilst Davies is in the U21s.Likewise Bostock plays for WBA U21s but U19s for us.Andrews is a sub for Coventry in the Championship whilst Josh Thomas struggles to make the bench at Bromley-Andrews in U19s,Thomas in U21s.We seem to be chosing players according to age for U21s rather than ability which is very naive.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 19, 2024 12:31:30 GMT
For me one of the bigger issues with the youth sides is the reluctance to fast track players,especially to the U21s.Kpakio and Giles are closer to the first team than T.Davies at Cardiff but are chosen in the U19s whilst Davies is in the U21s.Likewise Bostock plays for WBA U21s but U19s for us.Andrews is a sub for Coventry in the Championship whilst Josh Thomas struggles to make the bench at Bromley-Andrews in U19s,Thomas in U21s.We seem to be chosing players according to age for U21s rather than ability which is very naive. I imagine many of those in the u19s qill find themselves in the 21s for the next campaign |
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Post by neverever on Oct 20, 2024 11:18:03 GMT
Wales under 15's recording against Bulgaria on UTube.
The boys sang the heart out for Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau before the game started.
These Bulgarians are a far bigger in size than the Welsh boys some of who are really small but very good footballers.
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 25, 2024 21:17:55 GMT
what is the situation with the U21 age criteria some players who were in that last campaign are now 21+
what is the cut off date so for the next qualifying campaign would players like Charlie Savage Fin Stevens be too old to take part?
I know Rubin,Ed Turns Joe Low and Owen Beck would be too old as they are all 22 now
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Post by wirralwelsh on Oct 26, 2024 21:32:55 GMT
Next group will be born 2004 onward, so quite a few players involved in this campaign still eligible. Savage and Stevens will be too old though
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 26, 2024 22:33:45 GMT
Next group will be born 2004 onward, so quite a few players involved in this campaign still eligible. Savage and Stevens will be too old though cheers be interesting to see if both get involved in the full squad, cant see it unless there are injuries at this stage beck koumas colwill will be and I really rate joe low |
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Post by redwall on Nov 3, 2024 2:44:21 GMT
Hi
I know we discuss Joe Taylor's status a lot, and obviously Feeney has just switched but I've noticed a few other dual nationals who don't seem to be in our squads, some of whom are playing really well. Could someone update me on the status of these players:
Cameron Byrne-Hughes (Man United)
Joe Belmont (Brighton)
Tom Hill (Liverpool)
Jadan Raymond (Crystal Palace)
Callum Osmand (Fulham)
Luca Picotto (Fulham)
Omari Benjamin (Everton)
William Andipayan (Spurs)
Thierry Katsukunya (Aston Villa)
Thanks.
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Post by marsvolta on Nov 3, 2024 10:38:38 GMT
Hi I know we discuss Joe Taylor's status a lot, and obviously Feeney has just switched but I've noticed a few other dual nationals who don't seem to be in our squads, some of whom are playing really well. Could someone update me on the status of these players: Cameron Byrne-Hughes (Man United) Joe Belmont (Brighton) Tom Hill (Liverpool) Jadan Raymond (Crystal Palace) Callum Osmand (Fulham) Luca Picotto (Fulham) Omari Benjamin (Everton) William Andipayan (Spurs) Thierry Katsukunya (Aston Villa) Thanks. Not sure about the status of all of these but we need to remember that just because these players are dual-qualified (or treble or quadruple qualified in some cases) if doesn’t mean that they’ll all be queuing up to play for Wales. The FAW have done a great job in identifying players who are eligible for us, but that also means that some won’t be interested. If you look throughout all ages groups(including the senior team) there is a huge amount of dual-qualified players who have definitely committed to us. In regards to your post, the reality is that some of these will end up playing for us and some, but even if all 9 of the players listed here don’t end up playing for us, it will be a drop in the ocean compared to the ones who are playing for us. In cases like this, we’ve just got to accept a ‘win some-lose some’ situation. |
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Post by redwall on Nov 3, 2024 12:02:09 GMT
Agree with everything you said, but I cited those players because they're not playing for other nations and in most cases have previously played for Wales. So I was wondering if anyone here knew if these players had declined further call ups, weren't being selected by us or if they simply wanted to focus on club football for a bit.
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Post by manulike on Nov 3, 2024 12:06:10 GMT
Hi I know we discuss Joe Taylor's status a lot, and obviously Feeney has just switched but I've noticed a few other dual nationals who don't seem to be in our squads, some of whom are playing really well. Could someone update me on the status of these players: Cameron Byrne-Hughes (Man United) Joe Belmont (Brighton) Tom Hill (Liverpool) Jadan Raymond (Crystal Palace) Callum Osmand (Fulham) Luca Picotto (Fulham) Omari Benjamin (Everton) William Andipayan (Spurs) Thierry Katsukunya (Aston Villa) Thanks. Not sure about the status of all of these but we need to remember that just because these players are dual-qualified (or treble or quadruple qualified in some cases) if doesn’t mean that they’ll all be queuing up to play for Wales. The FAW have done a great job in identifying players who are eligible for us, but that also means that some won’t be interested. If you look throughout all ages groups(including the senior team) there is a huge amount of dual-qualified players who have definitely committed to us. In regards to your post, the reality is that some of these will end up playing for us and some, but even if all 9 of the players listed here don’t end up playing for us, it will be a drop in the ocean compared to the ones who are playing for us. In cases like this, we’ve just got to accept a ‘win some-lose some’ situation. I agree, that some of those will simply be more interested in their personal prospects. I am only familiar with Omari Benjamin (currently at Everton U18). Was a big prospect (plays CF) at the Gunners and moved to Everton in the Summer, I believe. Pretty sure that he was never in the U17 build-up for the Championship in Hungary 2023.
IIRC he has declared for Jamaica or Barbados
As for Tom Hill (Liverpool) - he is 22. Will be surprised if he has not been approached.
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