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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 7:49:08 GMT
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Post by joseywales37 on May 5, 2018 23:30:59 GMT
Went to watch Swans U23s in PL2 cup final last Friday. Not greatest game ever, and certainly not greatest result for Swans. But they play Welsh youngsters at back, as seems to the norm for Swans now, with Aaron Lewis, Matthew Blake, Jack Evans and Cian Harries, with Dan James in attack.
They were up against a big strong looking Villa side and pretty much dealt with every Villa attack apart from 1 or 2 half decent chances.
Aaron Lewis looks to me like he could be in for good career in particular at full back, very involved in both attack and defence , although went down under challenge a little too easy on 1 or 2 occasions (Don't think he was helped mentally on night tho with an entertaining kid, must of only been about 7, winding him up by calling him Bellerin all night and saying go on Hector etc lol).
In all thought all 4 lads in defence did well. Add to that there are Welsh lads waiting in wings for Swans U23s besides the likes of Joe Rodon out on loan.
Dan James was again speedy and slippery, some nice turns and a few runs at defence here and there, 1 in particular where he looked from where I sat like he was brought down in area, but booked for an apparent dive. Wasn't best ive seen him by long way, but that was mainly imo because the service from midfield was very poor on the night, with many long wasted balls that really gave him no chance, anything created was normally from his own work. I'm still convinced he will be near 1st team squad next season and will do well if the chance comes, seems to have confidence to have a crack.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 13:31:05 GMT
www.bbc.com/sport/football/43353971Southampton manager Mark Hughes says Swansea are "the team we have to damage" as the two sides fight to stay in the Premier League. Victory for Southampton would leave them three points clear of 18th-placed Swansea with one game remaining, and with a better goal difference. "I think it is just calmness. You have got to deal with pressure, you have got to think clearly," Hughes said. "It is still very much in our hands and very quickly we will go again." Lawro's predictions for crucial midweek fixtures Swansea have not won in their last seven outings, but finish the campaign with two home games, including hosting relegated Stoke on the final day. Manager Carlos Carvalhal said he believes in his side, adding: "This is something really bad. When it is in your hands to do it, let's do it. "This is the way. And I believe we can do it."
WHAT COULD HAPPEN?If Southampton win:West Brom would be relegated. Southampton will move to 16th on goal difference, above Huddersfield. They can then be sure of safety by avoiding defeat against Manchester City on Sunday. Swansea would remain in the relegation zone and need to beat Stoke in their final game - while Huddersfield or Southampton slip up - to stay up.
If Swansea win:West Brom would be relegated. The Swans would move to 16th and would be sure of safety by avoiding defeat against Stoke on Sunday. Southampton would drop into the relegation zone and would need to beat Manchester City on the final daywhile hoping Huddersfield or Swansea slip up. If it's a draw:Southampton would stay 17th. They would then stay up if they beat Manchester City or match Swansea's result on the final day. Swansea would go down if they lose on the final day, but stay up if they better Southampton's result. West Brom would need to win their final game, and hope both Southampton and Swansea lose. Ups, downs and the race for Europe - the full promotion & relegation picture across England and Scotland TEAM NEWSSwansea could make changes to their side for the crucial match. Aside from Kyle Bartley, who has a knee ligament injury, he has a full strength squad to choose from. Southampton defender Maya Yoshida is suspended after he was sent off against Everton on Saturday. Hughes could again be without captain Steven Davis due to an Achilles injury, while Mario Lemina is doubtful with a hamstring problem. MATCH FACTS - Head-to-head Swansea have won just two of their 11 previous Premier League meetings with Southampton, failing to score in seven of those games. The Saints have lost just one of their five Premier League visits to Liberty Stadium (W3 D1), keeping four clean sheets - however, that one defeat was in their last visit last season. Mark Hughes has beaten Swansea once in the top flight already this season, winning 2-1 in December when he was manager of Stoke. SwanseaOnly Stoke (13) are on a longer winless run in the Premier League than Swansea (D3 L4). They have failed to score in seven different top-flight games at home - no side has failed to do so in more (level with Huddersfield and Newcastle). The Swans are starting a Premier League match in the relegation zone for the first time since 3 March. SouthamptonThey have won just one of their last 10 league matches. Only West Bromwich Albion (26) have dropped more points from winning positions than Southampton in the Premier League this season (21) - eight of those 21 have been in Mark Hughes' six games in charge. Six of their last 10 away Premier League victories have been against sides starting that day in the relegation zone.
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Post by welshiron on May 8, 2018 13:32:27 GMT
Ammanford v Llantwit Major 6.30
Huge 6 pointer at the top of the table.
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Post by CrackityJones on May 8, 2018 13:55:16 GMT
Massive game tonight. Swansea really need to score first or I think it'll be curtains.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on May 8, 2018 14:47:01 GMT
Its going to be a fascinating game, as Southampton cant really afford to draw and then rely on getting something against Man City, even though they drew with Huddersfield on the weekend. Swansea also cannot really afford to draw, but it may not be the end of sports even if they do draw. They most certainly cannot lose! I cant see where the Swans are going to get any goals from though, they have been toothless these last few weeks, but fingers crossed they can nick a win tonight.
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Post by iot on May 8, 2018 19:37:59 GMT
Credit where it's due, they're playing with a couple of Welshmen again tonight. I wasn't feeling hopeful seeing andy king starting, but he's been playing well. I haven't watched roberts in his last couple of games but I haven't been all that impressed with his first half performance in this one. He made one very good defensive contribution but has lost the ball a couple of times and hasn't really looked to do anything positive with the ball.
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 8, 2018 20:14:37 GMT
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Post by chislenko on May 8, 2018 20:29:51 GMT
Watching the game in my local and as a Welshman it pains me to say it but they look a poor team.
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 8, 2018 20:33:26 GMT
Watching the game in my local and as a Welshman it pains me to say it but they look a poor team. They're shite and deserve to go down. It is a crying shame though. |
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Post by cymru98 on May 8, 2018 20:38:43 GMT
Would have been good to have a epl welsh Derby.
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 8, 2018 20:39:56 GMT
Huddersfield have excellent team spirit, I can't see them failing to get a point from the last 2 despite the opposition. Swansea's only hope is to spank Stoke, but I predict they won't even beat them.
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Post by dai on May 8, 2018 20:45:11 GMT
Gutted. Would have loved to see two Welsh teams in the prem again.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 20:47:29 GMT
Huddersfield have excellent team spirit, I can't see them failing to get a point from the last 2 despite the opposition. Swansea's only hope is to spank Stoke, but I predict they won't even beat them. Really? I can see Huddersfield losing to Chelsea away then Wenger's last game. If they lose both and Swans win, Swansea will stay up on goal difference Swansea's biggest demon is scoring at the moment. Stoke will be hard, but I'm still optimistic it could well be in their hands |
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 8, 2018 20:48:40 GMT
Huddersfield have excellent team spirit, I can't see them failing to get a point from the last 2 despite the opposition. Swansea's only hope is to spank Stoke, but I predict they won't even beat them. Really? I can see Huddersfield losing to Chelsea away then Wenger's last game. If they lose both and Swans win, Swansea will stay up on goal difference Swansea's biggest demon is scoring at the moment. Stoke will be hard, but I'm still optimistic it could well be in their hands I hope you're right mate. |
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Post by manulike on May 8, 2018 21:34:30 GMT
Sad days.
Hope I am wrong, but its not looking good.
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Post by fiveattheback on May 8, 2018 21:44:59 GMT
Huddersfield have excellent team spirit, I can't see them failing to get a point from the last 2 despite the opposition. Swansea's only hope is to spank Stoke, but I predict they won't even beat them. Really? I can see Huddersfield losing to Chelsea away then Wenger's last game. If they lose both and Swans win, Swansea will stay up on goal difference Swansea's biggest demon is scoring at the moment. Stoke will be hard, but I'm still optimistic it could well be in their hands A point and Huddersfield are safe, they won't roll over for Wenger's last game like Burnley did |
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Post by CrackityJones on May 8, 2018 22:14:37 GMT
Allen to score the winner.
...in his own net.
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Post by bale-droed on May 8, 2018 22:48:08 GMT
It's a fair comment saying Swansea are a poor team in 2018 and have overachieved in 2018. They'll be back. The club is run eell and there's some great young players. I predict promotion in two seasons 3 max.
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Post by cymroircarn on May 9, 2018 5:14:03 GMT
It's a fair comment saying Swansea are a poor team in 2018 and have overachieved in 2018. They'll be back. The club is run eell and there's some great young players. I predict promotion in two seasons 3 max. The club was run well. It has gone downhill since the new investors and they have lost their identity since hiring Monk. Their record signing has contributed nothing. Goals are their problem so I can’t see them catching Southampton I believe their best chance is 2 defeats to Huddersfield and they beat Stoke last home game of the season. |
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Post by jbt95 on May 9, 2018 7:16:26 GMT
I love the optimism of catching Southampton, but they are +9 better off with more GF! Unless they totally think they are done and Man City put in their performance of the season to try and extend the record amount of goals scored in a PL 38 game season, Swansea have no chance of turning that around! We'd need them to win 9-0 and us to somehow score 1 and not concede!
Huddersfield got 2 tough games, away at Chelsea 3 days after a very hard game v Man City. Chelsea are 2 points behind Spurs for CL with 2 games left. Man City had the Trophy lift on their minds. Huddersfield have had to travel. Chelsea haven't. Chelsea just beat the Champions League finalists who score tons of goals to nil. If Chelsea don't win fair play to Huddersfield, but I can't nothing other than a comfortable CFC win. Huddersfield struggle to score just as much as Swansea and have failed to score in 13/18 away matches this season.
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Post by richierich333 on May 9, 2018 7:56:47 GMT
Huddersfield have excellent team spirit, I can't see them failing to get a point from the last 2 despite the opposition. Swansea's only hope is to spank Stoke, but I predict they won't even beat them. If Huddersfield lose both games even by 1 then a Swansea win would see them stay up I think (?) This would negate the necessity to put loads on Stoke and a scrappy 1-0 would do. |
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Post by jbt95 on May 9, 2018 8:35:46 GMT
Huddersfield have excellent team spirit, I can't see them failing to get a point from the last 2 despite the opposition. Swansea's only hope is to spank Stoke, but I predict they won't even beat them. If Huddersfield lose both games even by 1 then a Swansea win would see them stay up I think (?) This would negate the necessity to put loads on Stoke and a scrappy 1-0 would do. Yeah goals or scorelines don't come into it. Huddersfield are 3 points above with a worse goal difference. 2 defeats for them and victory for Swansea would save the Swans. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on May 9, 2018 10:31:49 GMT
Disappointing but not a complete surprise. This has been coming for a couple of years. From a well managed club to one that has lost its way recently. Poor managerial choices post Gary Monk ( perhaps Alan Curtis should have been given a proper chance ). Best players sold and inferior replacements purchased. Time to consolidate and look to bounce back next season.
No need to increase the capacity of Liberty stadium just now. Attendances will be less next season for sure if the inevitable happens.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:37:50 GMT
If Huddersfield held the champions at home then they can cause Chelsea and Arsenal problems.
Think it’s curtains for Swansea.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on May 9, 2018 11:44:21 GMT
Cant see the Swans staying up now, i think Huddersfield will get at least a point against Arsenal (who have 0 points away from home in 2018).
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Post by ae15 on May 9, 2018 12:48:21 GMT
As a Cardiff fan, I do get dismayed with the aspect of the club rivalry that is wanting the Swans to do badly because a good Swansea team is good for the national team, which I think is more important.
However, thinking more of it in the last few days, although I would want a Welsh derby in the Premier League, I think it would now be better for Welsh football if Swansea did go down.
The U23 team is punching well above their weight at 4th in the PL2, and there are so many good youngsters who would properly get their chance if they went up.
The club needs to start again and regain its roots. They've played rubbish football for years now and slowly chances for Welsh youngsters have evaporated.
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Post by alarch on May 9, 2018 13:02:09 GMT
I can't see us (Swansea that is) staying up, and quite frankly we deserve to go down. So much has been betrayed on and off the pitch. It's becoming increasingly hard to remember that in the season Swansea won promotion they averaged nearly 100 passes per game more than Arsenal - the leading passers in the Premier League at the time www.thefreelibrary.com/Swans+are+the+pass+masters+as+they+go+gunning+for+that+big+success+at...-a0257181769. Last night's performance (along with those against Man City and Spurs in the cup to mention just two) was embarrassing hoofball rubbish. I'm afraid I'm not confident of the club regaining its roots given that it's run by clueless Americans (remember Bob Bradley) and Huw Jenkins, who clearly doesn't understand what brought success to the club in the first place. From a Welsh perspective the future of the academy must be in the balance - which can only be a bad thing. And please, please don't sign Andy King - the personification of tempo-killing mediocrity. |
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Post by iot on May 9, 2018 14:19:35 GMT
I can't see us (Swansea that is) staying up, and quite frankly we deserve to go down. So much has been betrayed on and off the pitch. It's becoming increasingly hard to remember that in the season Swansea won promotion they averaged nearly 100 passes per game more than Arsenal - the leading passers in the Premier League at the time www.thefreelibrary.com/Swans+are+the+pass+masters+as+they+go+gunning+for+that+big+success+at...-a0257181769. Last night's performance (along with those against Man City and Spurs in the cup to mention just two) was embarrassing hoofball rubbish. I'm afraid I'm not confident of the club regaining its roots given that it's run by clueless Americans (remember Bob Bradley) and Huw Jenkins, who clearly doesn't understand what brought success to the club in the first place. From a Welsh perspective the future of the academy must be in the balance - which can only be a bad thing. And please, please don't sign Andy King - the personification of tempo-killing mediocrity. It was staggering how non-existent your midfield was yesterday. Clucas, King and Ki just stood round marked all game long giving no options to the CBs and forcing them to go long. What a world away from the dynamic duo of Allen and Britton in your maiden campaign where there was so much talk of bravery on the ball, collecting it from the defence and patiently transitioning up the field. I also get the feeling that Hughes tactically owned Carvalhal yesterday. Swansea were set up exactly the same way for the umpteenth time and Southampton just closed down their options, knowing the midfielders weren't good enough to take the ball under pressure. |
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Post by alarch on May 9, 2018 14:43:39 GMT
Carvalhal deliberately opted to miss out the midfield - as he has done several times this season. The tactic was to launch as many balls into the box, against an admittedly suspect Southampton defence. This with no natural header of the ball. Carvalhal is in a long line of imposters since Laudrup left - more interested in setting up to counter perceived weaknesses in the opposition than developing a pro-active gameplan. Before we were brave with the ball - no we're just craven.
I wouldn't overstate Hughes' tactical acumen - there was very little between two very limited sides, both playing dire football. The team that got their noses in front were always going to win - it just happened to be Southampton.
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