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Post by 1983 on May 14, 2017 17:12:13 GMT
Well done Swansea City 7th season in the top flight coming
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 7:51:19 GMT
Is Jack to a King worth a look? I like a good sports documentary.
I'm going to get some stick for this but why are they called the Jacks? Despite not being a Bluebird, I am from a family of Cardiff fans...
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Post by cymroircarn on May 15, 2017 8:08:08 GMT
Is Jack to a King worth a look? I like a good sports documentary. I'm going to get some stick for this but why are they called the Jacks? Despite not being a Bluebird, I am from a family of Cardiff fans... If your family support Cardiff, watch it on rewind . It has a better ending....! :-D |
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Post by texan on May 15, 2017 9:48:40 GMT
I'm going to get some stick for this but why are they called the Jacks? Its down to Swansea's famous seafaring history. Before the invention of waterproof clothing sailors used to soak their clothing in tar in order to give them some protection from the elements whilst at sea, this earned them the nickname of a Tar, or a Jack-Tar. Up to the turn of the last century mariners (specifically those sailing with either the Merchant or Royal Navy) were always known to the public (and amongst themselves) as Jack-Tars. During this period, sailors from Swansea were very highly regarded for their hard work and mariner skills, so much so that they were often allowed to join the crew of any ship going simply off the reputation of coming from Swansea and being a 'Swansea Jack-Tar' or...of course...Swansea Jack! Either that or they were named after a dog... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_Jack |
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Post by alarch on May 15, 2017 10:34:30 GMT
I've always preferred the dog story myself...
Although there's no immediate obvious benefit for Welsh football (not least because no Welsh players have played since Taylor left) in Swansea staying up, it is good news for sure in the long run. The U23s won promotion to the top division at a canter - and typically involved 4 or 5 Welsh players in their starting eleven - many in their teens or just turned 20. The proportion of Welsh players in the U18s is even higher (including the likes of Liam Cullen). Not only that the Swans have development centres all over South Wales, extending into previous barren territories such as Ceredigion. Alex Samuel, who's just joined Stevenage after a successful spell at Newport, was an Aberystwyth Town youth product.
With the academy's future being secured (for the time being anyway) it seems to me to only a matter of when not if, Swansea start making a greater contribution to the Welsh cause.
I'm hoping Daniel James gets a run out against West Brom on Sunday, now that it's a dead rubber match.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on May 15, 2017 10:48:36 GMT
I've always preferred the dog story myself... Although there's no immediate obvious benefit for Welsh football (not least because no Welsh players have played since Taylor left) in Swansea staying up, it is good news for sure in the long run. The U23s won promotion to the top division at a canter - and typically involved 4 or 5 Welsh players in their starting eleven - many in their teens or just turned 20. The proportion of Welsh players in the U18s is even higher (including the likes of Liam Cullen). Not only that the Swans have development centres all over South Wales, extending into previous barren territories such as Ceredigion. Alex Samuel, who's just joined Stevenage after a successful spell at Newport, was an Aberystwyth Town youth product. With the academy's future being secured (for the time being anyway) it seems to me to only a matter of when not if, Swansea start making a greater contribution to the Welsh cause. I'm hoping Daniel James gets a run out against West Brom on Sunday, now that it's a dead rubber match. I thought I read on here most of the under 23's team are Scottish? |
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Post by alarch on May 15, 2017 10:58:21 GMT
It's true that there's a fair few Scottish players (McBurnie, Kingsley, King and Biabi spring to mind) at Swanse. The club have close ties with Falkirk, who have an excellent academy and give their youngsters a chance to play adult football from an early age. It would be great if Swansea could have such a relationship with Wrexham or Newport.
In the meantime, Swansea, like most, if not all, Premier League clubs, have a twin strategy of developing local talent and scouting for talent further afield. As the academy beds in there should be more emphasis on the former rather than the latter. It's telling that almost all the Welsh contingent of the U23s are in their teens or have just turned 20 - so the prospects for Welsh talent at Swansea are looking good. Even if they don't make the grade at Swansea, I would expect the "rejects" to move on to a higher standard of club than has been the case in the past. The WPL was the destination for most Swansea discards until pretty recently.
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Post by gorechwarecydchware on May 15, 2017 11:09:42 GMT
Jack to a King is worth a watch, but treat it with a pinch of salt. They've missed out huge chunks of the clubs rise to the Premier Lg (Jackett & Sousa) and heaped too much praise on themselves. It is/was essentially a marketing tool to attract new owners - which they successfully managed at the cost of their reputation and their relationship with SCFC Supporters Trust.
Too much greed in football
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Post by welshiron on May 15, 2017 11:11:10 GMT
Probably better news for Scotland and Wales especially in the short term
As stated many times before I think it is disgusting that teams like Swansea and Cardiff have no local players or even players from their wn country playing for them
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Post by vandenhauwe on May 15, 2017 11:36:18 GMT
10 are welsh and 6 are scottish in the squad so better news for wales.dan james and Liam cullen in particular look decent talents!
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Post by llannerch on May 15, 2017 11:38:13 GMT
It's true that there's a fair few Scottish players (McBurnie, Kingsley, King and Biabi spring to mind) at Swanse. The club have close ties with Falkirk, who have an excellent academy and give their youngsters a chance to play adult football from an early age. It would be great if Swansea could have such a relationship with Wrexham or Newport. In the meantime, Swansea, like most, if not all, Premier League clubs, have a twin strategy of developing local talent and scouting for talent further afield. As the academy beds in there should be more emphasis on the former rather than the latter. It's telling that almost all the Welsh contingent of the U23s are in their teens or have just turned 20 - so the prospects for Welsh talent at Swansea are looking good. Even if they don't make the grade at Swansea, I would expect the "rejects" to move on to a higher standard of club than has been the case in the past. The WPL was the destination for most Swansea discards until pretty recently. I suppose it's good that Newport stayed in the league. They remain the shop window if Swansea want to loan out the next Sheehan or McBurnie (or Cardiff, the next Rhys Healey for that matter) which they probably wouldn't if they are in the Conference Premier. Probably helps Swansea a little bit to have a local league club available. Wrtexham used to beenfit from Manchester United in a similar way (and partly due to Darren Ferguson's presence there) |
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Post by vandenhauwe on May 15, 2017 11:38:23 GMT
Toulon squad has 5 players from the swans in there not bad Considering a few on here say we don't have many welsh lads coming through!!
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Post by iot on May 15, 2017 12:30:45 GMT
The current first team situation at Swansea is disappointing, but their PL status has undoubtedly been a good thing for Welsh football. Ashley Williams had been steadily impressing in the lower leagues for years but no PL team took a chance on him. His exposure to PL football with Swansea has improved him so much, I can't remember the last time he had a poor game for us - and there were a few dodgy moments at the beginning. They also exposed Taylor to PL football which I don't think would have happened otherwise, and Ben Davies was able to get a full season in the PL and prove himself at that level, at the age of 19.
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Post by underwood on May 15, 2017 12:52:04 GMT
Jack to a King is worth a watch, but treat it with a pinch of salt. They've missed out huge chunks of the clubs rise to the Premier Lg (Jackett & Sousa) and heaped too much praise on themselves. It is/was essentially a marketing tool to attract new owners - which they successfully managed at the cost of their reputation and their relationship with SCFC Supporters Trust. Too much greed in football Maybe there should be a documentary about how many businesses went bust & how many lives were ruined as a result of only getting a penny in the pound when they went into Administration - TWICE? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 12:57:21 GMT
Is Jack to a King worth a look? I like a good sports documentary. I'm going to get some stick for this but why are they called the Jacks? Despite not being a Bluebird, I am from a family of Cardiff fans... If your family support Cardiff, watch it on rewind . It has a better ending....! :-D I tend to keep an eye on Cardiff's results but that's about as far as it goes. We had interesting experiences at Ninian Park with Hereford in the late 90's. |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on May 15, 2017 14:25:23 GMT
It's true that there's a fair few Scottish players (McBurnie, Kingsley, King and Biabi spring to mind) at Swanse. The club have close ties with Falkirk, who have an excellent academy and give their youngsters a chance to play adult football from an early age. It would be great if Swansea could have such a relationship with Wrexham or Newport. In the meantime, Swansea, like most, if not all, Premier League clubs, have a twin strategy of developing local talent and scouting for talent further afield. As the academy beds in there should be more emphasis on the former rather than the latter. It's telling that almost all the Welsh contingent of the U23s are in their teens or have just turned 20 - so the prospects for Welsh talent at Swansea are looking good. Even if they don't make the grade at Swansea, I would expect the "rejects" to move on to a higher standard of club than has been the case in the past. The WPL was the destination for most Swansea discards until pretty recently. Thanks for the very informative answer bro. |
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Post by manulike on May 15, 2017 20:33:46 GMT
Toulon squad has 5 players from the swans in there not bad Considering a few on here say we don't have many welsh lads coming through!! I totally agree. And despite being a Northerner myself, any blowing of the Welsh trumpet is good for me. Despite our endeavours in France last year, I am sure that if you say "Swansea City" to a 10 year-old in Outer Mongolia or in Tanzania, he will know exactly what you are talking about - if you say "Cardiff" or "Wales" you will still get strange looks - I know, as i live in Cardiff and I often say I come from "Swansea City" and the reply is usually "Sigurdson". I then go on to say "Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey"... |
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Post by ontheroadagain on May 15, 2017 21:54:25 GMT
Swansea U23 won the Premier U23 League Cup this evening.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 7:41:31 GMT
I watched the trailer last night. Hope to squeeze the film in one evening. One lady put vodka on her Weetabix. Classy.
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Post by mikeduffy1 on May 16, 2017 20:08:02 GMT
I've always preferred the dog story myself... Although there's no immediate obvious benefit for Welsh football (not least because no Welsh players have played since Taylor left) in Swansea staying up, it is good news for sure in the long run. The U23s won promotion to the top division at a canter - and typically involved 4 or 5 Welsh players in their starting eleven - many in their teens or just turned 20. The proportion of Welsh players in the U18s is even higher (including the likes of Liam Cullen). Not only that the Swans have development centres all over South Wales, extending into previous barren territories such as Ceredigion. Alex Samuel, who's just joined Stevenage after a successful spell at Newport, was an Aberystwyth Town youth product. With the academy's future being secured (for the time being anyway) it seems to me to only a matter of when not if, Swansea start making a greater contribution to the Welsh cause. I'm hoping Daniel James gets a run out against West Brom on Sunday, now that it's a dead rubber match. Hardly a dead rubber. 3 points may take The Swans to 15th place with each place being worth £1 million |
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Post by conwy10 on May 16, 2017 20:56:28 GMT
Probably better news for Scotland and Wales especially in the short term As stated many times before I think it is disgusting that teams like Swansea and Cardiff have no local players or even players from their wn country playing for them I completely agree with this. There should be a lot more Welsh players at least on the fringes of both squads. I love Swansea being in the prem because they're Welsh but I feel they've lost a what of what made them special. They became successful keeping the same model. Starving teams of possession, playing patient football as a team, no matter what manager they had bought into the system and couldn't fail really. Since Laudrup changed the style they've been more direct, spent more on transfers and wages, sacked countless managers and are closer to relegation each season then Europe. |
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Post by llanred on May 16, 2017 22:32:50 GMT
I've always preferred the dog story myself... Although there's no immediate obvious benefit for Welsh football (not least because no Welsh players have played since Taylor left) in Swansea staying up, it is good news for sure in the long run. The U23s won promotion to the top division at a canter - and typically involved 4 or 5 Welsh players in their starting eleven - many in their teens or just turned 20. The proportion of Welsh players in the U18s is even higher (including the likes of Liam Cullen). Not only that the Swans have development centres all over South Wales, extending into previous barren territories such as Ceredigion. Alex Samuel, who's just joined Stevenage after a successful spell at Newport, was an Aberystwyth Town youth product. With the academy's future being secured (for the time being anyway) it seems to me to only a matter of when not if, Swansea start making a greater contribution to the Welsh cause. I'm hoping Daniel James gets a run out against West Brom on Sunday, now that it's a dead rubber match. Hardly a dead rubber. 3 points may take The Swans to 15th place with each place being worth £1 million I think each place is actually worth £1.9 million. They are guaranteed £7.6 million for 17th place but mathematically could get up to 13 th and get £15.2 m. Unlikely but the remaining games are certainly not dead from a financial point of view! |
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Post by wirralwelsh on May 21, 2017 5:27:03 GMT
10 are welsh and 6 are scottish in the squad so better news for wales.dan james and Liam cullen in particular look decent talents! To be more accurate 7 welsh , 5 scotch, 2 english, a Swede and a Slovenian. Swansea a very multicultural place these days! James is certainly the pick of the welsh qualified players, hopefully will get some minutes in today. |
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Post by manulike on Dec 9, 2017 16:56:23 GMT
Mazal tov!
1-0 to the Swans.
Horrible match and undeserved victory ... but now on 12 points, which is the same tally of points they had at Christmas, last year ... so ... who knows ... we might have two Welsh teams in the Premiership next year ... that is if City can tame Mr Edwards on Monday night ;=)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 13:02:09 GMT
I wonder if the Swansea Board regret the way they showed Alan Curtis the door on Clement's request now.
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Post by biwmares on Dec 21, 2017 16:58:29 GMT
I wonder if the Swansea Board regret the way they showed Alan Curtis the door on Clement's request now. I thought he was still at Swansea in some capacity?, his wiki page does say he monitors the progress of players out on loan. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 21, 2017 17:59:06 GMT
I wonder if the Swansea Board regret the way they showed Alan Curtis the door on Clement's request now. I thought he was still at Swansea in some capacity?, his wiki page does say he monitors the progress of players out on loan. I thought that as well. A role created to keep him there but out of the way as his role is to monitor players out on loan. |
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Post by manulike on Dec 30, 2017 17:06:11 GMT
Impressive victory.
Two points from safety.
The Great Escape is on!
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Post by pendragon on Dec 30, 2017 19:14:39 GMT
Yes, a very well done to Swansea City today! Maybe we should have looked into getting Carvalhal! Happy New Year Swans 😀
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Post by gwernybwch on Dec 30, 2017 21:59:42 GMT
Yes, a very well done to Swansea City today! Maybe we should have looked into getting Carvalhal! Happy New Year Swans 😀 Carvalhal was a very average player and has only previously managed in tin pot leagues. We all know that the only type of person that could possibly manage Wales now is one that inspires players by having won the Champions League as a player and have gained coaching experience as a Trainee Assistant Manager by them to fifth in the league. PS: Well done Swans! |
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