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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 17:58:48 GMT
The running costs of £4 million a year when set against the running costs of about £2 million a year for a typical Cat 2 academy isn't that big a difference, especially when you factor in the fact that Cat 1 academies attract a greater level of funding. I also don't see at all why it's unrealistic to expect an average of at least £4 million a year in profits from academy player sales to cover the costs of the academy - as well of course as providing low wage cost players for the 1st team. The conveyor belt is now in place, some years will be very fruitful, others less so, but at least you have a realistic prospect of the club punching above it's weight. The only other way is the Brentford way, which relies on a lot of in-house analytics expertise to spot talent elsewhere, at academy and at senior level. Brentford have that expertise right to the top of the club, seeing that that is how Matthew Benham made his fortune. The same can hardly be said of Swansea, nor the vast majority of clubs for that matter. Their success will be difficult to emulate elsewhere. Our head of recruitment Andy Scott is ex-Brentford. Whatever the status of the academy it can provide "low wage cost players for the 1st team". Newcastle are a good example with the Longstaff brothers. Leeds are plugging gaps with Shackleton, Davis, Gotts etc. plus Phillips and Clarke before them. To attribute the value of that to the extra investment in Cat 1 isn't accurate. We wouldn't lose that ability. The financial question isn't whether we can find £4m of revenue a year from the academy (which is tougher than you assume imo) but whether we get £2.5m a year more out of Cat 1 than we would out of Cat 3, given that we no longer have the additional funds available to supplement our local players with half-baked talents like McBurnie, Dan James and Steven Benda to put in the academy oven to rise. Will that extra investment be the difference in players like Rushesha, Morgan Clarke, Cian Williams, Kai Ludvigsen, Bony Jr. etc. making it here or not? Whatever our category they are the players we'll have from now on. Half a million now pays for a first team player, not an Adam King. |
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Post by iot on Feb 14, 2020 21:45:17 GMT
Incredibly naive play from swansea. They do all the hard work to get their noses in front in the 84th minute, only to then completely drop off and invite hull onto them - so much so where brewester was playing left back for most of the final few mins. It allows hull to pile on the pressure until swansea inevitably concede. Guehi and Wilmot had really poor games at the back, so rodon shouldn't be too concerened!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 22:03:33 GMT
Been an absolute shambles since September 1st. 32 points in 27 games is looking over your shoulder form.
We'd have done better with Rodon, Cabango and Lewis Webb than the hyped up English loan players tonight.
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Post by manulike on Feb 16, 2020 22:07:07 GMT
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Post by barry on Jul 22, 2020 20:56:48 GMT
Did quite well tonight.
A pleasant evening of watching football.
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Post by robin1864 on Jul 22, 2020 21:09:12 GMT
Possibility of an all-Welsh final. Would have been quite tasty, if crowds were allowed.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 22, 2020 22:05:00 GMT
Fair play to Swansea - playoffs out of nowhere - now with the prospect of a South Wales Derby final!
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Post by iot on Jul 24, 2020 20:44:20 GMT
Just watched the game, it's on youtube here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uic2qxleBfYReally glad for Swansea, I'm not confident that either side will be able to pip brentford and especially fulham, but great to have the two in the mix! I thought Roberts was brilliant, RWB is definitely his best position. Cabango was solid enough, but I think he has loads of improvement to do before he gets in front of some of our other CBs and I doubt he has the potential to do it because he just doesn't play like a footballer. He's quite awkward on the ball and looked slow on the turn, hope I'm wrong! |
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Post by manulike on Jul 26, 2020 15:52:54 GMT
#UpTheJacks
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 26, 2020 17:12:58 GMT
5 Welsh players in the squad today
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Post by fiveattheback on Jul 26, 2020 19:37:09 GMT
Stars are aligning for Swansea. Bristol miss a penalty, early red for Reading helped them get the goals, Forest capitulation and now a red card for Brentford. Swansea are going up.
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Post by dai on Jul 26, 2020 19:46:06 GMT
Lucky result. Thought Swansea were dreadful until the sending off. I would fancy Brentford to win at home tbh.
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Post by iot on Jul 26, 2020 20:19:24 GMT
Lucky result. Thought Swansea were dreadful until the sending off. I would fancy Brentford to win at home tbh. They weren't dreadful at all, they were just up against a very good, technical side. The back five formation has clearly worked really well for them, but perhaps it's not the right system against brentford as they did get dominated in midfield. I thought roberts was superb and cabango very good too. I have no idea why cooper didn't make a single change with the next game in just three days, the swans players will be knackered! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 20:45:17 GMT
Lucky result. Thought Swansea were dreadful until the sending off. I would fancy Brentford to win at home tbh. They weren't dreadful at all, they were just up against a very good, technical side. The back five formation has clearly worked really well for them, but perhaps it's not the right system against brentford as they did get dominated in midfield. I thought roberts was superb and cabango very good too. I have no idea why cooper didn't make a single change with the next game in just three days, the swans players will be knackered! He's afraid to change things when it's going well. Reactive not proactive, only makes subs when forced. |
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Post by dai on Jul 26, 2020 21:03:29 GMT
Lucky result. Thought Swansea were dreadful until the sending off. I would fancy Brentford to win at home tbh. They weren't dreadful at all, they were just up against a very good, technical side. The back five formation has clearly worked really well for them, but perhaps it's not the right system against brentford as they did get dominated in midfield. I thought roberts was superb and cabango very good too. I have no idea why cooper didn't make a single change with the next game in just three days, the swans players will be knackered! Cabango was very good, but I can't say I noticed Roberts doing much. |
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Post by barneycat1 on Jul 26, 2020 22:07:48 GMT
Lucky result. Thought Swansea were dreadful until the sending off. I would fancy Brentford to win at home tbh. Swansea had 60% possession, more shots than Brentford, missed a penalty, should have had another when the keeper brought down Brewster. Brentford had a few misses early doors but they didn't do much else. |
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Post by barry on Jul 27, 2020 17:05:32 GMT
Lucky result. Thought Swansea were dreadful until the sending off. I would fancy Brentford to win at home tbh. Swansea had 60% possession, more shots than Brentford, missed a penalty, should have had another when the keeper brought down Brewster. Brentford had a few misses early doors but they didn't do much else. Hit the inside of the post and the ball bounced back to the keeper. Like you said, they didn't do much else. Here's how to people on ignore. Not easy to find here. Click on the username. Click on the cog next to Send Message. Select Block User. |
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Post by iot on Jul 29, 2020 18:10:15 GMT
Interesting that Swansea appear to have adopted a much stronger Welsh identity recently. Historically, they've been connected more to a British identity with union jacks at the ground and infamously a small loyalist, far right group who I gather were down in London a couple of months ago to protect Churchill's statue! I know it's always been a mix, with a strong following further west as well, but that's been the perception. Interesting then that over the last decade or so hymns and arias has been one of the main chants.
Over these play off games they've plastered the dressing room with welsh flags and apparently they're trying to pump up the players tonight with Yma o hyd and other Welsh classics. Isn't that quite a strange tactic for a predominantly english group of players? Isn't framing it as an england v wales game counterproductive? Or does the fact that lots of the players aren't welsh not really matter because they can respect the fact they're representing a welsh club and what it means for the welsh fans? strange one
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jul 29, 2020 18:26:51 GMT
Interesting that Swansea appear to have adopted a much stronger Welsh identity recently. Historically, they've been connected more to a British identity with union jacks at the ground and infamously a small loyalist, far right group who I gather were down in London a couple of months ago to protect Churchill's statue! I know it's always been a mix, with a strong following further west as well, but that's been the perception. Interesting then that over the last decade or so hymns and arias has been one of the main chants. Over these play off games they've plastered the dressing room with welsh flags and apparently they're trying to pump up the players tonight with Yma o hyd and other Welsh classics. Isn't that quite a strange tactic for a predominantly english group of players? Isn't framing it as an england v wales game counterproductive? Or does the fact that lots of the players aren't welsh not really matter because they can respect the fact they're representing a welsh club and what it means for the welsh fans? strange one The BNP lot look an embarrassment. Horrendous how any person with knowledge of Cymru can even slightly support Churc*ill. Yeah glad they’re learning their identity .....slowly. Yeah i should think it’s to create a siege mentality. Hopefully it’s here to stay. Also perhaps the US and Brasil Swansea flags are there to show how ‘big’ the club is. Edit- Scratch what I’ve just said, they’ve a cut-out of Boris Johnson in the dressing room. i’ll support the Welsh players, but not the club. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 29, 2020 18:43:38 GMT
I saw their changing room videos/photos and it was very Welsh. Fe godwn ni eto on the the flags and everything. That along with the fact that they now have many Welsh players in their squad makes it hard for me as Cardiff fan. I actually feel more in tune with Swansea's current identity seeing that from them, than I do with the identity of the Cardiff set up at the moment - a very strange feeling for sure.
That aside, really rooting for the Swans tonight, would be great for Wales to have Cabango/Roberts/Cullen to be involved in a playoff final
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Post by insertname on Jul 29, 2020 18:45:28 GMT
Interesting that Swansea appear to have adopted a much stronger Welsh identity recently. Historically, they've been connected more to a British identity with union jacks at the ground and infamously a small loyalist, far right group who I gather were down in London a couple of months ago to protect Churchill's statue! I know it's always been a mix, with a strong following further west as well, but that's been the perception. Interesting then that over the last decade or so hymns and arias has been one of the main chants. Over these play off games they've plastered the dressing room with welsh flags and apparently they're trying to pump up the players tonight with Yma o hyd and other Welsh classics. Isn't that quite a strange tactic for a predominantly english group of players? Isn't framing it as an england v wales game counterproductive? Or does the fact that lots of the players aren't welsh not really matter because they can respect the fact they're representing a welsh club and what it means for the welsh fans? strange one You can have an appreciation for the culture you live amongst I guess. Perhaps it’s a bit more of a push for the likes of Brewster who is simply passing through. Ultimately though if there is one area that the Welsh should excel at it’s rousing triumph in adversity through song and they’ll need underdog spirit in buckets tonight as they will be heavily unfancied. You don’t need to be Welsh to buy into that, plenty of fans of opposing sides talk about the effect the Welsh anthem in Cardiff has on them etc so it seems like as good a tactic as any to me. Perhaps draw the line at a reading of Phil Bennet’s infamous monologue though 😂 |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jul 29, 2020 18:48:31 GMT
Our Ryan at the game as well.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jul 29, 2020 18:48:58 GMT
Interesting that Swansea appear to have adopted a much stronger Welsh identity recently. Historically, they've been connected more to a British identity with union jacks at the ground and infamously a small loyalist, far right group who I gather were down in London a couple of months ago to protect Churchill's statue! I know it's always been a mix, with a strong following further west as well, but that's been the perception. Interesting then that over the last decade or so hymns and arias has been one of the main chants. Over these play off games they've plastered the dressing room with welsh flags and apparently they're trying to pump up the players tonight with Yma o hyd and other Welsh classics. Isn't that quite a strange tactic for a predominantly english group of players? Isn't framing it as an england v wales game counterproductive? Or does the fact that lots of the players aren't welsh not really matter because they can respect the fact they're representing a welsh club and what it means for the welsh fans? strange one Someone needs to tell their Twitter admin that... |
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Post by dai on Jul 29, 2020 19:01:54 GMT
Told you so.
Completely imploded.
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Post by gimli on Jul 29, 2020 19:10:50 GMT
Dropped Cabango and the defence has fallen to pieces!
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 29, 2020 19:26:43 GMT
Sorry to burst the bubble of the changing room love in:
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Post by iot on Jul 29, 2020 19:36:03 GMT
Sorry to burst the bubble of the changing room love in: That's more like the Swansea I know, fuckin hell! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 29, 2020 19:52:47 GMT
Deleted now but it was a life size cut out of Boris Johnson by a tactics board in a Swansea shirt. Shame it’s gone, some of the comments were hilarious
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Post by cadno on Jul 29, 2020 20:09:02 GMT
Brentford much better side  Jazz Richards, Adam Matthews, Ethan Ampadu, Jonny Williams, Emyr Huws, Matt Smith, Marley Watkins, George Williams Gwion Edwards Get a few of these in please Swans :-) |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Jul 29, 2020 20:20:35 GMT
Yep, scanning the Forest Green Rovers released player list is the sure fire way to secure promotion to the Prem for next season! When are Swansea going to finally learn that their raison d'etre is to provide complimentary playing time to any Welsh qualified professional footballer that is struggling to find it elsewhere?
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