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Post by iot on Aug 31, 2021 19:41:16 GMT
I just can't get over how bad their dealings have been today. They've sold two of their best players in Lowe and Roberts for 4m, and brought in Rhys Williams. So topping up on the position they were probably strongest in, and letting go of one of their best forwards when they're scratching the barrel in that area.
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Post by welshrover on Aug 31, 2021 19:58:27 GMT
I just can't get over how bad their dealings have been today. They've sold two of their best players in Lowe and Roberts for 4m, and brought in Rhys Williams. So topping up on the position they were probably strongest in, and letting go of one of their best forwards when they're scratching the barrel in that area. Is it a fire sale, are they stuck for cash? |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Aug 31, 2021 21:46:48 GMT
I just can't get over how bad their dealings have been today. They've sold two of their best players in Lowe and Roberts for 4m, and brought in Rhys Williams. So topping up on the position they were probably strongest in, and letting go of one of their best forwards when they're scratching the barrel in that area. It's not really as simple as that, as the day and the window isn't over yet. The talk is that we're close to signing Michael Obafemi and Tariqe Fosu, and Olivier Ntcham's had a medical today. We might be strongest at centre-back, but we're playing with three this season and are going to need cover their. We need centre-backs more comfortable on the ball really, and Rhys Williams gives us that. With Jamal Lowe, he's been playing out of position upfront, I think to get the best out of him we'd need to play him out wide. Russell Martin isn't planning on playing with wingers, and Obafemi's a natural striker. He's joining for a similar fee and is significantly younger, I'm happy with that. We ideally wouldn't be selling Connor Roberts for that fee, but he's in the last year of his contract and wasn't going to sign a new one. £2.5 million is a lot of money to be turning down for him for a year, especially one in which we're not likely to be pushing for promotion. |
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Post by iot on Aug 31, 2021 22:02:35 GMT
I just can't get over how bad their dealings have been today. They've sold two of their best players in Lowe and Roberts for 4m, and brought in Rhys Williams. So topping up on the position they were probably strongest in, and letting go of one of their best forwards when they're scratching the barrel in that area. It's not really as simple as that, as the day and the window isn't over yet. The talk is that we're close to signing Michael Obafemi and Tariqe Fosu, and Olivier Ntcham's had a medical today. We might be strongest at centre-back, but we're playing with three this season and are going to need cover their. We need centre-backs more comfortable on the ball really, and Rhys Williams gives us that. With Jamal Lowe, he's been playing out of position upfront, I think to get the best out of him we'd need to play him out wide. Russell Martin isn't planning on playing with wingers, and Obafemi's a natural striker. He's joining for a similar fee and is significantly younger, I'm happy with that. We ideally wouldn't be selling Connor Roberts for that fee, but he's in the last year of his contract and wasn't going to sign a new one. £2.5 million is a lot of money to be turning down for him for a year, especially one in which we're not likely to be pushing for promotion. Yeah, I've been following it, probably spoke too soon. I haven't seen much of Obafemi but he has looked a good prospect and 1.5 rising to 2m looks a really good buy to me. It is a risk going for such an unproven player though, he could just as easily flop as taking the league by storm. I still maintain the Lowe deal was very poor from Swansea. He scored 14 goals for you last season and looked brilliant in certain spells. Granted his form dipped and he hasn't started this season particularly well, but I think he has a lot of good attributes and I'm sure he would have found form again after getting his confidence back - his brilliant mazy run in the last league cup game suggested he was starting to get that confidence. You should either have kept him or held out for 3-4m which seems closer to the going rate for a mid to top level championship forward. It just seems Swansea aren't good enough in getting the maximum value out of these transfers - they seem to give in very early With Roberts in his last year and given you have Laird for the season which is a more than adequate replacement, I think that was probably the right decision, but again I suspect better negotiators would have secured that little bit more from the transfer. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Aug 31, 2021 22:17:49 GMT
It's not really as simple as that, as the day and the window isn't over yet. The talk is that we're close to signing Michael Obafemi and Tariqe Fosu, and Olivier Ntcham's had a medical today. We might be strongest at centre-back, but we're playing with three this season and are going to need cover their. We need centre-backs more comfortable on the ball really, and Rhys Williams gives us that. With Jamal Lowe, he's been playing out of position upfront, I think to get the best out of him we'd need to play him out wide. Russell Martin isn't planning on playing with wingers, and Obafemi's a natural striker. He's joining for a similar fee and is significantly younger, I'm happy with that. We ideally wouldn't be selling Connor Roberts for that fee, but he's in the last year of his contract and wasn't going to sign a new one. £2.5 million is a lot of money to be turning down for him for a year, especially one in which we're not likely to be pushing for promotion. Yeah, I've been following it, probably spoke too soon. I haven't seen much of Obafemi but he has looked a good prospect and 1.5 rising to 2m looks a really good buy to me. It is a risk going for such an unproven player though, he could just as easily flop as taking the league by storm. I still maintain the Lowe deal was very poor from Swansea. He scored 14 goals for you last season and looked brilliant in certain spells. Granted his form dipped and he hasn't started this season particularly well, but I think he has a lot of good attributes and I'm sure he would have found form again after getting his confidence back - his brilliant mazy run in the last league cup game suggested he was starting to get that confidence. You should either have kept him or held out for 3-4m which seems closer to the going rate for a mid to top level championship forward. It just seems Swansea aren't good enough in getting the maximum value out of these transfers - they seem to give in very early With Roberts in his last year and given you have Laird for the season which is a more than adequate replacement, I think that was probably the right decision, but again I suspect better negotiators would have secured that little bit more from the transfer. I think it's a case of Russell Martin opting for a type of player he prefers in our side, which I fully back and I'm happy with the swap. I didn't expect Lowe to have nearly as a productive season this time out, and I think there's definitely a player in there but even with his assist in the league cup I think you'll get the best of him as a winger. I do think you're probably right in that with his goal return last season, we could have got more money for him. That being said I think Ntcham on a free is superb business, and we could have easily ended up paying more for Obafemi. I think with Roberts we're in a difficult position to negotiate with the contract situation, but yes, granted I think if there was more interest earlier in the window we'd have done better out of it. I don't think him being injured particularly helped us get the interest we needed this summer. |
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Post by underwood on Nov 21, 2021 10:24:23 GMT
Can any Swansea fans enlighten us as to the incidents at the match yesterday regarding the displaying of the Union Jack by the home fans?
I know this is nothing new at Swansea, I thought it had always been acceptable to them & has been for about 30 years, so why has it caused a stir yesterday exactly, what has prompted this reaction now?
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 21, 2021 11:52:17 GMT
Can any Swansea fans enlighten us as to the incidents at the match yesterday regarding the displaying of the Union Jack by the home fans? I know this is nothing new at Swansea, I thought it had always been acceptable to them & has been for about 30 years, so why has it caused a stir yesterday exactly, what has prompted this reaction now? Wasn't at the game yesterday but there's a photo of a Ulster Loyalist hand flag, think the Union Jack had a political statement on it too. These are not accepted, as seen at the Cardiff game when a fan removed them 20/30 mins prior to kick off. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2021 13:01:02 GMT
Nice sly dig there underwood,but all the mods are like you so you should be alright.
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Post by chief on Nov 21, 2021 14:38:13 GMT
Can any Swansea fans enlighten us as to the incidents at the match yesterday regarding the displaying of the Union Jack by the home fans? I know this is nothing new at Swansea, I thought it had always been acceptable to them & has been for about 30 years, so why has it caused a stir yesterday exactly, what has prompted this reaction now? Plain union jacks / ones saying simply 'Swansea City' on, while not the cup of tea to the majority of the fanbase have been tolerated&will continue to have to be as technically they're allowed in by stewards. The recent issue is an increasing sectarian tint&a group are now bringing Ulster flags alongside their UJs with slogans such as 'Loyal' on them. This has seen dissention amongst the support with them being taken down at games and goading on twitter suggests their appearance is now partly to antagonise the more Welsh centric support. Well yesterday the flags were removed by some fans (they were right on the front barrier facing the pitch so not seen by most of the East stand) in the second half. But this lead to the people who owned the flag who were in the lower tier holding the flags up to the upper tier while also flicking them. Which didn't go down well and caused the disorder with people going down from upper tier to lower to get at them and others throwing stuff like drinks at them and Wales chants in the upper tier. Came to a head and most of the fanbase have had enough of this small but vocal group trying to turn the club into Rangers lite. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 21, 2021 14:56:44 GMT
Nice sly dig there underwood,but all the mods are like you so you should be alright. Errr care to explain in more detail? |
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Post by underwood on Nov 21, 2021 21:27:15 GMT
Can any Swansea fans enlighten us as to the incidents at the match yesterday regarding the displaying of the Union Jack by the home fans? I know this is nothing new at Swansea, I thought it had always been acceptable to them & has been for about 30 years, so why has it caused a stir yesterday exactly, what has prompted this reaction now? Plain union jacks / ones saying simply 'Swansea City' on, while not the cup of tea to the majority of the fanbase have been tolerated&will continue to have to be as technically they're allowed in by stewards. The recent issue is an increasing sectarian tint&a group are now bringing Ulster flags alongside their UJs with slogans such as 'Loyal' on them. This has seen dissention amongst the support with them being taken down at games and goading on twitter suggests their appearance is now partly to antagonise the more Welsh centric support. Well yesterday the flags were removed by some fans (they were right on the front barrier facing the pitch so not seen by most of the East stand) in the second half. But this lead to the people who owned the flag who were in the lower tier holding the flags up to the upper tier while also flicking them. Which didn't go down well and caused the disorder with people going down from upper tier to lower to get at them and others throwing stuff like drinks at them and Wales chants in the upper tier. Came to a head and most of the fanbase have had enough of this small but vocal group trying to turn the club into Rangers lite. Thank you for explaining the situation. I am pleased that this element is being called out. They would be a complete anathema to everyone who views this forum & hopefully they can be eradicated once & for all. |
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Post by manulike on Apr 2, 2022 20:46:37 GMT
Not far off from the play offs now.
Crazier things have happened in April.
Wrexham, Newport and the Swans to all go up this season - must be worth a fiver?
Maybe throw in Wales via the play offs too ;-)
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Post by underwood on Apr 3, 2022 5:41:20 GMT
The Union Jack carrying element are still in evidence at the club I see.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 3, 2022 9:31:31 GMT
The Union Jack carrying element are still in evidence at the club I see. Weird lot. Hate Cardiff more than they like Wales. Not the majority of Swans fans though |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 3, 2022 10:33:45 GMT
The Union Jack carrying element are still in evidence at the club I see. Weird lot. Hate Cardiff more than they like Wales. Not the majority of Swans fans though Yeah not the majority, thankfully, very weird though. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 3, 2022 10:53:38 GMT
A large enough and vocal minority though. Embarrassing stain on the club.
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 3, 2022 20:22:38 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 3, 2022 20:45:23 GMT
Weird lot. Hate Cardiff more than they like Wales. Not the majority of Swans fans though Yeah not the majority, thankfully, very weird though. Yeah it’s a tiny minority and best to just ignore them. Trouble is, there are Welsh fans calling them out in it on Twitter which is exactly what they want. The whole photo was just to provoke and some are falling for it. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 3, 2022 21:56:28 GMT
It is a minority, but as of the last census 17% of the Welsh population identified as British. I certainly don't, but whilst we might be in a lovely nationalist bubble whilst supporting Wales it's a hardly a reflection on all of Welsh society (unfortunately).
If we're talking about embarrassment, then should we talk about their version of Hymnns and Arias, Gas a Jack or the anti-traveller racism? I think that's a more embarrassing stain on their club, then a minority of supporters identifying as British.
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Post by iot on Apr 3, 2022 22:34:29 GMT
It is a minority, but as of the last census 17% of the Welsh population identified as British. I certainly don't, but whilst we might be in a lovely nationalist bubble whilst supporting Wales it's a hardly a reflection on all of Welsh society (unfortunately). If we're talking about embarrassment, then should we talk about their version of Hymnns and Arias, Gas a Jack or the anti-traveller racism? I think that's a more embarrassing stain on their club, then a minority of supporters identifying as British. I think that's a misunderstanding. It's not 'identifying as British' that's the issue, it's the pathetic attempt to create a loyalist faction with far right tendencies along the lines of what we see in the rangers support. It appears to be small at the moment, but they have a base to build from and could pull in other youngsters who naively believe it's just a few swans fans who identify as British |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 3, 2022 22:42:30 GMT
It is a minority, but as of the last census 17% of the Welsh population identified as British. I certainly don't, but whilst we might be in a lovely nationalist bubble whilst supporting Wales it's a hardly a reflection on all of Welsh society (unfortunately). If we're talking about embarrassment, then should we talk about their version of Hymnns and Arias, Gas a Jack or the anti-traveller racism? I think that's a more embarrassing stain on their club, then a minority of supporters identifying as British. I think that's a misunderstanding. It's not 'identifying as British' that's the issue, it's the pathetic attempt to create a loyalist faction with far right tendencies along the lines of what we see in the rangers support. It appears to be small at the moment, but they have a base to build from and could pull in other youngsters who naively believe it's just a few swans fans who identify as British It's been about the same from my knowledge for at least the last 15 years, they aren't getting any bigger and they'll continue to get thrown out of the Liberty by our supporters. |
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 4, 2022 3:36:02 GMT
It is a minority, but as of the last census 17% of the Welsh population identified as British. I certainly don't, but whilst we might be in a lovely nationalist bubble whilst supporting Wales it's a hardly a reflection on all of Welsh society (unfortunately). If we're talking about embarrassment, then should we talk about their version of Hymnns and Arias, Gas a Jack or the anti-traveller racism? I think that's a more embarrassing stain on their club, then a minority of supporters identifying as British. It’s not as simple as them happening to identify as British though. This is a deliberately provocative action with sinister undertones. I’m sure there’s Cardiff and Wrexham fans who ‘happen to identify as British’ too but you don’t see them with Union Flags making a big thing of it. As I said earlier, best ignored by Swansea fans and everyone else.They’ll hate that more than anything. |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 4, 2022 14:57:15 GMT
It is a minority, but as of the last census 17% of the Welsh population identified as British. I certainly don't, but whilst we might be in a lovely nationalist bubble whilst supporting Wales it's a hardly a reflection on all of Welsh society (unfortunately). If we're talking about embarrassment, then should we talk about their version of Hymnns and Arias, Gas a Jack or the anti-traveller racism? I think that's a more embarrassing stain on their club, then a minority of supporters identifying as British. I think that's a misunderstanding. It's not 'identifying as British' that's the issue, it's the pathetic attempt to create a loyalist faction with far right tendencies along the lines of what we see in the rangers support. It appears to be small at the moment, but they have a base to build from and could pull in other youngsters who naively believe it's just a few swans fans who identify as British Creating? It's always been there. I used to know a complete T**t Swansea fan, who liked to think of himself as a 'bit tasty' back in the late eighties that was into Chelsea & Rangers etc. 20 years ago I was threatened by an IRA nutjob in Dublin for being a Swansea fan. |
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Post by 1983 on Apr 6, 2022 19:30:06 GMT
The Union Jack carrying element are still in evidence at the club I see. Weird lot. Hate Cardiff more than they like Wales. Not the majority of Swans fans though As a Swansea City fan for over 40 years from what I can gather it goes way back to the late 1970's early 1980's Swansea had a lot of skinheads with more than most football clubs and we all know what came with skinheads back then a lot of NF rubbish which was always on the verges, I remember Skinheads selling some NF paper outside the North bank but it just naturally died off but into the early 1990's a few of the old skinheads, casuals & ex squaddies from back then started spouting BNP rubbish and quite a few very much got into involved. As this was all starting to happen with these lads it was obvious that the FAW and the Welsh capital was starting to favour Cardiff City F.C and Cardiff as a city while Swansea City FC and Swansea as a city was getting over looked so the majority of the Union Jack thing was Swansea City fans sticking two fingers up to Cardiff and the FAW which might have been seen as funny or even edgy at one point back then but now it's as funny and as original as Welsh fans being called Sheep Sha@@ers and embarrassing and the majority of these are in their early 20's with sniff up their noses wouldn't even know why they are doing it. |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 6, 2022 19:46:10 GMT
Weird lot. Hate Cardiff more than they like Wales. Not the majority of Swans fans though As a Swansea City fan for over 40 years from what I can gather it goes way back to the late 1970's early 1980's Swansea had a lot of skinheads with more than most football clubs and we all know what came with skinheads back then a lot of NF rubbish which was always on the verges, I remember Skinheads selling some NF paper outside the North bank but it just naturally died off but into the early 1990's a few of the old skinheads, casuals & ex squaddies from back then started spouting BNP rubbish and quite a few very much got into involved. As this was all starting to happen with these lads it was obvious that the FAW and the Welsh capital was starting to favour Cardiff City F.C and Cardiff as a city while Swansea City FC and Swansea as a city was getting over looked so the majority of the Union Jack thing was Swansea City fans sticking two fingers up to Cardiff and the FAW which might have been seen as funny or even edgy at one point back then but now it's as funny and as original as Welsh fans being called Sheep Sha@@ers and embarrassing and the majority of these are in their early 20's with sniff up their noses wouldn't even know why they are doing it. Cheers for enlightening us on this, real shame that it's still going on in 2022. I have no Welsh club bias and as a Wales fan I think its healthy for us when as many Welsh clubs as possible are doing well and no Welsh club has helped the national side more than Swansea in recent years with players like Ashley Williams, Joe Allen, Neil Taylor, Ben Davies, Dan James and Joe Rodon making a name for themselves there and going on to replicate that form for Wales. I know it will never happen but it would be nice if rivalries could exist without being dragged through the dirt by a select few morons. |
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Post by chief on Apr 7, 2022 18:43:09 GMT
Weird lot. Hate Cardiff more than they like Wales. Not the majority of Swans fans though As a Swansea City fan for over 40 years from what I can gather it goes way back to the late 1970's early 1980's Swansea had a lot of skinheads with more than most football clubs and we all know what came with skinheads back then a lot of NF rubbish which was always on the verges, I remember Skinheads selling some NF paper outside the North bank but it just naturally died off but into the early 1990's a few of the old skinheads, casuals & ex squaddies from back then started spouting BNP rubbish and quite a few very much got into involved. As this was all starting to happen with these lads it was obvious that the FAW and the Welsh capital was starting to favour Cardiff City F.C and Cardiff as a city while Swansea City FC and Swansea as a city was getting over looked so the majority of the Union Jack thing was Swansea City fans sticking two fingers up to Cardiff and the FAW which might have been seen as funny or even edgy at one point back then but now it's as funny and as original as Welsh fans being called Sheep Sha@@ers and embarrassing and the majority of these are in their early 20's with sniff up their noses wouldn't even know why they are doing it. Yea agree with all this and in fairness the club in all its correspondence always promotes Welshness so it is completely independent of the club. But it is embarrassing. Even if the butcher's aprons are outnumbered 10 to 1 they still stand out. Uch a fi. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 7, 2022 19:54:44 GMT
Weird lot. Hate Cardiff more than they like Wales. Not the majority of Swans fans though As a Swansea City fan for over 40 years from what I can gather it goes way back to the late 1970's early 1980's Swansea had a lot of skinheads with more than most football clubs and we all know what came with skinheads back then a lot of NF rubbish which was always on the verges, I remember Skinheads selling some NF paper outside the North bank but it just naturally died off but into the early 1990's a few of the old skinheads, casuals & ex squaddies from back then started spouting BNP rubbish and quite a few very much got into involved. As this was all starting to happen with these lads it was obvious that the FAW and the Welsh capital was starting to favour Cardiff City F.C and Cardiff as a city while Swansea City FC and Swansea as a city was getting over looked so the majority of the Union Jack thing was Swansea City fans sticking two fingers up to Cardiff and the FAW which might have been seen as funny or even edgy at one point back then but now it's as funny and as original as Welsh fans being called Sheep Sha@@ers and embarrassing and the majority of these are in their early 20's with sniff up their noses wouldn't even know why they are doing it. Great post - diolch! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 7, 2022 19:56:52 GMT
As a Swansea City fan for over 40 years from what I can gather it goes way back to the late 1970's early 1980's Swansea had a lot of skinheads with more than most football clubs and we all know what came with skinheads back then a lot of NF rubbish which was always on the verges, I remember Skinheads selling some NF paper outside the North bank but it just naturally died off but into the early 1990's a few of the old skinheads, casuals & ex squaddies from back then started spouting BNP rubbish and quite a few very much got into involved. As this was all starting to happen with these lads it was obvious that the FAW and the Welsh capital was starting to favour Cardiff City F.C and Cardiff as a city while Swansea City FC and Swansea as a city was getting over looked so the majority of the Union Jack thing was Swansea City fans sticking two fingers up to Cardiff and the FAW which might have been seen as funny or even edgy at one point back then but now it's as funny and as original as Welsh fans being called Sheep Sha@@ers and embarrassing and the majority of these are in their early 20's with sniff up their noses wouldn't even know why they are doing it. Cheers for enlightening us on this, real shame that it's still going on in 2022. I have no Welsh club bias and as a Wales fan I think its healthy for us when as many Welsh clubs as possible are doing well and no Welsh club has helped the national side more than Swansea in recent years with players like Ashley Williams, Joe Allen, Neil Taylor, Ben Davies, Dan James and Joe Rodon making a name for themselves there and going on to replicate that form for Wales. I know it will never happen but it would be nice if rivalries could exist without being dragged through the dirt by a select few morons. As a Cardiff fan I completely agree - without the Swans, Welsh football would have been in a much worse place from 2014-2022 I consider our biggest rivals to be Bristol Rovers (edit - I meant City), and completely agree with Criag Bellamy's take on it. At least the Swans are Welsh, Bristol is our bigger rival I want to see all Welsh sides playing in England to be playing in the English top flight |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 8, 2022 13:24:01 GMT
Cheers for enlightening us on this, real shame that it's still going on in 2022. I have no Welsh club bias and as a Wales fan I think its healthy for us when as many Welsh clubs as possible are doing well and no Welsh club has helped the national side more than Swansea in recent years with players like Ashley Williams, Joe Allen, Neil Taylor, Ben Davies, Dan James and Joe Rodon making a name for themselves there and going on to replicate that form for Wales. I know it will never happen but it would be nice if rivalries could exist without being dragged through the dirt by a select few morons. As a Cardiff fan I completely agree - without the Swans, Welsh football would have been in a much worse place from 2014-2022 I consider our biggest rivals to be Bristol Rovers, and completely agree with Criag Bellamy's take on it. At least the Swans are Welsh, Bristol is our bigger rival I want to see all Welsh sides playing in England to be playing in the English top flight In what meaningful sense are they your biggest rival though? If they were your biggest rival, then why do so many more thousands of your fans attend games against us, and the crowds against Bristol City weren't any bigger when we weren't in the same division? 2021/22 - 27,280 vs Swansea, 20,891 vs Bristol City 2019/20 - 28,529 vs Swansea, 23,846 vs Bristol City When Cardiff last played Bristol Rovers at home, the attendance was just under 10,000. There's only one side that your getting close to filling your ground out for, for a derby game and that's us. If you look throughout the history of attendances between the two games, when the sides have been playing each other regularly in the same competition, Swansea-Cardiff games have always pulled bigger crowds and the attendances don't lie. Cardiff-Bristol City have sometimes pulled in big crowds themselves, after the war (Swansea-Cardiff had bigger crowds), late 50's (Swansea-Cardiff had bigger crowds), late 60's to early 70's (Swansea and Cardiff didn't play a league game). When the crowds took a dip for both clubs in the late 80's and 90's, when Cardiff and Bristol City did play each other from 88-92 the South Wales derby had bigger crowds in those years. The reaction to Steve Morison going along the lines of saying this is just another game says it all, as does the reaction to Cardiff fans to the result, and the reaction they've had to previous defeats which has led to managers going etc. |
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Post by insertname on Apr 8, 2022 14:43:00 GMT
Cheers for enlightening us on this, real shame that it's still going on in 2022. I have no Welsh club bias and as a Wales fan I think its healthy for us when as many Welsh clubs as possible are doing well and no Welsh club has helped the national side more than Swansea in recent years with players like Ashley Williams, Joe Allen, Neil Taylor, Ben Davies, Dan James and Joe Rodon making a name for themselves there and going on to replicate that form for Wales. I know it will never happen but it would be nice if rivalries could exist without being dragged through the dirt by a select few morons. As a Cardiff fan I completely agree - without the Swans, Welsh football would have been in a much worse place from 2014-2022 I consider our biggest rivals to be Bristol Rovers, and completely agree with Criag Bellamy's take on it. At least the Swans are Welsh, Bristol is our bigger rival I want to see all Welsh sides playing in England to be playing in the English top flight Im sure you mean Bristol City? If not then there is a weird triangulation going on because Bristol Rovers consider their rivals to be Bristol City but the lack of a league derby for 20+ years means Bristol City try to consider Cardiff as their rivals, so for Cardiff to see Rovers as their rivals…well you can see where I’m going…. This is one of the things I really dislike about football tribalism. Everyone is trying to consider a team from somewhere miles away as their rival as if to try and use it to slight their nearest geographical rival. Eg I daresay Swindon consider Bristol City as their rival these days despite being much closer to Bristol Rovers and Oxford in terms of league position than they are to Bristol city |
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